News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[DarkWitch]

Black Maria who claims to be a martial artist but doesn't know COA?

What if the vivre card does confirm that Black Maria has CoA, it would then bring the question of why she didn't use it.

 

[Rednick]

Even without us knowing her Bounty, the fact that she is a high ranking member, a SC, would be proof enough to know she is strong. Which is simple potrayal. Oven and Daifuku were mentioned together with the SC's, Perospero and Compote to be Monsters. They were clearly potrayed above anybody else not mentioned. Tamago and Pekoms were not. Which you wanted to put even above Oven and Daifuku.
Even tho Pedro defeated Tamago 2-3 times, while he got overwhelmed by both Oven and Perospero easily.
Then let me ask you what did Perosero did to justify his 700mil. bounty? He didn't do anything either, but overhelm Pedro like Oven did - yet you don't seem to have a problem with Perospero having a 700mil. bounty but you don't see Oven and Daifuku having bounties more than 300mil.

Oh come on, pero is much more competent than oven and daifuku and he proved it in onigashima. Pero clashed with luffy, pedro, carrot and the fox mink, marco and so many others. His impact is much bigger than the other two. Why would i have a problem with him having a 700m bounty. He is pretty decent.
Defeating tamago 2-3 times doesnt mean much since he can reborn. You must overpower him in his final form, only then you can completely defeat him.
Ok in potential 1v1 who would you choose?
Tamago vs oven/daifuku
Cracker vs oven/daifuku
Smoothie vs oven/daifuku
Katakuri vs oven/daifuku
Who s who vs Oven/daifuku
Sasaki vs oven/daifuku

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

What if the vivre card does confirm that Black Maria has CoA, it would then bring the question of why she didn't use it.

This going to happen for 100%,I mean even Ulti pose both haki typ and at least Pageone had CoO, but hell the strongest two other didn´t show any haki? That was dumb as hell, as @Wiwi said, BM claims himself as martial artist fighter and yet not use any CoA attacks, that was dumb asf if she get CoA in vivrecard but didn´t use it.
Forget Black Maria, after WsW literally use CoA in anything, I had I hopes for Sasaki to use it too but error, nothing, not a single haki feat...

 

[Jailer]

What if the vivre card does confirm that Black Maria has CoA, it would then bring the question of why she didn't use it.

Oda being Oda, Trebol and Diamante are confirmed to have both CoO and CoA and yet....

 

[Law-sama]

Wano is hype but too many plot convenience and bad writings

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I would say the haki stuff is PIS but funnily this didn't stop Oda from having Ulti going hybrid + COA against weaklings

 

[Midnight Delight]

I would say the haki stuff is PIS but funnily this didn't stop Oda from having Ulti going hybrid + COA against weaklings

Ulti didn't use Haki against Nami or Usop

Oda only draws Haki struggle between Haki users

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Ulti didn't use Haki against Nami or Usop

Oda only draws Haki struggle between Haki users

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I would say the haki stuff is PIS but funnily this didn't stop Oda from having Ulti going hybrid + COA against weaklings

i like the idea that Oda doesn’t draw the black hardening unless someone with CoO who can see haki is there even if it’s being used

 

[Jailer]

Ulti didn't use Haki against Nami or Usop

Oda only draws Haki struggle between Haki users

We will never know if he did use it on them or not.

 

[ankama]

Oda being Oda, Trebol and Diamante are confirmed to have both CoO and CoA and yet....

At least they had a fair fight. Since their opponents Kyros and Law also owned CoA and CoO, but did not use it against them in battle.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Oda being Oda, Trebol and Diamante are confirmed to have both CoO and CoA and yet....

Diamante as example, had CoA but didn´t use it to coat his sword in hardening, I can understand that Trebol was more about his df power, but fucking Diamante as Gladitor champs didn´t use haki for his close combat skills?

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Imagine Sasaki and Black Maria are listed to have armement haki

Boo had coa

 

[Jailer]

Well thanks for confirming lol.

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At least they had a fair fight. Since their opponents Kyros and Law also owned CoA and CoO, but did not use it against them in battle.

Hmmm not too sure on that one

 

[Midnight Delight]

Diamante as example, had CoA but didn´t use it to coat his sword in hardening, I can understand that Trebol was more about his df power, but fucking Diamante as Gladitor champs didn´t use haki for his close combat skills?

Didn't Kyros blitz him?
He was laughing and acting cocky so he seemed to have gotten caught off guard when Kyros broke his sword

 

[DarkWitch]

If Franky's lasers can hurt Sasaki that badly then just imagine if he fought Queen.

I do think the whole belly being the weak spot was kind of dumb.

 

[Yasuda]

Jinbei basically 1 taps WsW through a punch to the face is kinda dumb....
At least Franky blew though Sasaki's belly

Fishman Karate sends a shockwave through the water in the targets body. He basically rattled Who's Who's brain. I'd say that's a pretty devastating attack.

 

[Law-sama]

If Franky's lasers can hurt Sasaki that badly then just imagine if he fought Queen.

I do think the whole belly being the weak spot was kind of dumb.

His weak spot should be his testicles

 

[Jailer]

If Franky's lasers can hurt Sasaki that badly then just imagine if he fought Queen.

I do think the whole belly being the weak spot was kind of dumb.

I think it was because of the wound being inflicted with the light sword earlier not that Sasaki's weakness is actually that.

Franky simply used the wound he created to his advantage and beat him that way

 

[Hiragaro]

Oh come on, pero is much more competent than oven and daifuku and he proved it in onigashima. Pero clashed with luffy, pedro, carrot and the fox mink, marco and so many others. His impact is much bigger than the other two. Why would i have a problem with him having a 700m bounty. He is pretty decent.

We are talking about WCI. You can't bring up things that happened in the Onigashima Arc, where only Perospero is involved. Ofc Perospero is gonna have more feats in Onigashima, because Oven and Daifuku are not there lol.

Defeating tamago 2-3 times doesnt mean much since he can reborn. You must overpower him in his final form, only then you can completely defeat him.

With every reborn he gets stronger, yet even his penultimate form was defeated easily by Pedro. You think his final form would be THAT much stronger?
I remind you again, Perospero and Oven EASILY overwhelmed Pedro. They Barely even did anything. You think Final Form Tamago would jump to that level or even above where he EASILY overwhelms Pedro? Yeah, nah.