Future Events One Piece will not end before the 1400 chapters. Change my mind.

[Rackham]

These are some points the plot still has to solve, suggested by @Akai2

Spoiler

• Imu’s true identity and goals.
• The giant strawhat / the hidden treasure in Marejois and its connection to Law’s devil fruit.
• Vegapunk’s indentity/history and his new SSG creation.
• The fate of the former warlords, especially Weevil, Hancock and Mihawk.
• Kuma’s history with Bonney.
• Aokiji’s true goal and his alliance with Blackbeard.
• The Rocks pirates’ history and the God Valley Incident.
• Shanks’ conversation with the Gorosei and his overall character arc.
• Void century story.
• The three eyed clan and their ability to read poneglyphs.
• Voice of all things explanation (Luffy, Momo, Roger, etc…)
• Joy Boy identity and the meaning of the Will of D.
• The fate of the 3 ancient weapons.
• Luffy destroying Fishman Island and the fate of the Noah.
• Vegapunk explaining devil fruit origins and how Blackbeard is able to use two devil fruits.
• What happened to Sabo, Vivi and King Cobra?
• Dragon’s war with the celestial Dragons.
• Greenbull’s identity.
• Coby’s journey towards becoming an admiral and the goal of Sword.
• Kaido’s individual backstory and the reason he’s suicidal.
• Denjiro’s identity. Lady Toki's story.
• The incident the Strawhat grand fleet will cause.
• Prince Loki’s story and the whole Elbaph arc.
• Enel’s return and the connection of the moon race to the void century.
• King’s race and the three races Big Mom is missing from her island.
• Katakuri’s fate and if he’ll meet Luffy again.
• Last road ponelyph’s location and finding Laugh Tale.
• Identity of Thriller Barks monsters.
• Luffy finding the One Piece and fighting Blackbeard.
• Zoro beating Mihawk and becoming the WGS.
• Nami finishing the map of the world.
• Usopp becoming a brave warrior of the sea.
• Sanji finding the All Blue and re-uniting with Pudding.
• Chopper creating the ultimate cure.
• Robin discovering the true history.
• Franky guiding the Sunny go to the finish line.
• Brook meeting Laboon.
• Jinbei and the Vinsmoke’s fate.
• Law, Kidd, Uroge, Hawkins, Drake, etc… stories and fates.

 

[Owl Ki]

One Piece will end...

Spoiler

When it ends.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Considering Oda's current pace, I can see it lol. Hes been dealing with the same 2 Yonko since Punk Hazard, nearly 350 chapters worth of plot. He has like 5x the amount of characters, plotwork and important storylines to still cover in this series after Wano, whenever it even ends....

I don't even think the final war is next. Elbaf is proof of that. Vegapunk's storyline with Kuma/Bonney/Sabo is also evident of that. Unsolved mysteries like the Silver medalists escaping Impel Down or the Undeworld or now even Rocks are things that continue to linger.

 

[Rackham]

Considering Oda's current pace, I can see it lol. Hes been dealing with the same 2 Yonko since Punk Hazard, nearly 350 chapters worth of plot. He has like 5x the amount of characters, plotwork and important storylines to still cover in this series after Wano, whenever it even ends....

I don't even think the final war is next. Elbaf is proof of that. Vegapunk's storyline with Kuma/Bonney/Sabo is also evident of that. Unsolved mysteries like the Silver medalists escaping Impel Down or the Undeworld or now even Rocks are things that continue to linger.

I agree
Imo after the end of this war (in which should fall 2 Yonkos, but is still not clear) we'll be like 2/3 of the full story, something more or something less

 

[Finalbeta]

I think the statement about 2024 is too far fetched but if men that actually are very near Oda made a prevision it has to be take into consideration.

But 2024 is 4 years ahead, roughly 170 chapters in the best of cases.

170 chapters is enough to end Wano, Elbaf and start the Great War. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[Rackham]

So leaving the end of the war, the epilogue and before that Laught Tale, Lodestar, Blackbeard, Shanks, Vegapunk, Void century and a shit ton of things.
I really can't see One Piece ending before 7 years from now

 

[Finalbeta]

So leaving the end of the war, the epilogue and before that Laught Tale, Lodestar, Blackbeard, Shanks, Vegapunk, Void century and a shit ton of things.
I really can't see One Piece ending before 7 years from now

It's very far out to conceive and end happening before at least chapter 1300 is hit in my opinion.

 

[Lionheart]

This is my bet:

End of wano arc will happen around chapter 1030
Vegapunk arc ~ 25 chapters
Elbaf arc ~ 50 chapters
Lodestar (Shanks?) ~ 20 chapters
God Valley (Blackbeard fight) ~ 50 chapters
Laugh Tale (Big Flashback) ~ 25 chapters
Preparation for the final war (showing all the allies, etc) ~ 10 chapters
War with Marines ~ 40 chapters
War with Im and WG ~ 45 chapters
Epilogue ~ 5 chapters

Total of chapters ~ 1300
So, one piece will end probably in 2028 or 2029, considering the breaks

 

[Formerly Seth]

Who cares.

We will get the WG arc and introduce Imu's son 80 chapters deep.

 

[kom5]

we are just at phase 3 so 4 and 5 are ahead and then Im-sama and Blackbearda are present
I can see easily 300 chapters from here on

 

[Finalbeta]

I wonder why stating 85% complete.

I doubt Oda's strict acquaintances are bad with maths.

Cause if it will be 1300, the proper definition should of been 70% at the time.

 

[Kurozumi D. Trussop]

This is my bet:

End of wano arc will happen around chapter 1030
Vegapunk arc ~ 25 chapters
Elbaf arc ~ 50 chapters
Lodestar (Shanks?) ~ 20 chapters
God Valley (Blackbeard fight) ~ 50 chapters
Laugh Tale (Big Flashback) ~ 25 chapters
Preparation for the final war (showing all the allies, etc) ~ 10 chapters
War with Marines ~ 40 chapters
War with Im and WG ~ 45 chapters
Epilogue ~ 5 chapters

Total of chapters ~ 1300
So, one piece will end probably in 2028 or 2029, considering the breaks

I feel like we still have another year of Wano left.

 

[Lionheart]

I feel like we still have another year of Wano left.

Yeah. I think we will see another arc only in the beginning of 2022 if the series continues with these breaks. Maybe in the end of 2021

 

[Akai2]

I'm the guy that's always laughing at "One piece will end in 5 years" headlines, but I think 1400 is pushing it. I see 350ish more chapters.

For reference I made this thread a year ago collecting the ridiculous amount of unresolved plot points, just a few have been addressed but about 50 more introduced lol

Since the “One Piece is ending in 5 years” headlines are making the rounds around here, I thought it’d be good to start this thread.

I’m obviously at worst skeptical of such claim and at best 100% certain of its inevitable inaccuracy. Oda had given numerical estimates many times previously, and is almost always off the mark.

I’m sure he HOPES to end One Piece in 5 years due to the pressure of keeping up with such a gigantic franchise, but looking at how dense the upcoming stories would need to be to conclude every unresolved plot line, it’s just not possible to do so within 200 chapters.

By analyzing how Oda chooses to write his story and which elements he chooses to focus on in his narrative (I won’t breakdown that here because it’d be too long), his perfectionist self will not allow him to cut corners on resolving the upcoming plot lines.

If he truly believes he will end the series in 5 years, he will swiftly realize how unrealistic that is once he actually starts drawing week to week in the upcoming arcs. That is of course unless he suddenly decides that he doesn’t care about his story anymore and starts cutting corners, which I sincerely doubt will happen.

Anyway, I thought I’d make a list of the unresolved mysteries/plot threads/character goals to further show how unrealistic it’d be to cover all of it in 200 chapters. My best estimate would be around 350 more chapters, which corresponds to 8-9 more years.

Spoiler: LOOONG LIST....CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK

• Imu’s true identity and goals.
• The giant strawhat / the hidden treasure in Marejois and its connection to Law’s devil fruit.
• Vegapunk’s indentity/history and his new SSG creation.
• The fate of the former warlords, especially Weevil, Hancock and Mihawk.
• Kuma’s history with Bonney.
• Aokiji’s true goal and his alliance with Blackbeard.
• The Rocks pirates’ history and the God Valley Incident.
• Shanks’ conversation with the Gorosei and his overall character arc.
• Void century story.
• The three eyed clan and their ability to read poneglyphs.
• Voice of all things explanation (Luffy, Momo, Roger, etc…)
• Joy Boy identity and the meaning of the Will of D.
• The fate of the 3 ancient weapons.
• Luffy destroying Fishman Island and the fate of the Noah.
• Vegapunk explaining devil fruit origins and how Blackbeard is able to use two devil fruits.
• What happened to Sabo, Vivi and King Cobra?
• Dragon’s war with the celestial Dragons.
• Greenbull’s identity.
• Coby’s journey towards becoming an admiral and the goal of Sword.
• Kaido’s individual backstory and the reason he’s suicidal.
• Denjiro’s identity. Lady Toki's story.
• The incident the Strawhat grand fleet will cause.
• Prince Loki’s story and the whole Elbaph arc.
• Enel’s return and the connection of the moon race to the void century.
• King’s race and the three races Big Mom is missing from her island.
• Katakuri’s fate and if he’ll meet Luffy again.
• Last road ponelyph’s location and finding Laugh Tale.
• Identity of Thriller Barks monsters.
• Luffy finding the One Piece and fighting Blackbeard.
• Zoro beating Mihawk and becoming the WGS.
• Nami finishing the map of the world.
• Usopp becoming a brave warrior of the sea.
• Sanji finding the All Blue and re-uniting with Pudding.
• Chopper creating the ultimate cure.
• Robin discovering the true history.
• Franky guiding the Sunny go to the finish line.
• Brook meeting Laboon.
• Jinbei and the Vinsmoke’s fate.
• Law, Kidd, Uroge, Hawkins, Drake, etc… stories and fates.

Also keep in mind that Oda will still introduce new mysteries and characters as we go to new islands after Wano

Let me know what to add to the list because I’m certain I missed some unresolved plot lines

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think the statement about 2024 is too far fetched but if men that actually are very near Oda made a prevision it has to be take into consideration.

But 2024 is 4 years ahead, roughly 170 chapters in the best of cases.

170 chapters is enough to end Wano, Elbaf and start the Great War. Nothing more nothing less.

Potentially, and thats only assuming we even get to Laugh tale or skip sailing to the end of Grand Line, etc. Or even if Oda just decides to drop additional concepts we never knew before.

People should be taking Wano as a prime example. 88 chapters in and the main battles virtually haven't started yet. And Wano itself doesn't resolve the myriad of even bigger plotlines left

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I wonder why stating 85% complete.

I doubt Oda's strict acquaintances are bad with maths.

Cause if it will be 1300, the proper definition should of been 70% at the time.

Because its not by pure chapter volume. Storyline wise, we could be at 95% and still spend 200 chapters in the final war, it still could just be the most important 5% in the series.

My honest guess is the percent progress is actually a measure of Luffy's Journey, not to the ending. I.e., we are 80% to laugh tale, but then the final war is a huge swath of additional story after he becomes PK.

There are some things that do support this. Oda has called the 87 chapter span of the Paramount War (513- 600) to be a "side-plot" because it doesn't actually "progress" Luffys journey to Laugh Tale. Hes also stated in the last SBS, in a cheeky manner that "Luffy's journey" will come to an end, but did not answer the question on if the "manga will end", so take what you will from that.



Imo, I think we are still a ways away from Laugh Tale. Completing will signify 85% or 90% of Luffy's physical journey, followed by a few more arcs (Vegapunk/Elbaf/Lodestart/Whatever) before we hit 100% at Laugh Tale. In order to know what the protagonist are fighting about, they must find out everythiing virtually before the final war. It is what will make the world government or whomever else even more heinous. THEN the Final War begins.

Id say 1200-1250 we get to this point knowing Oda's pace (Wano isn't even ending until 1050+ probably and we still at the worst have Elbaf left, but have plenty of other storylines to address), then the remainder of the series is just the wars that ensue. I think we are still 6-8 years away from even seeing said war begin to involve Luffy (maybe it starts soon around the world, but not with the main characters), especially since we need downtime from Wano's own war to build back up to a climax (remember, it took 200+ chapters to build up this war with Kaido, it may take the same to build up the war with the WG).

 

[Jackteo]

Imo it's absurd to end the story in less than 300 chapters. Thus 8 years more or less. Wano is going to last at least for the entire 2021, I'd say it's going to end by chapter 1050.
Then they still have to find the fourth RPG and i doubt the guy who made this face at the idea of stealing the RPGs from Kaido and BM without any fight is going to accept a gift from Dragon /Shanks/... . It would also be very anticlimactic. The obvious location for the 4th RPG is Elbaf but it's not certain. There are two possible paths:
1- the classic one: Elbaf (4th RPG) --> Raftel (Blackbeard) --> Final war
2- the weird one: Elbaf (no RPG, Shanks informs Luffy of the 4th RPG location and that is Marijoa) --> Marijoa (Blackbeard, Dragon, Katakuri, Yamato and other intervene and helps Luffy. The Marines gets defeated. The strawhats meet Vegapunk. Strawhats vs BB over the 4th RPG ) --> Raftel (Luffy, Zoro and Sanji vs Shanks, Mihawk and Ben Beckman) --> the world vs the WG

 

[Paperchampion23]

I'm the guy that's always laughing at "One piece will end in 5 years" headlines, but I think 1400 is pushing it. I see 350ish more chapters.

For reference I made this thread a year ago collecting the ridiculous amount of unresolved plot points, just a few have been addressed but about 50 more introduced lol

I think it all depends on Oda's pacing. He 100% can address all of those points, but knowing how much he likes to characterize everything, it just takes longer than anticipated always. Wano is moving fast imo, and even here we are 90 chapters deep with no end in site, and I specifically remember people acting like Wano would end in 80 chapters and we'd move on cause "Oda's gonna rush now".

When it all comes down to it, the closer he gets to the ending and final war, the more likely he continues to make the war and plot around it longer and more detailed. Just based on Oda's habits, if the following arcs exist, I expect them to be this long:

- Wano: 909-1050ish
- Vegapunk: 1050-1120ish
- Elbaf: 1120-1200ish
- Lodestar: 1200-1220-ish
- Road to Laugh Tale/Laugh Tale: 1220-1270ish
- Final War: 1270-1370ish
- God Valley/End/Epilogue: 1370-1450ish

I know this sounds extreme, but virtually every time I feel an arc is going to be shorter, Oda makes it way longer than I expect. I also expect Vegapunk/Elbaf to be hefty plotlines/arcs, that while not as big as Wano, will be relatively WCI sized to cover some big plot movements in setting up the final war. I also inherently think Bonney and Urogue need their arc focus just like the other Supernova have gotten, and their plotlines seen largely unrelated. One is related to Kuma/Vegapunk and the other to potentially the "world" or sky islands (his goals are entirely unknown), which leads me to believe Elbaf due to its massive tree and potentially world enlightening plotline. I also have my reasons for putting God Valley last.


Its scary that I almost feel like he could even surpass that number....

 

[Finalbeta]

Vegapunk arc will never be so exhaustive and time taking. It shall be smaller than most we have come around since the post ts, we better don't expect a significant time spent on it.

Expecially many dozens of chapters, that's 1 year and half in real time economy.

 

[Akai2]

I think it all depends on Oda's pacing. He 100% can address all of those points, but knowing how much he likes to characterize everything, it just takes longer than anticipated always. Wano is moving fast imo, and even here we are 90 chapters deep with no end in site, and I specifically remember people acting like Wano would end in 80 chapters and we'd move on cause "Oda's gonna rush now".

When it all comes down to it, the closer he gets to the ending and final war, the more likely he continues to make the war and plot around it longer and more detailed. Just based on Oda's habits, if the following arcs exist, I expect them to be this long:

- Wano: 909-1050ish
- Vegapunk: 1050-1120ish
- Elbaf: 1120-1200ish
- Lodestar: 1200-1220-ish
- Road to Laugh Tale/Laugh Tale: 1220-1270ish
- Final War: 1270-1370ish
- God Valley/End/Epilogue: 1370-1450ish

I know this sounds extreme, but virtually every time I feel an arc is going to be shorter, Oda makes it way longer than I expect. I also expect Vegapunk/Elbaf to be hefty plotlines/arcs, that while not as big as Wano, will be relatively WCI sized to cover some big plot movements in setting up the final war. I also inherently think Bonney and Urogue need their arc focus just like the other Supernova have gotten, and their plotlines seen largely unrelated. One is related to Kuma/Vegapunk and the other to potentially the "world" or sky islands (his goals are entirely unknown), which leads me to believe Elbaf due to its massive tree and potentially world enlightening plotline. I also have my reasons for putting God Valley last.


Its scary that I almost feel like he could even surpass that number....

I honestly can't see Vegapunk having a 70 chapter arc. I think his story will be interwoven with regular arcs.

The only way it goes over 1400 is if the epilogue is ever bigger than I expect. And I expect OP to have a really long epilogue.

But I agree with Oda's tendency to stretch certain plot lines. He's been moving at a pretty fast pace like u said given how many plot lines are being juggled, but we'll see. I still think 400 more chapters is a stretch.

Inb4 Oda introduces Enel in chapter 1000 and foreshadows a moon arc that'll take my prediction to beyond 1500

 

[Paperchampion23]

Vegapunk arc will never be so exhaustive and time taking. It shall be smaller than most we have come around since the post ts, we better don't expect a significant time spent on it.

Expecially many dozens of chapters, that's 1 year and half in real time economy.

I personally doubt that.

- Kuma
- Bonney
- Sabo and his commanders
- SSG
- Caesar
- Judge/Germa
- Smoker/Tashigi


May all be very well tied to that plotlone with Vegapunk and considering how uncharacteristic it would be for Oda to not set up this stuff before the final war would be honestly surprising.

Its not like he cares about real time economy with Wano, we are in year 3 already of the arc. Actually, we are almost halfway through year 3 already (Wano started July 2018). Don't be surprised if he spent an additional 4-5 years on Vegapunk or Elbaf or anything else thats not Laugh Tale/Final War