News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread
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Dream Carb
First Appearance: volume 90 chapter 910
A specie of carb that pride themselves on their size and strength that allows them to live in the wild waves of Wano like it's nothing. So it's possible to use them for pulling ships up a waterfall, they wish of becoming dragons one day from the bottom of their hearts.
First Appearance: volume 90 chapter 910
A specie of carb that pride themselves on their size and strength that allows them to live in the wild waves of Wano like it's nothing. So it's possible to use them for pulling ships up a waterfall, they wish of becoming dragons one day from the bottom of their hearts.
@Roronoa-sama seems like I overestimated killer only zoro true rival helmepoo will give him a great challenge.
Luffy is "multiple" times stronger in his Gear 4 than he is without it. Without it, Doffy would've mid diff him, with Gear 4 he was then able to overpower Doffy. The difference is absolutely huge. It makes no sense whatsoever to claim that Zoro missing one sword out of three is even close as much as a difference than that. Just a completely random and inconsistent comparison. Very desperate.
Wrong. He gave both nerfs, but unequal nerfs. Killer was nerfed way much more and its total ignorance to deny that. And at the end after an equal fight, after Killer then penetrated Zoro, Zoro took one of Killer's new weapons he had to fight with and defeated Killer - but due to the injury he went down as well only shortly after the victory.
Your claims of Oda trying to show us that Zoro is stronger than Killer are pure headcanon - Zoro was never shown nor teased to be any stronger than Killer is. They got portrayed as equal rivals. Only when Zoro learns how to control and intentionally use CoC, he will gain the edge.
Zoro fanboys are as desperate as Sanji fanboys. No, even more.
Sad that they dont realize how biased they sound all the time and scale only by preferences.
Wrong. He gave both nerfs, but unequal nerfs. Killer was nerfed way much more and its total ignorance to deny that. And at the end after an equal fight, after Killer then penetrated Zoro, Zoro took one of Killer's new weapons he had to fight with and defeated Killer - but due to the injury he went down as well only shortly after the victory.
Your claims of Oda trying to show us that Zoro is stronger than Killer are pure headcanon - Zoro was never shown nor teased to be any stronger than Killer is. They got portrayed as equal rivals. Only when Zoro learns how to control and intentionally use CoC, he will gain the edge.
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Zoro fanboys are as desperate as Sanji fanboys. No, even more.
Sad that they dont realize how biased they sound all the time and scale only by preferences.
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Regarding Enma
The only thing it "confirmed" was that it's a cursed blade, the part regarding haki is literally what Tengu said to him in 955, so theologically it shouldn't bring anything new to the table, the fact that the tweet saying it confirms stuff use a cutoff image where you can't see the whole thing is irritating too....
Manga line:持ち主の"流桜"を勝手に放出し必要以上に"斬る"...!!
VC line:持ち主の覇気を勝手に放出し必要以上に斬る。
The only thing it "confirmed" was that it's a cursed blade, the part regarding haki is literally what Tengu said to him in 955, so theologically it shouldn't bring anything new to the table, the fact that the tweet saying it confirms stuff use a cutoff image where you can't see the whole thing is irritating too....
Manga line:持ち主の"流桜"を勝手に放出し必要以上に"斬る"...!!
VC line:持ち主の覇気を勝手に放出し必要以上に斬る。
Yea I know its difficult for Zoro fanboys to accept the truth. 
Just like Zoro couldnt touch Killer... You realize that they fought equally for quite some time? Oda didnt show the full fight cause it would else take several chapters, but narrative wise he made it clear by zooming out, showing the trees and letting the fight be "off screened". He showed they were relative in strength, gave Killer heavier nerfs so he could easily write it the way Zoro wins at the end - and Zoro had to win story wise. But even then Oda refused to let it stand like that and thus made Zoro drop unconscious as well afterwards.
And this is the Killer Zoro fought equally with:
Physically and Mentally tortured to the extremes - his will power was broken until he reunited with his captain, he literally even executed Orochi's orders without questioning or hesitating...
And Zoro fanboys honestly try to claim that both were equally nerfed?!
Yea right, keep dreaming.
Just like Zoro couldnt touch Killer... You realize that they fought equally for quite some time? Oda didnt show the full fight cause it would else take several chapters, but narrative wise he made it clear by zooming out, showing the trees and letting the fight be "off screened". He showed they were relative in strength, gave Killer heavier nerfs so he could easily write it the way Zoro wins at the end - and Zoro had to win story wise. But even then Oda refused to let it stand like that and thus made Zoro drop unconscious as well afterwards.
And this is the Killer Zoro fought equally with:
Physically and Mentally tortured to the extremes - his will power was broken until he reunited with his captain, he literally even executed Orochi's orders without questioning or hesitating...
And Zoro fanboys honestly try to claim that both were equally nerfed?!
Yea right, keep dreaming.