News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[[No Name]]

@ScotchInformer
i will help since i know arabic.
From vivre Card of Oden:

<< What he himself called the (strongest) sword style was not a boast, it was the only one that deeply wounded Kaido! >>

This confirms Oden's swordsmanship was greater than Roger's one, but Roger was stronger than Oden, just like Shanks and Mihawk.
I dunno why people are so happy about "Ace" being a supreme grade sword, this doesn't mean anything, in fact the vivrecards just confirms what I said in my thread of Roger and Shanks. Roger uses his sword to throw haki shockwaves, NOT slashes, so how he is a swordsman? :laughmoji:i
Interesting that his haki is gold. :O

 

[Geo]

No wonder Luffy needs the magic fruit. EOS Zoro will be above Roger

 

[CbShadow]

This confirms Oden's swordsmanship was greater than Roger's one, but Roger was stronger than Oden, just like Shanks and Mihawk.
I dunno why people are so happy about "Ace" being a supreme grade sword, this doesn't mean anything, in fact the vivrecards just confirms what I said in my thread of Roger and Shanks. Roger uses his sword to throw haki shockwaves, NOT slashes, so how he is a swordsman? :laughmoji:i
Interesting that his haki is gold. :O

No, his sword style was the strongest not his swordsmanship.

Regardless Shanks is still weakening Mihawk. WSS means World',s Strongest Swordsman. Not World's Strongest sword style.

 

[RayanOO]

EOS Zoro will be above Roger

Roger > Mihawk all days

 

[Tejas]

Vista > Mihawk all days

Fixed

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Roger > Mihawk all days

Shhhh. Just let them do the work of crumbling the credibility of WGS > any sword user

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Oda didn't even remember that he named one of Roger's crew members in one of the data books. And of course he would tell people to buy his cash grab merchandise

 

[CbShadow]

Mihawk>Roger.

Based on this new information it's no wonder Oda didn't have Mihawk fight seriously during Marineford. I'm pretty confident now that Mihawk during that battle was fighting at a low level.

 

[Kuröwon]

Roger Card:

Before 77: Born in Loguetown.
Before 52: Famous as one of the Rookies.
Before 39: Arrive at Lodestar Island.
Before 38: Destroy Rocks Pirate with Garp in God Valley
Before 28: Got a terminal disease
Before 26: Fight against Whitebeard Pirates and invite Oden to join his crew
Before 25: Conquer the GrandLine and became King of the Pirate
Before 24: surrendered himself to the World Government and executed in Loguetown.

I don't understand why Vivre Card doesn't clearly say that Roger is born around 1450s.

 

[[No Name]]

No, his sword style was the strongest not his swordsmanship.

Regardless Shanks is still weakening Mihawk. WSS means World',s Strongest Swordsman. Not World's Strongest sword style.

Roger doesn't use sword slashes.
He throws shockwaves.
Just like Luffy with his sandals.

He uses the sword in the same way, while Zoro and Oden uses CoC in a different way, they do cutting slashes, they don't do shockwaves.
Roger's not a swordsman.

 

[Extravlad]

Need Whitebeard's VC

 

[CbShadow]

Roger doesn't use sword slashes.
He throws shockwaves.
Just like Luffy with his sandals.

He uses the sword in the same way, while Zoro and Oden uses CoC in a different way, they do cutting slashes, they don't do shockwaves.
Roger's not a swordsman.

A strong and skilled swordsman can choose to cut or not cut.

 

[сука]

Mihawk>Roger.

Based on this new information it's no wonder Oda didn't have Mihawk fight seriously during Marineford. I'm pretty confident now that Mihawk during that battle was fighting at a low level.

Also my theory that Roger turned himself in to avoid fighting little Mihawk is looking more plausible

 

[[No Name]]

A strong and skilled swordsman can choose to cut or not cut.

Roger doesn't choose, he simply doesn't know swordsmanahip, so he uses his sword to throw haki shockwaves.

 

[God Buggy]

Mihawk>Roger.

Based on this new information it's no wonder Oda didn't have Mihawk fight seriously during Marineford. I'm pretty confident now that Mihawk during that battle was fighting at a low level.

Regardless of Mihawk and Roger, it's clear that Mihawk was superior to that version of WB (MF). The guy couldn't stay with an admiral in a frontal fight for more than a brief period of time before getting an heart attack and being saved by plot otherwise Akainu would have already killed him there.

 

[CbShadow]

Roger doesn't choose, he simply doesn't know swordsmanahip, so he uses his sword to throw haki shockwaves.

You're joking right. The mangas already told us that it's easier to cut everything than to cut nothing. The later requires more skill.

People create the craziest excuses the claim he's not a swordsman.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Roger is a wizard who waves around a sword like a wand apparently

There was me hoping Zoro being a confirmed CoC using swordsman would kill this pure swordsman nonsense for good

 

[nik87]

Ace(sword) failed to become a Kokuto.
Ace(son) failed to become Pirate King.
Roja should have chosen a stronger name.

Current Zoro and Mihawk are both above Roger.
Roger is not the focus of the manga, Zoro is.
And the man to face Zoro is Mihawk, not Roger.
Anti-Zolo Pirates are always in a lose-lose situation.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Roger doesn't use sword slashes.
He throws shockwaves.
Just like Luffy with his sandals.

He uses the sword in the same way, while Zoro and Oden uses CoC in a different way, they do cutting slashes, they don't do shockwaves.
Roger's not a swordsman.

you are going to wager this on zori not coating his attacks with coc ever ?
lol
goal post shifted
wonder what comes after that.
maybe the color of the haki

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Need Whitebeard's VC

need xebec's vc

 

[God Buggy]

Current Zoro above Roger.

What made you choose the Zoro wank path, Nik? How did it all start?

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need xebec's vc

I want more info on the goatmirals