Controversial Phinks vs Uvogin - Strongest Enhancer in the Phantom Troupe
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Not sure about Rabid Dog, but Porcupine definitely used a hatsu. None of the three remaining principles (ten, zetsu, ren) or even the advanced techniques (gyo, in, en, shu, ko, ken, ryu) can make hair grown and become sharper than steel. It can only be hatsu, a specific nen ability. (Btw, now that I thought again Rabid Dog might be a transmuter, since I doubt that he'd be able to have a paralyzing neurotoxin inside his mouth casually.)
About the rest of your post, I agree with you. Uvo vs. Phinks would be a tough battle for both of them.
About the rest of your post, I agree with you. Uvo vs. Phinks would be a tough battle for both of them.
Even putting aside the durability part, what can Phinks actually even do? They're both close range fighters so they'll both be within punching distance of each other 24/7 and Uvogin's not just going to stand there and let Phinks wind his arm a few dozen times lmao, and without Ripper Cyclotron, what does Phinks have? Nothing.
Unlike Phinks, Uvogin doesn't need to charge Big Bang Impact as we saw against Kurapika. Ripper Cyclotron has the higher AP limit if you use no limits fallacy, but Big Bang Impact is far easier to use in combat and is still devastating.
Unlike Phinks, Uvogin doesn't need to charge Big Bang Impact as we saw against Kurapika. Ripper Cyclotron has the higher AP limit if you use no limits fallacy, but Big Bang Impact is far easier to use in combat and is still devastating.
Its hilarious how everyone acts like his charging is very slow, or that it makes him immobile or that it makes him useless. All hes doing is moving one arm up down. He has the rest of the body to dodge and defend. Once he reaches 15 spins, it'll be Uvo that will be terrified of him landing the punch
U can’t really define that hatsu tho
His hatsu can simply be hair manipulation like shown , but even with that he specifically needs to enhance his hair so he can pierce uvo’s skin
Take Shalnark as an example , his hatsu can manipulate anyone , but the condition is to pierce his opponent with needles ,
Thus he ain’t got a chance to manipulate a character who’s durability is greater than his enhancement .
and what rabid dog did was nothing special , he just enhanced his teeth so it can cut uvo
That thing is too basic to be a hatsu , the main motive of this scenario is to highlight how these shadow beasts are good nen users,
it would be kind of pointless if their feat was done solely cause of their hatsu .
Ehhh
This is anime , stuff like that happens pretty often
These guys were assassins too
And that’s actually worse ngl , he was a transmuter and yet he can pierce uvo’s skin
Hair grow ? No
That’s his hatsu
But those nen techniques can def make him tougher than steel
Yes ,
imo uvo is stronger but I don’t think this is a one-sided domination
Phinx does have a wincon
And he needs 5 rounds of ripper cyclotron to charge that up as a oneshot for uvo ,
uvo’s wincon here is to keep the pressure on sphinx and not let him land his hatsu while he himself lands some Big Bang punches .
His hatsu can simply be hair manipulation like shown , but even with that he specifically needs to enhance his hair so he can pierce uvo’s skin
Take Shalnark as an example , his hatsu can manipulate anyone , but the condition is to pierce his opponent with needles ,
Thus he ain’t got a chance to manipulate a character who’s durability is greater than his enhancement .
and what rabid dog did was nothing special , he just enhanced his teeth so it can cut uvo
That thing is too basic to be a hatsu , the main motive of this scenario is to highlight how these shadow beasts are good nen users,
it would be kind of pointless if their feat was done solely cause of their hatsu .
Ehhh
This is anime , stuff like that happens pretty often
These guys were assassins too
And that’s actually worse ngl , he was a transmuter and yet he can pierce uvo’s skin
Hair grow ? No
That’s his hatsu
But those nen techniques can def make him tougher than steel
Yes ,
imo uvo is stronger but I don’t think this is a one-sided domination
Phinx does have a wincon
And he needs 5 rounds of ripper cyclotron to charge that up as a oneshot for uvo ,
uvo’s wincon here is to keep the pressure on sphinx and not let him land his hatsu while he himself lands some Big Bang punches .
I cant understand for the life of me why are you all microanalyzing Uvogin getting slightly hurt by fodders that he literally said & took out just being able to move from neck up.
OT: Uvogin is probably the stronger one. He's more into fighting than any other Troupe member - Kurapika called him a combat machine to the bone. Even Phinks said he couldnt believe that Uvo got kidnapped, Uvo losing or getting caught is an unthinkable idea to him.
Idk why we are pretending like Uvo's slow either, the guy literally caught a bullet fired from point blank with his teeth.
In this 1v1, Uvo can use Big Bag Impact consistently without needing a charge up for his big hits like Phinks. Both of them can hurt each other, it's decided by who manages to land their big hit first and I don't see Uvo losing here.
@Chrono interesting that you compare Phinks to Gon though, cuz in the story Nobunaga thinks of Uvo when he sees Gon.
OT: Uvogin is probably the stronger one. He's more into fighting than any other Troupe member - Kurapika called him a combat machine to the bone. Even Phinks said he couldnt believe that Uvo got kidnapped, Uvo losing or getting caught is an unthinkable idea to him.
Idk why we are pretending like Uvo's slow either, the guy literally caught a bullet fired from point blank with his teeth.
In this 1v1, Uvo can use Big Bag Impact consistently without needing a charge up for his big hits like Phinks. Both of them can hurt each other, it's decided by who manages to land their big hit first and I don't see Uvo losing here.
@Chrono interesting that you compare Phinks to Gon though, cuz in the story Nobunaga thinks of Uvo when he sees Gon.
Only w.r.t. the conditions they have on their nen ability to boost their power output.
Uvogin with his mastery of Enhancing and aura had his own special move with just Ko and he could use it as a standard move, without any conditions.
Besides, i would still say scenes like these, really drive home how similar Gon & Uvogin are. This is the author himself choosing to make that comparision, not just as Enhancers but in general. Especially the scene with Gon & Nobunaga where Nobunaga cracks up in an otherwise tense standoff at the similarities in the way they carry themselves.
Uvogin with his mastery of Enhancing and aura had his own special move with just Ko and he could use it as a standard move, without any conditions.
Besides, i would still say scenes like these, really drive home how similar Gon & Uvogin are. This is the author himself choosing to make that comparision, not just as Enhancers but in general. Especially the scene with Gon & Nobunaga where Nobunaga cracks up in an otherwise tense standoff at the similarities in the way they carry themselves.
Only w.r.t. the conditions they have on their nen ability to boost their power output.
Uvogin with his mastery of Enhancing and aura had his own special move with just Ko and he could use it as a standard move, without any conditions.
Besides, i would still say scenes like these, really drive home how similar Gon & Uvogin are. This is the author himself choosing to make that comparision, not just as Enhancers but in general. Especially the scene with Gon & Nobunaga where Nobunaga cracks up in an otherwise tense standoff at the similarities in the way they carry themselves.
Uvogin with his mastery of Enhancing and aura had his own special move with just Ko and he could use it as a standard move, without any conditions.
Besides, i would still say scenes like these, really drive home how similar Gon & Uvogin are. This is the author himself choosing to make that comparision, not just as Enhancers but in general. Especially the scene with Gon & Nobunaga where Nobunaga cracks up in an otherwise tense standoff at the similarities in the way they carry themselves.
I never said Phinks and Gon were similar in terms of personality anyways. Phinks isnt a simple minded Enhancer. Hes like Netero. Both are smart outside of combat.
Less Power only compared to a theoretical Phinks maximum with god knows how many spins tbh.
On an average, i would argue that Uvogin would hit harder than Phinks. A Big Bang is too much for anyone who isnt at 100% Enchancement, and even against a 100% Enchancer in Kurapika - all out Uvo shredded his arm with a Big Bang. That's insane if you think about it.
On an average, i would argue that Uvogin would hit harder than Phinks. A Big Bang is too much for anyone who isnt at 100% Enchancement, and even against a 100% Enchancer in Kurapika - all out Uvo shredded his arm with a Big Bang. That's insane if you think about it.
No its not insane...its pathetic. His full power couldnt kill Kurapika. A novice Nen user at Enhancement protection.
If Rammot who could tank a Janken is eqivalent to the Gorrila ant. And the Gorrila ant dies to 5 spins from Phinks. And janken at that point could destroy lots of people like Genthru. How many spins do you genuinely think Phinks need to be above Uvo ? 20 ? 30 ? I say 30 spins is very comfortably above his Big Bang Impact.
If Rammot who could tank a Janken is eqivalent to the Gorrila ant. And the Gorrila ant dies to 5 spins from Phinks. And janken at that point could destroy lots of people like Genthru. How many spins do you genuinely think Phinks need to be above Uvo ? 20 ? 30 ? I say 30 spins is very comfortably above his Big Bang Impact.
Yeah no, his full power literally destroyed Kurapika's arm.
20% of Uvogin's power according to his estimate was blocked by Kurapika and even that was only because of Emperor Time. Non-Enhancers can't even withstand that without their body breaking in Uvogin's eyes.
I think you're just severely underestimating Kurapika and in turn, downplaying Uvogin's showings.
30 spins is ridiculous and not at all viable in actual 1v1 combat.
Big Bang Impact on the other hand, is your average right hand punch that Uvogin can throw btw and can surely crush Phinks' defenses like what happened to Kurapika.
Functionally far more viable.
20% of Uvogin's power according to his estimate was blocked by Kurapika and even that was only because of Emperor Time. Non-Enhancers can't even withstand that without their body breaking in Uvogin's eyes.
I think you're just severely underestimating Kurapika and in turn, downplaying Uvogin's showings.
30 spins is ridiculous and not at all viable in actual 1v1 combat.
Big Bang Impact on the other hand, is your average right hand punch that Uvogin can throw btw and can surely crush Phinks' defenses like what happened to Kurapika.
Functionally far more viable.