[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon Chose your own starters

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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Ultra has done more at helping town this game then you have. Like he actually found scum.
He caught 1 scum, Polar. I caught 1 scum, Luka. What more has he done Psychic? His next pushes have been Flower (town), Melkor (town) and me (town).
Er…..rolecrush and destroy are literally the same thing. Rolecrush immune should mean your abilities can’t be destroyed lmao.
Where did I claim rolecrush immunity?
Why are you just using it now?
It's not actually mine, I was being sarcastic.
 
He caught 1 scum, Polar. I caught 1 scum, Luka. What more has he done Psychic? His next pushes have been Flower (town), Melkor (town) and me (town).
Where did I claim rolecrush immunity?
It's not actually mine, I was being sarcastic.
he was clearly just messing with Flower, anyone can see that. And you were pushing LM too. Gotta say, LM is a hard read.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
he was clearly just messing with Flower, anyone can see that. And you were pushing LM too. Gotta say, LM is a hard read.
Where was I pushing LM? I spent most of yesterday pushing elsewhere. So no, answer the question please Psychic. You said Ultra has done more, he caught scum. You can't say I didn't catch Luka. So the only way you can believe that statement is if you know Ultra has caught more than just Polar. Please enlighten us.
 
he was clearly just messing with Flower, anyone can see that. And you were pushing LM too. Gotta say, LM is a hard read.
He was not messing with me. He was absolutely serious.


This thought process kinda weird in hindsight

Like it doesn't really make sense for her to assume this behavior of me. This reeks of a consciousness of her own alignment that she assumes I should have for some reason.

I mean when you break this down she's literally casing me for not scum reading her 2 seconds into the game. Might be some telling on herself here.

And her reason for pushing me feels very very similar to something she did in her last scum game on OLF with Gad - she cited something said on discord, and then drove it in very bad faith to insist it was scummy and worth a lynch.

I think I'm gonna pull receipts, I don't think Flower is necessarily out of her scum range here if this is multiball
She also seems more focused on tunneling people than excusing and town reading them in general
https://onelastforum.com/threads/yo...world-economic-forum.4867/page-22#post-403151

Quote and game in question. Yeah pretty similar actually, she then goes on to basically tunnel him to death and try and reinforce consensus around this reasoning.

Don't recall her having to do this dumb discord shit as town either in general, think it's something she does as scum because she feels more secure in citing evidence for an accusation

She stopped tunneling me but that's probably because she saw easier opportunities, she took another swing when I joked about being Indi which kinda obviously should have been in jest.
Do think Gad's probably scum anyway but that entrance is far to similar for me to ignore, her comments around using an action on me feel kinda fake as well. She asks ""mafia"" not to intervene with an action she apparently queued up already and there's no apparent reason why they'd do that to begin with

Nor is she typically that concerned about indies

If I'm feeling cute might press her for a claim
Also think Flower digging up Gad's ISO to try and prove her point and link Luka to him feels like an attempt to corner him. Don't think she really needs to put all this effort in D1 in SRM in normal circumstances if she thinks Gad is full of shit. Instead she's insistent Luka *can't* be mistaken and uses it to evidence he's bad, even though him defending Gad in this circumstance doesn't really feel like a paired behavior.
This also felt fake as she's got her lips firmly attached to Magic's nuts, knows she's not going to see this through and knows he is often semi absent on Day 1's
Satire, of herself.

Also highlights I don't actually think she wants to drive reads out of me and Magic, this is her first time really asking and it is tounge and cheek.

Why isn't she asking Ratchet by the way lol
@Neeko @Emil Thoughts on my Flowa case? Slowbro is tapping into his latent psychic abilities.
One last thing - Flower isn't citing Ratchet's capability of reading Gad behind her push, not even once. Her usual logic should be "lel Ratchet has a godread on him", instead she's being sweaty and putting a lot more effort into consensus building.

Kinda weird!
^ Flower who is pathologically insistent on having as much time in a day phase as possible and not ending discussion early is bored and wish we could hammer

The only time I've seen her express this sentiment is in the linked scum game of hers:

https://onelastforum.com/threads/yo...world-economic-forum.4867/page-30#post-403686



And wouldn't you know, it's on Gad as well!
This thought doesn't come from town Flower. At this point I've literally done nothing but shitposted and laughed in her face at her feeble attempts to wagon me.

She normally doesn't stop riding me until I've "produced" something for her in terms of reads and her lack of doing so here is probably because she is more inclined to taking the easy way out as scum, which is why Gad is a favored target of hers (Regardless of Gad's alignment here)
If this is presumably multiball, why can't Luka's sentiment be genuine here? Because he wouldn't be able to say with confidence Gad is town and not just on the opposing team either. Without TMI he'd have to run the risk of his read being proven totally wrong

Instead Flower just lazily acknowledges they're incompatible, calls him scum anyway because his difference of opinion can't be anything but scum, even though as RDK observed this is very much in his wheelhouse.

Comparison on Flower's end is a bit forced as well - she insisted him claiming bulletproof is similar to what he's done here and his tendency to fold easily as scum. But he actually hasn't given anything at all so far.
Fake.

From her perspective and the arguments she has laid out, in conjunction with him refusing to claim in full, Gad should 100% be the vote today. There's no conviction here. There's no reason for her to consider Luka/Yoho when Gad has given her nothing and she is supposedly scum locked on him
No I don't find it plausible with the way she's positioned herself on Gad that she'd feel like she could peruse other options at this point.

He refused to full claim, her position should be "he needs to die"
Yup, anyone who has witnessed or been on the receiving end of one of her tunnels knows she doesn't just give up halfway through and suggest she could go for someone else at random. She's under the impression Gad has lied about his role in the same fashion he would as scum, and he isn't even remotely interested in a full claim, but she's flexible. wut.

Historically Gad has played pretty stubbornly to the point of passive aggressively not giving information when wagoned. I wouldn't go far as to town read him at all, and he probably deserves exactly what he gets for acting like a bitch every time he's getting voted up, but her approach to him really stinks. Could be scum/scum, could be scum/town
Have your intern read This post and her ISO tell him to report his findings
Exactly

"LOL LuLtra"

Her response is purely posturing and as far s I'm concerned I'm fine with looping her head off since her response wasn't immediate full claim, another indicator she's on her scum meta.

The parallels with her push in Gad in the WEF game is probably the thing that sold me over into actually voting her and she just avoided it and everything kek
@Ultra if you're so confident on me I'm sure you have no issue with a name change bet.

If I flip Town your UN will be Lultra on OLF and here until Christmas.


If I'm scum mine will be Ultra's Bitch.
I'll do it, now full claim
You jailed Luka? Bad usage
THIS is not how you fake push a player. He was dead set on me being scum and wanted me gone.
 
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