Fanclub Paleo Posting.

[Owl Ki]

Any possibility of big elephants/indricotheres/astrapotheres etc in PP S2? In the wake of sauropods getting more love, some of the big Cenozoic critters should get some attention too.

I'd also love to see some of the scarier mammalian predators like Megistotherium, Amphicyon etc.

I think this season of Prehistoric Planet is based solely within the Late Pleistocene. So out of that list, the large elephants will probably be the only ones to feature. Palaeoloxodon, mammoths, mastodons and stegodon all have the possibility to feature. The rest in your list, probably not unfortunately.

Is Surviving Earth likely to be good? Idk about it.

I'm personally optimistic about it since it has Tim Haines and Loud Minds working on it.

Elsewhere, I learned about a different paleo documentary titled Surviving Earth.

https://dinopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Surviving_Earth

Tim Haines (a creator and producer on the original Walking with series) and Loud Minds (a media company that worked on Walking with Dinosaurs and Primeval) are working on this show. It will supposedly consist of eight 1 hour long episodes that cover various extinction events throughout prehistory. I recall reading that the Great Dying and the Carboniferous Rainforest Collapse will have episodes.

Ooh, I'm gonna check out the turtle one! That seems interesting and I like the animation. Plus the title reminds me of the "Toratorn" or whatever it's called - that ginormous spec evo turtle that reached sauropod sizes.

Aye, it is a little reminiscent of the Toraton from The Future is Wild, though this critter is a bit more modest in size compared to that behemoth.

I've got a thread marked post in this FC with the link to Kappa's channel and his first three videos. He's made a good few more videos since my post so it's definitely worth checking his channel out.

Time for a little something different in a nice Speculative Evolution project that I am following on YouTube. It is not paleo content but it does involve evolution and I don't care for enough Spec Ev projects to make a thread dedicated to just them, so in this thread here it goes.

Besides, this is my thread. What is the point of power if not to abuse it a little?

Anyway, the series I am following is Kappa: World of Turtles.

Spoiler: Link.

https://m.youtube.com/@KappatheWorldofTurtles-tm6zb

This is a speculative evolution project regarding a seed world that is populated with you guessed it, turtles (and some other things too, to feed the turtles of course).

Turtles in general are pretty cool creatures. I like those goofy goober reptiles quite a bit. Alligator snapping turtles meanwhile are absolutely awesome and this project has alligator snappers being the only vertebrate introduced to this seed world.

So why am I recommending this? Well after a 5 month wait from the first video explaining the background, I was shocked to see that the mad lad behind this project actually animated the first episode. Episode 2 came out a couple of days ago and yep, it is animated too. After watching a few different spec ev projects, I must say that watching the creatures and world come alive in an animated series is a very nice change of pace after seeing an artist's still pic for the 100th time.

The videos have a real nice soothing ambience to them and the whole seed world has this gentle vibe to it. I can just imagine having the most pleasant boating trip conceivable on this planet. Well at least when there isn't a tropical mega storm going on.

There are three videos currently released on YouTube and the audio quality notably improves in consistency after the Prologue.

Spoiler: Prologue.

13 minute video.

Spoiler: Episode 1

12 minute video.

Spoiler: Episode 2

9 minute video.

Well with my last recommendation of the year for this thread, I wish all you fine folk a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Without permian extinction, dinosaur may have never dominated given mammal like animals like gorgonaopsids dominated the landscape. Mammals could have dominated much earlier.

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[Zoinks52]

Without permian extinction, dinosaur may have never dominated given mammal like animals like gorgonaopsids dominated the landscape. Mammals could have dominated much earlier.

Gorgonopsids are super cool. They were the OG sabertooths and my favourite part of WWM along with Pterygotus, Hyneria, Arthropleura/unnamed amphibian, and Dimetrodon.

Speaking of which WWM presented Dimetrodon and some other species as being like direct ancestors of humanity iirc. I think they were taking some liberties there though.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Gorgonopsids are super cool. They were the OG sabertooths and my favourite part of WWM along with Pterygotus, Hyneria, Arthropleura/unnamed amphibian, and Dimetrodon.

Speaking of which WWM presented Dimetrodon and some other species as being like direct ancestors of humanity iirc. I think they were taking some liberties there though.

They are related to us but cynodonts are our direct ancestors from permian period.

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[MonsterKaido]

The goat

 

[TheAncientGorosei]

Nobody is allowed to post that paper on this website.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Not related to paleo but very good vid.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Nobody is allowed to post that paper on this website.

You mean the paper that proves Illyrian-Pelasgians are the original inhabitants of Greece and the entirety of Europe and built the Bosnian pyramids?
The study behind this paper shocked experts and laypeople alike but nonetheless made it's way into mainstream academia due to its sheer density of convincing, well attested factual findings.

 

[Owl Ki]

Hmm. Another spec ev project has been announced. An alternate timeline where the K-Pg extinction also wiped out all mammals except the Monotremes.

Spoiler: Age of Monotremes.

8 minute video. Video immediately starts with a short animation. Skip to 5:40 for a storyboard trailer.

You have my interest monotreme man.

Although highlighting the "success" of Agate: Forgotten Bloodlines is a bit funny when there still isn't an episode of that yet.

Well, what'll happen will happen. Although their aiming for a full TV show seems pretty unrealistic.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Hi

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Filler

 

[Owl Ki]

Apple TV released a full trailer for Prehistoric Planet season 3 and it looks so good.

Spoiler

It looks to me like there are wolly mammoths, wolly rhinos, ground sloths (possibly Megalonyx), giant ground sloth (either Eremotherium or Megatherium), smilodon, homotherium, giant short faced kangaroo, marsupial lion, glyptodon, a teratorn vulture, doedicurus, a species of dwarf elephant, a giant Flores Island stork, New Zealand moa, I think a Macrauchenia of some kind, Megalania and a Megaloceros.

They even have Steller's sea cow bros. It's peak.

They even have what looks like giant otters of the genus Enhydriodon. That's a surprise for sure but a welcome one.

Some tags:
@Zoinks52 @MonsterKaido @Elder Lee Hung @RayanOO @Blackbeard @God Buggy @FutureWarrior123 @moreha9685 @TheAncientCenturion @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @Brush D. Teeth @NikaInParis @SmokedOut @Mr. Reloaded @ConquistadoR @Jeanstealer @Warchief Sanji D Goat @Shanks @TheKnightOfTheSea @GrandmasterChef Zonji

 

[RayanOO]

Apple TV released a full trailer for Prehistoric Planet season 3 and it looks so good.

Spoiler

It looks to me like there are wolly mammoths, wolly rhinos, ground sloths (possibly Megalonyx), giant ground sloth (either Eremotherium or Megatherium), smilodon, homotherium, giant short faced kangaroo, marsupial lion, glyptodon, a teratorn vulture, doedicurus, a species of dwarf elephant, a giant Flores Island stork, New Zealand moa, I think a Macrauchenia of some kind, Megalania and a Megaloceros.

They even have Steller's sea cow bros. It's peak.

They even have what looks like giant otters of the genus Enhydriodon. That's a surprise for sure but a welcome one.

Some tags:
@Zoinks52 @MonsterKaido @Elder Lee Hung @RayanOO @Blackbeard @God Buggy @FutureWarrior123 @moreha9685 @TheAncientCenturion @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @Brush D. Teeth @NikaInParis @SmokedOut @Mr. Reloaded @ConquistadoR @Jeanstealer @Warchief Sanji D Goat @Shanks @TheKnightOfTheSea @GrandmasterChef Zonji

Looks dope lol

will definitely watch this

 

[moreha9685]

Apple TV released a full trailer for Prehistoric Planet season 3 and it looks so good.

Spoiler

It looks to me like there are wolly mammoths, wolly rhinos, ground sloths (possibly Megalonyx), giant ground sloth (either Eremotherium or Megatherium), smilodon, homotherium, giant short faced kangaroo, marsupial lion, glyptodon, a teratorn vulture, doedicurus, a species of dwarf elephant, a giant Flores Island stork, New Zealand moa, I think a Macrauchenia of some kind, Megalania and a Megaloceros.

They even have Steller's sea cow bros. It's peak.

They even have what looks like giant otters of the genus Enhydriodon. That's a surprise for sure but a welcome one.

Some tags:
@Zoinks52 @MonsterKaido @Elder Lee Hung @RayanOO @Blackbeard @God Buggy @FutureWarrior123 @moreha9685 @TheAncientCenturion @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @Brush D. Teeth @NikaInParis @SmokedOut @Mr. Reloaded @ConquistadoR @Jeanstealer @Warchief Sanji D Goat @Shanks @TheKnightOfTheSea @GrandmasterChef Zonji

An owl excited at the sight of all those ancient mammals

 

[Zoinks52]

Apple TV released a full trailer for Prehistoric Planet season 3 and it looks so good.

Spoiler

It looks to me like there are wolly mammoths, wolly rhinos, ground sloths (possibly Megalonyx), giant ground sloth (either Eremotherium or Megatherium), smilodon, homotherium, giant short faced kangaroo, marsupial lion, glyptodon, a teratorn vulture, doedicurus, a species of dwarf elephant, a giant Flores Island stork, New Zealand moa, I think a Macrauchenia of some kind, Megalania and a Megaloceros.

They even have Steller's sea cow bros. It's peak.

They even have what looks like giant otters of the genus Enhydriodon. That's a surprise for sure but a welcome one.

Some tags:
@Zoinks52 @MonsterKaido @Elder Lee Hung @RayanOO @Blackbeard @God Buggy @FutureWarrior123 @moreha9685 @TheAncientCenturion @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @Brush D. Teeth @NikaInParis @SmokedOut @Mr. Reloaded @ConquistadoR @Jeanstealer @Warchief Sanji D Goat @Shanks @TheKnightOfTheSea @GrandmasterChef Zonji

Gorgeous.

I see two ground sloths. I think the big hairless one is Eremotherium right? Not sure about the fluffy white ones.

My only complaint is that they could mixed up some lesser known Cenozoic fauna as well, like Amphicyon or Diprotodon....it gets a little boring getting woolly mammoths and rhinos always.

Different species of the same animal even like Steppe Mammoths and Elasmotherium would be great.

Speaking of which, I noticed that they seemingly took a little dig at Life On Our Planet by having a mammoth easily toss away a Homotherium like it was nothing, I like that.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Apple TV released a full trailer for Prehistoric Planet season 3 and it looks so good.

Spoiler

It looks to me like there are wolly mammoths, wolly rhinos, ground sloths (possibly Megalonyx), giant ground sloth (either Eremotherium or Megatherium), smilodon, homotherium, giant short faced kangaroo, marsupial lion, glyptodon, a teratorn vulture, doedicurus, a species of dwarf elephant, a giant Flores Island stork, New Zealand moa, I think a Macrauchenia of some kind, Megalania and a Megaloceros.

They even have Steller's sea cow bros. It's peak.

They even have what looks like giant otters of the genus Enhydriodon. That's a surprise for sure but a welcome one.

Some tags:
@Zoinks52 @MonsterKaido @Elder Lee Hung @RayanOO @Blackbeard @God Buggy @FutureWarrior123 @moreha9685 @TheAncientCenturion @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @Brush D. Teeth @NikaInParis @SmokedOut @Mr. Reloaded @ConquistadoR @Jeanstealer @Warchief Sanji D Goat @Shanks @TheKnightOfTheSea @GrandmasterChef Zonji

This makes me angry as shit that there's so many cool animals we just never got, and may never get, the chance to see in real life.

 

[Zoinks52]

This makes me angry as shit that there's so many cool animals we just never got, and may never get, the chance to see in real life.

Worst part is that some of them were around but driven to extinction by humans.

Thylacines, Stellar's Sea cows, dodos, Syrian war elephants, moa birds, Kaua o'o etc...IIRC the last ever Thylacine's body was initially thrown out with the trash before it was recovered.

I remember reading one of Bill Bryson's books where he describes hunters as "enthusiastically" hunting certain species of birds to extinction.

I'm not a "humanity bad" type in general but some things some people have done are very....reprehensible.

On a lighter note, even Woolly mammoths were still around when they were building the pyramids!

A lot of "prehistoric animals" actually coexisted with modern fauna too. Hodarinundu has some good art based on such scenarios, like this tiger chasing a Megantereon

Or this Gigantopithecus mistaking a panda for its young

Another really good one is this work by Rudolf Hima featuring a great white shark and a certain ancestor.

 

[Owl Ki]

Gorgeous.

I see two ground sloths. I think the big hairless one is Eremotherium right? Not sure about the fluffy white ones.

I suspect the big one is Eremotherium too. It can only be that or Megatherium. Since Megatherium has a prominent portrayal in Walking with Beasts, I think they'll go with Eremotherium.

I think I saw somewhere that the white ones are Megalonyx. If so, Megalonyx jeffersoni would make sense. They're the largest and most famous of that genus.

My only complaint is that they could mixed up some lesser known Cenozoic fauna as well, like Amphicyon or Diprotodon....it gets a little boring getting woolly mammoths and rhinos always.

I expect Diprotodon will appear. I doubt the trailer shows absolutely everything.

They're certainly heading to the relevant time period and place for Diprotodon and big D is really too famous to leave out, especially considering it doesn't have that much portrayal in media.

I doubt Amphicyon will feature. It perished a few million years before the Ice Age.

Speaking of which, I noticed that they seemingly took a little dig at Life On Our Planet by having a mammoth easily toss away a Homotherium like it was nothing, I like that.

Beef between paleo shows. You love to see it.

An owl excited at the sight of all those ancient mammals

I still pray that the Cuban giant ground owl might appear.

This makes me angry as shit that there's so many cool animals we just never got, and may never get, the chance to see in real life.

End Ice Age extinctions are particularly miffening cause so much awesome megafauna just kicked the bucket about 12,000 years ago. The extinctions are so recent that ecosystems still haven't fully adapted to the loss.

Avocado are lucky that humans like them. Seeds that large were designed for giant ground sloths to disperse them.