Palestine/Israel Conflict
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This all falls apart when you realize the Jews are more than a religious group. They’re an ethnic group that was displaced from their homeland by the romans, Catholics etc. Amongst the creators of the Zionist Idealogu were atheist, and there were secular groups that participated in the Israel independence
again nobody here is bold enough to say the Armenians don’t deserve their state, right?
I’m actually offended I wasted my time speaking with someone as ignorant as you
if you don’t care to learn don’t engage in conversations
again nobody here is bold enough to say the Armenians don’t deserve their state, right?
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I’m actually offended I wasted my time speaking with someone as ignorant as you
if you don’t care to learn don’t engage in conversations
Someone who is very much interested in geopolitics and read a lot of books and is up to date with news etc.
I would say only common people are suffering from both side. No side is good or bad. Both are using their own people to keep themselve relevant . It's the same story everywhere.
As a third party observer i would only suggest to Palestine people specially.
1. Don't let one group to fight for you (it's not necessarily they r fighting for you)
2. Don't fall for those social media support (95% are propaganda from your allies)
3. Seek higher education and use it only for goodwill of your own people
4. Don't seek revenge , you will be scapegoat.
5. Use Gandhi ideology to get your rights if you think that you are the real victim.
I would say only common people are suffering from both side. No side is good or bad. Both are using their own people to keep themselve relevant . It's the same story everywhere.
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As a third party observer i would only suggest to Palestine people specially.
1. Don't let one group to fight for you (it's not necessarily they r fighting for you)
2. Don't fall for those social media support (95% are propaganda from your allies)
3. Seek higher education and use it only for goodwill of your own people
4. Don't seek revenge , you will be scapegoat.
5. Use Gandhi ideology to get your rights if you think that you are the real victim.
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ig yea.. but ig its a point i think i derived from it... tho the post right after didn't align with my deduction
what i think he admitted was that this isn't a matter of just good and bad.. but ultimately self-centric motive... at the end of the day this doesn't do justice to the ones being segregated against... that was he followed up with the vast layers this topic revolves upon..
but at the end of that day we don't need intricate layers to really deduce the weight one scale when it comes to suffering of innocents which the majority is Palestinians..
so being neutral doesn't really deduce the problem or the solution..
it just assumes that its a shared responsibility.. which isn't the way to go here.. in a way it also assumes that its a proportionate struggle which is also wrong
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what i think he admitted was that this isn't a matter of just good and bad.. but ultimately self-centric motive... at the end of the day this doesn't do justice to the ones being segregated against... that was he followed up with the vast layers this topic revolves upon..
but at the end of that day we don't need intricate layers to really deduce the weight one scale when it comes to suffering of innocents which the majority is Palestinians..
so being neutral doesn't really deduce the problem or the solution..
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it just assumes that its a shared responsibility.. which isn't the way to go here.. in a way it also assumes that its a proportionate struggle which is also wrong
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I by means not capable to decide who is wrong and who is right.
When people think that other side can't be good and we can't be bad it shut the door of further discussions.
When you raise such sensitive issue on international and social platform . You need to know what you wants to achieve .
Is it simple as we are the one victim and world should listen to us. Then my friend get ready to be disappointed .
My not here to tell here who is right and who is wrong . My post here
To convey my point of view which help them to ease their problems..If people are not satisfied and think it's useless that's ok.
People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts... Their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?" Itachi Uchiha
This quote fit for both side
When people think that other side can't be good and we can't be bad it shut the door of further discussions.
When you raise such sensitive issue on international and social platform . You need to know what you wants to achieve .
Is it simple as we are the one victim and world should listen to us. Then my friend get ready to be disappointed .
My not here to tell here who is right and who is wrong . My post here
To convey my point of view which help them to ease their problems..If people are not satisfied and think it's useless that's ok.
People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts... Their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?" Itachi Uchiha
This quote fit for both side
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I will just say this, HAMAS called izrael civil people as military settles, that build up in their fucked up ideology. I'm just saying that in WW2 if people would just show how ruthless united armys act against nazi, the every one will try to call em bad. But Nazi was destroyed with whole force with people who supported em, and any other oraganization that called civil people as war target should be destroyed.
I will just say this, HAMAS called izrael civil people as military settles, that build up in their fucked up ideology. I'm just saying that in WW2 if people would just show how ruthless united armys act against nazi, the every one will try to call em bad. But Nazi was destroyed with whole force with people who supported em, and any other oraganization that called civil people as war target should be destroyed.
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from an outside perspective Israel is the problem.
not the citizens, not judaism. Israel as a state.
Jews living in Iran are the proof of this. they can happily coexist in a country that calls for the annihilation of Israel.
this statement is true and can be applied to Israels treatment of the Palestinians. its against their religion.
the land that is currently referred to as Israel belongs to both Palestinians and Jews and should be shared. as equals.
if Jews can live happily in Iran then Palestinians can live together with Jews in Israel aswell.
Jews, or better Zionists, may believe that Jews deserve their own nation. maybe they do, but nowhere is it necessary to have this nation all to themselves.
other countries took them in in the past aswell.
from an outside perspective Israel is the problem.
not the citizens, not judaism. Israel as a state.
Jews living in Iran are the proof of this. they can happily coexist in a country that calls for the annihilation of Israel.
this statement is true and can be applied to Israels treatment of the Palestinians. its against their religion.
the land that is currently referred to as Israel belongs to both Palestinians and Jews and should be shared. as equals.
if Jews can live happily in Iran then Palestinians can live together with Jews in Israel aswell.
Jews, or better Zionists, may believe that Jews deserve their own nation. maybe they do, but nowhere is it necessary to have this nation all to themselves.
other countries took them in in the past aswell.
Jews never created organizations that call Palestins as millitary settles. This is fu*ked up man. HAMAS is terrorist organization, supporting em is supportimg terrorism. When your friends will die in like underground station case some motherfuc*ker believes that he has right to kill innocent people, try then to justify their actions. HAMAS should be burned
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