Versus Battle Post Rose Meruem vs Charlotte Katakuri
- Thread starter Cinera
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Ok?
Thank you for the clarification, i don´t know which version is now more accurate tbh.
Still, we have the other lightning counter feat from Luffy.
Ok, i will reread the part.
Nah, i don´t see you as a bitch, i don´t force you to accept any feats or scaling here, the same i would never accept LS Meruem since inconsistent.
I never argued for "Base" Enel, as long he isn´t in his element he shouldn´t move automatically on that speed. I mean even Kizaru didn´t move at LS at all, he has to turn in his element. Luffy dodges most of Base Enel his attacks easy, but that´s not why i scale him above lightning lol.
I scaled lightning since Luffy react to it. That´s how the scaling works. I can´t scale him from Base Enel, since we don´t know how fast he is. We only know how fast lightning should be and that is the point which is useful. I mean, at the beginning even Luffy has trouble to keep up with Enel his lightning, but it seems after a lot of strikes he can react to it, because he got used to the speed.
You showed me the explanation of En, but you didn´t show me a feat at least not from what i remember.
In the translation you posted it made it seem like Luffy could see how big El Thor was....however in the acc Viz translation.
And Luffy didnt dodge it. Ganfall saved him.
And Luffy didnt dodge it. Ganfall saved him.
Still, we have the other lightning counter feat from Luffy.
Ok, i will reread the part.
Sorry. You may see me as a bitch. But I cant accept that.
. Its unquantifiable.
. Its unquantifiable.
I never argued for "Base" Enel, as long he isn´t in his element he shouldn´t move automatically on that speed. I mean even Kizaru didn´t move at LS at all, he has to turn in his element. Luffy dodges most of Base Enel his attacks easy, but that´s not why i scale him above lightning lol.
I scaled lightning since Luffy react to it. That´s how the scaling works. I can´t scale him from Base Enel, since we don´t know how fast he is. We only know how fast lightning should be and that is the point which is useful. I mean, at the beginning even Luffy has trouble to keep up with Enel his lightning, but it seems after a lot of strikes he can react to it, because he got used to the speed.
You showed me the explanation of En, but you didn´t show me a feat at least not from what i remember.
I guess the difference is that OP chars' powerlevel shows inconsistant gaps between scenes.
Zoro cuts steel, Luffy breaks steel. Zoro cut mountain Pica, but he hasnt kill anyone with a cut. Chinjao breaks ice continent but against other fighter he was average. Mihawk cut an iceberg but against Luffy he couldnt severe any of his limb even when he cut him. Like Oda will hype Luffy to headbutt a cliff until its broken, but his attacks never kills a person even though KKG imo, by breaking God Thread alone, has the power to practically level entire Dressrosa. But Doflamingo suffers no lasting damage in Impel Down. He just fufufu and huahaha like hes fine.
This is the kind of gaps that imo make powerscaling in OP is dominantly entertainment to wow readers rather than objective math.
This is quite different with HxH where every DC lethality do means lethal, if someone can crush steel with his barehand then if that person punch others' head, then we have heads flying apart and arms being severed and when it happens it just happens and no plot protection against those guys, the chars must find the method to avoid the DC or lethality or they will be dead due to the DC.
Zoro cuts steel, Luffy breaks steel. Zoro cut mountain Pica, but he hasnt kill anyone with a cut. Chinjao breaks ice continent but against other fighter he was average. Mihawk cut an iceberg but against Luffy he couldnt severe any of his limb even when he cut him. Like Oda will hype Luffy to headbutt a cliff until its broken, but his attacks never kills a person even though KKG imo, by breaking God Thread alone, has the power to practically level entire Dressrosa. But Doflamingo suffers no lasting damage in Impel Down. He just fufufu and huahaha like hes fine.
This is the kind of gaps that imo make powerscaling in OP is dominantly entertainment to wow readers rather than objective math.
This is quite different with HxH where every DC lethality do means lethal, if someone can crush steel with his barehand then if that person punch others' head, then we have heads flying apart and arms being severed and when it happens it just happens and no plot protection against those guys, the chars must find the method to avoid the DC or lethality or they will be dead due to the DC.
People disregard the lethality of HxH characters and it really annoys me.
Base Netero is as hard as an iron post. And with his ten protection should be several times harder than steel like Uvogin. Yet Mereum was blowing his limbs apart with pure ease.
Zazan was way harder than steel, and Feitan burnt her to a crisp with his weakest fire.
Pouf's clones could endure being inside a volcano but Killua's electricity could burn his cells
Hisoka's hands are durable enough to catch bullet coins, yet gets them ripped apart in most fights lol.
Base Netero is as hard as an iron post. And with his ten protection should be several times harder than steel like Uvogin. Yet Mereum was blowing his limbs apart with pure ease.
Zazan was way harder than steel, and Feitan burnt her to a crisp with his weakest fire.
Pouf's clones could endure being inside a volcano but Killua's electricity could burn his cells
Hisoka's hands are durable enough to catch bullet coins, yet gets them ripped apart in most fights lol.
Ahh....an intellectual.
Nice Feitan pic.
When second arc Gon can destroy steel with no ability
Unless OP verse is all on Diamond durability lvl. Theyre not surviving.
Nice Feitan pic.
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When second arc Gon can destroy steel with no ability
Unless OP verse is all on Diamond durability lvl. Theyre not surviving.
Second arc Gon casually destroying steel without even using Nen
Whilst the trash OP verse gotta develop haki to destroy steel.
HxH verse may not have great DC feats....probably due to the lack of AoE of their attacks. But they do have great AP feats.
Lmfao I forgot about this feat.
Second arc Gon casually destroying steel without even using Nen
Whilst the trash OP verse gotta develop haki to destroy steel.
HxH verse may not have great DC feats....probably due to the lack of AoE of their attacks. But they do have great AP feats.
Second arc Gon casually destroying steel without even using Nen
Whilst the trash OP verse gotta develop haki to destroy steel.
HxH verse may not have great DC feats....probably due to the lack of AoE of their attacks. But they do have great AP feats.
That was Nen.
The point of learn Nen, it's because without Nen any HxH user is very weak without this energy. That's the reason of why Hisoka stops Gon and Killua before they go to the level 200. Even a stronger character like Pitou, without Nen, can't go against a character more weak than her like Gon.
And the best proof that Gon uses Nen in this moment, is because even Killua talk about how important the Nen is. And they can be have a fate like Gido if they go to the arena without Nen.
And I will be honest. That "feat" of broke steel is very pathetic xD Even with Nen, he only broke a little stick of steel. We even see that it barely created a small crack. Much weaker characters in One Piece did better without Haki and Nen.
Are you trolling? XD
That was Nen.
The point of learn Nen, it's because without Nen any HxH user is very weak without this energy. That's the reason of why Hisoka stops Gon and Killua before they go to the level 200. Even a stronger character like Pitou, without Nen, can't go against a character more weak than her like Gon.
And the best proof that Gon uses Nen in this moment, is because even Killua talk about how important the Nen is. And they can be have a fate like Gido if they go to the arena without Nen.
And I will be honest. That "feat" of broke steel is very pathetic xD Even with Nen, he only broke a little stick of steel. We even see that it barely created a small crack. Much weaker characters in One Piece did better without Haki and Nen.
That was Nen.
The point of learn Nen, it's because without Nen any HxH user is very weak without this energy. That's the reason of why Hisoka stops Gon and Killua before they go to the level 200. Even a stronger character like Pitou, without Nen, can't go against a character more weak than her like Gon.
And the best proof that Gon uses Nen in this moment, is because even Killua talk about how important the Nen is. And they can be have a fate like Gido if they go to the arena without Nen.
And I will be honest. That "feat" of broke steel is very pathetic xD Even with Nen, he only broke a little stick of steel. We even see that it barely created a small crack. Much weaker characters in One Piece did better without Haki and Nen.
Gon needs Nen to protect himelf from Gido's spinning balls. No where was it stated he needed it to break his steel leg.
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Breakin steel is impressive due to its hardness. Gon could fucking destroy the ground if he wanted to at this point.
