Basically confirmed what I said in my first response (where the hate stems from). The issue is quality writing vs garbage writing. Law and Doffy in Dressrosa is an example of great writing. Yamato, Scabbards, Oden in Wano are an example of abysmal writing.
Moments that are widely considered shining spots of wano
-Zoro seppuku knife killing magistrate
-Zoro taming Enma
-Zoro one shotting Apoo
-Zoro blocking Hakai
-Zoro King of Hell
-Zoro Ashura
-Zoro making Kaido and Big Mom shit their pants at the same time
Its not just Zoro fans, majority of One Piece fans love these moments
Most fans hate Oden trash Yamato and Mom's bullshit scabbards etc.
If Zoro is constantly giving popular and well received momemts he should be featured more
Basically confirmed what I said in my first response (where the hate stems from). The issue is quality writing vs garbage writing. Law and Doffy in Dressrosa is an example of great writing. Yamato, Scabbards, Oden in Wano are an example of abysmal writing.
Moments that are widely considered shining spots of wano
-Zoro seppuku knife killing magistrate
-Zoro taming Enma
-Zoro one shotting Apoo
-Zoro blocking Hakai
-Zoro King of Hell
-Zoro Ashura
-Zoro making Kaido and Big Mom shit their pants at the same time
Its not just Zoro fans, majority of One Piece fans love these moments
Most fans hate Oden trash Yamato and Mom's bullshit scabbards etc.
If Zoro is constantly giving popular and well received momemts he should be featured more
Oda has no interest in making anyone but Luffy be the center of attention, that's the reality. He'll throw other characters the bone but when it's time to finish things off he will shit on everything for Luffy embellishment. He'll bend over backwards to give Luffy his moment even at the cost of good writing. It was more acceptable pre skip, but now with no focus on the Strawhats it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Oda has no interest in making anyone but Luffy be the center of attention, that's the reality. He'll throw other characters the bone but when it's time to finish things off he will shit on everything for Luffy embellishment. He'll bend over backwards to give Luffy his moment even at the cost of good writing. It was more acceptable pre skip, but now with no focus on the Strawhats it sticks out like a sore thumb.
And it looks like I hit the nail right on the head lmfao when I said most of the hate stems from stealing shine. Which is why the few people who hate on Law don't bother me.
Duh, its the story of strawhat crew. Oda should have created a Law spin off for you guys who cheers his stupid tsundere shit. I can guarantee you the story will get better now that Kidd and Law (and Big Mom) are out.
Duh, its the story of strawhat crew. Oda should have created a Law spin off for you guys who cheers his stupid tsundere shit. I can guarantee you the story will get better now that Kidd and Law (and Big Mom) are out.
Lol you are not wrong. I am not saying Law is less interesting than Chopper or Franky. But the storytelling aspect suffered because the other strawhats haven't got enough panel time. Imagine if its possible for Oda to create the Usopp-Luffy fight at Ennis Lobby with Law also traveling with the crew. Without that fight, we dont get Zoro's epic speech about captain's respect. Those small interactions between the crewmates always lead to greater things pre-ts.
Btw I think Zoro's plot will get more focus in the future as we have got nothing about his parents in Wano. Its also suspicious how Mihawk got no mentions either.
Duh, its the story of strawhat crew. Oda should have created a Law spin off for you guys who cheers his stupid tsundere shit. I can guarantee you the story will get better now that Kidd and Law (and Big Mom) are out.
I am tryna think who is left.
Are all the shit characters out of the way?
We have players like Admirals, Shanks, Dragon, Sabo, Mihawk, Gorosei, Imu etc left and if Oda is going to expand upon these characters then there is only so bad the story can be.
Among the top tiers the least interesting and the most boring ones were Kaido and Big Mom and they are out of the way.
We have Blackbeard Pirates, Cross Guild, Marines, World Government, Will of D, Joy Boy etc left to explore.
So the potential is pretty high.
But its Oda so who knows.
We might get some Wano level garbage in Elbaf tho
Duh, its the story of strawhat crew. Oda should have created a Law spin off for you guys who cheers his stupid tsundere shit. I can guarantee you the story will get better now that Kidd and Law (and Big Mom) are out.
Not true, People dislike Kidd because his achievement to ego ratio is small. I can bet if Kidd soloed Big Mom, his popularity would have shot up.
I think Oda should make Law an official strawhat or the first division captain of the Grandfleet or something. Now his relevance to the plot is not organic. Did you honestly like his "we are enemy" bs or him jumping off the waterfall?
Not true, People dislike Kidd because his achievement to ego ratio is small. I can bet if Kidd soloed Big Mom, his popularity would have shot up.
I think Oda should make Law an official strawhat or the first division captain of the Grandfleet or something. Now his relevance to the plot is not organic. Did you honestly like his "we are enemy" bs or him jumping off the waterfall?
tsun tsun sounds terrible. Guess I am not a proper weeb.
Used to be real hyped for Kidd going into Wano. Pre timeskip he seemed like a ruthless Luffy with a cooler devil fruit but lamer crew (give and take, can't have it all). The fact he had his own Supernova alliance was pretty neat, even if it was filled with the rejects of that generation. He was basically matching Luffy every step of his way until post-Dressrosa.
But in Wano he barely got any panel time, his character wasn't explored after Queen almost murked him in Udon, we know nearly as much about Kidd now as we did in our first sojourn into Sabaody. That really bothers me because he's now a wasted concept.
What really annoys me is how Oda leans heavily into statements instead of actions to bump Kidd up. In combat he does nothing visually interesting or technically cool but is grouped alongside Law and his monster attacks against Linlin, even given equal credit for taking her down when we all know it was far from 50/50 there.
Then he gets a totally undeserved bounty of 3B, matching Luffy's to keep this ridiculous idea that they're rivals despite Oda not having shown that Kidd is beyond Luffy two power ups ago.
So his character is irritating and uninteresting because Oda's consistently decided to verbalize accomplishments for him instead of doing the footwork like he did with Law. Killer's worse but in all honesty, I don't care about Killer, no one else does either. He was always a cheap copy of Zoro so Killer being a nothing character doesn't impact me as much. Kidd not living up to his hype but being given greater hype is a certified buggy moment for him.
Used to be real hyped for Kidd going into Wano. Pre timeskip he seemed like a ruthless Luffy with a cooler devil fruit but lamer crew (give and take, can't have it all). The fact he had his own Supernova alliance was pretty neat, even if it was filled with the rejects of that generation. He was basically matching Luffy every step of his way until post-Dressrosa.
But in Wano he barely got any panel time, his character wasn't explored after Queen almost murked him in Udon, we know nearly as much about Kidd now as we did in our first sojourn into Sabaody. That really bothers me because he's now a wasted concept.
What really annoys me is how Oda leans heavily into statements instead of actions to bump Kidd up. In combat he does nothing visually interesting or technically cool but is grouped alongside Law and his monster attacks against Linlin, even given equal credit for taking her down when we all know it was far from 50/50 there.
Then he gets a totally undeserved bounty of 3B, matching Luffy's to keep this ridiculous idea that they're rivals despite Oda not having shown that Kidd is beyond Luffy two power ups ago.
So his character is irritating and uninteresting because Oda's consistently decided to verbalize accomplishments for him instead of doing the footwork like he did with Law. Killer's worse but in all honesty, I don't care about Killer, no one else does either. He was always a cheap copy of Zoro so Killer being a nothing character doesn't impact me as much. Kidd not living up to his hype but being given greater hype is a certified buggy moment for him.
Man Kidd's design pre timeskip was pretty cool. The more slender build and less awkwardly shaped head goes a long way.
Are the Kidd fans actually serious when saying Kidd is Luffy's equal or anywhere in power? I think the arc made it quite clear that Luffy is leagues ahead.
Filler just because i need to choose one, but i did like everybody on the rooftop.
Are the Kidd fans actually serious when saying Kidd is Luffy's equal or anywhere in power? I think the arc made it quite clear that Luffy is leagues ahead.
Filler just because i need to choose one, but i did like everybody on the rooftop.
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