Versus Battle Post Rose Meruem vs Charlotte Katakuri
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Okay then let take the lightspeed argument as right, what happen to One piece Lightspeed feats?
Zoro dodge Kuma lightspeed attack pre ts, Niji use a lightspeed attack, Kizaru lightspeed attack get blocked and stopped multiple times by other characters. If we count statements as true, we have already a Lightspeed Pre TS Zoro who could dodge multiple Lightspeed attacks as you can see here:
So overall speed would be equal here if we count both statements as true, even then Katakuri has simple hax on his side(future sight) and has a simple one hit attack(Mogura) and a far far far stronger Ap then Meruem.
The different is from Town/City lvl(Meruem) to Multi Mountain-Small Island lvl(Katakuri), the gap is too large.
Moria weaker then Katakuri perform a physical feat who easily overcome everyfeat which we see so far in Hunter x Hunter(physicalwise). Energywise we have a Franky who tank a huge mountain lvl nuke if we count such panels as right:
That explosion overcome multipletimes the nuke which Meruem tank, that is a mountain lvl nuke and Franky tank it.
Meruem had great potential as @Sentinel mentioned before, but the problem is that he never get the chance to show his all out feat.
Also we donยดt have compare feats who could make it for as easy, if we only would get the dark continent, we could place Meruem better. But right now Meruem league is similar as All For one of Boku no hero, overall it make more sense to compare a verse as Hunter x Hunter with Boku no Hero and not One piece(who is leagues above).
Zoro dodge Kuma lightspeed attack pre ts, Niji use a lightspeed attack, Kizaru lightspeed attack get blocked and stopped multiple times by other characters. If we count statements as true, we have already a Lightspeed Pre TS Zoro who could dodge multiple Lightspeed attacks as you can see here:
So overall speed would be equal here if we count both statements as true, even then Katakuri has simple hax on his side(future sight) and has a simple one hit attack(Mogura) and a far far far stronger Ap then Meruem.
The different is from Town/City lvl(Meruem) to Multi Mountain-Small Island lvl(Katakuri), the gap is too large.
Moria weaker then Katakuri perform a physical feat who easily overcome everyfeat which we see so far in Hunter x Hunter(physicalwise). Energywise we have a Franky who tank a huge mountain lvl nuke if we count such panels as right:
That explosion overcome multipletimes the nuke which Meruem tank, that is a mountain lvl nuke and Franky tank it.
Meruem had great potential as @Sentinel mentioned before, but the problem is that he never get the chance to show his all out feat.
Also we donยดt have compare feats who could make it for as easy, if we only would get the dark continent, we could place Meruem better. But right now Meruem league is similar as All For one of Boku no hero, overall it make more sense to compare a verse as Hunter x Hunter with Boku no Hero and not One piece(who is leagues above).
The Characters in the manga state that it is light speed thus, we must believe it is light speed. Kizaru's Databook further reinforces the fact that his attacks are indeed light speed.
You're making a mistake in questioning why authors in creative mediums like manga, comics, games, tv etc aren't making it more explicit about how impressive the feats a character performs is. Take God of War for example. Kratos is casually planet level but we don't see him busting planets with each attack in the God of War Games. Thats because it would be impossible to show this and reinforce this fact every single time.
We see OP characters dodge lightning and attacks as fast or faster than lightning. The feats are too consistent when approached from a logical perspective to deny. There are simply too many feats which I don't have the time to pull for you to show that OP characters have murdered the speed of sound since as far back as whiskey peak maybe even earlier.
Yamamoto's claim is not bullshit. His sword is as hot as the sun and hotter. When a character makes a claim, you have to take context into account. How do the characters around them react? How consistent is that claim to the power system of the world? It is a fact that Yamamoto's sword is fucking hot and the moment he uses Bankai threatens to destroy the human world by just release.
The same thing applies in OP. We see many characters proclaim certain feats. The reaction of the world and the story backs up these feats. Luffy has inhmane lifting feats. Remember when he lifted a solid ball of insanely dense gold?
H x H is not One Piece. Oda is a shitter and is not explicit enough about his power system but we have enough feats to roughly estimate how fast and strong OP characters are in regards to overall powerscaling.
Togashi is rather explicit about almost everything in his power system. There are only a few instances where speed is made explicit in H x H and those instances are to hype characters.
The first is Netero who the narrator states that when he had come down from the mountain, his hands were faster than sound.
The second is in the recent arc with the succession war in which Prince Halkenburg's aura is quantified in which they state that if someone with that amount of aura is to release an emission blast, due to the sheer amount of aura and power, it would exceed the speed of sound.
These instances are to highlight that this speed (surpassing the speed of sound) is something very very impressive even amongst the strongest people in the world. Pre-Rose Meruem was getting blitzed into the ground by Netero who we can estimate to be be around 16x faster than sound with his attacks. Jumps in power even after his absorption of Pouf and Youpi is not insane enough to where he can keep up with OP characters who were casually pulling off these sorts of feats pre-time skip.
I have so much more to write because I really love H x H and I've read it over and over and over again but I need to get back to work so this is all I have to say.
You're making a mistake in questioning why authors in creative mediums like manga, comics, games, tv etc aren't making it more explicit about how impressive the feats a character performs is. Take God of War for example. Kratos is casually planet level but we don't see him busting planets with each attack in the God of War Games. Thats because it would be impossible to show this and reinforce this fact every single time.
We see OP characters dodge lightning and attacks as fast or faster than lightning. The feats are too consistent when approached from a logical perspective to deny. There are simply too many feats which I don't have the time to pull for you to show that OP characters have murdered the speed of sound since as far back as whiskey peak maybe even earlier.
Yamamoto's claim is not bullshit. His sword is as hot as the sun and hotter. When a character makes a claim, you have to take context into account. How do the characters around them react? How consistent is that claim to the power system of the world? It is a fact that Yamamoto's sword is fucking hot and the moment he uses Bankai threatens to destroy the human world by just release.
The same thing applies in OP. We see many characters proclaim certain feats. The reaction of the world and the story backs up these feats. Luffy has inhmane lifting feats. Remember when he lifted a solid ball of insanely dense gold?
H x H is not One Piece. Oda is a shitter and is not explicit enough about his power system but we have enough feats to roughly estimate how fast and strong OP characters are in regards to overall powerscaling.
Togashi is rather explicit about almost everything in his power system. There are only a few instances where speed is made explicit in H x H and those instances are to hype characters.
The first is Netero who the narrator states that when he had come down from the mountain, his hands were faster than sound.
The second is in the recent arc with the succession war in which Prince Halkenburg's aura is quantified in which they state that if someone with that amount of aura is to release an emission blast, due to the sheer amount of aura and power, it would exceed the speed of sound.
These instances are to highlight that this speed (surpassing the speed of sound) is something very very impressive even amongst the strongest people in the world. Pre-Rose Meruem was getting blitzed into the ground by Netero who we can estimate to be be around 16x faster than sound with his attacks. Jumps in power even after his absorption of Pouf and Youpi is not insane enough to where he can keep up with OP characters who were casually pulling off these sorts of feats pre-time skip.
I have so much more to write because I really love H x H and I've read it over and over and over again but I need to get back to work so this is all I have to say.
No! You are believing that people here hates Meruem only because they do not overrate him that much but Meruem is one of my favourite manga villains. Stop that shit.
Yonko/Admirals are rather continental (huge highball) and you believe Meruem vs Yonko/Admirals is a more fair match-up than Meruem vs Kata? I'm speechless.
Yonko/Admirals are rather continental (huge highball) and you believe Meruem vs Yonko/Admirals is a more fair match-up than Meruem vs Kata? I'm speechless.
when fighting Meruem , you can't be even a 1 sec careless or make a single mistake
when fighting katkuri ...
Luffy was careless more than 1000 times with no pay back
it's not cherrypicking ... it's using your eyes and maybe brain ...
and no
that didn' sum up my post ... in fact you cherrypicked what you wanted to see
when fighting katkuri ...
Luffy was careless more than 1000 times with no pay back it's not cherrypicking ... it's using your eyes and maybe brain ...
and no
that didn' sum up my post ... in fact you cherrypicked what you wanted to see
It's not a pointless wank. Katakuri can't beat Mereum.
What Katakuri can do with his FS?
Mereum has his own version of observation Haki + he adapts as the fight goes on.
Katakuri doesn't have a technique that could one-shot Mereum.
Mereum would speed blitz him or work on him for a few minutes before finishing him with the final attack or nuking him out of the existence.
Yes, I do.
What Katakuri can do with his FS?
Mereum has his own version of observation Haki + he adapts as the fight goes on.
Katakuri doesn't have a technique that could one-shot Mereum.
Mereum would speed blitz him or work on him for a few minutes before finishing him with the final attack or nuking him out of the existence.
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Yes, I do.
I couldn't quote Meruem or Kata's Vs Battles' profiles in the OP, so I quoted and linked them here:
Katakuri's Vs Battles Profile
Summary
The third of the Sweet Commanders to appear, Charlotte Katakuri is the second son of the Charlotte Family and the oldest of a set of fraternal triplets, his younger brothers being Daifuku and Oven. He is Totto Land's Minister of Flour, as well as the strongest of the Sweet Commanders, with a bounty exceeding one billion berries; he eliminates anyone who would dare cross his mother. He has eaten the Mochi Mochi no Mi, which allows him to turn any part of his body into extremely sticky mochi and manipulate it as he wishes. His greatest asset, however, is his incredibly refined Observation Haki, which even allows him to see slightly ahead into the future.
Powers and Stats
Tier: At least 7-A, possibly High 7-A
Name: Charlotte Katakuri
Origin: One Piece
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Classification: Pirate, Commander, Marksman, Human, Special Paramecia Devil Fruit User
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Large Size (Type 0 - 5.09m), Master Hand-to-Hand Combatant (He can easily out-perform opponents of this level of skill and has noted that it had been years since he took a hit directly), Technique Mimicry (Mimicked Luffy's fighting style and dominated him in a fist-fight), Expert Marksman and Spear Wielder, Proficient Haki user (Advanced Kenbunshoku Haki, Proficient Busoshoku Haki and Haoshoku Haki user), Candy Manipulation (Can transform into, create and manipulate mochi, an adhesive substance, as he pleases), Elemental Intangibility (Only in Paramecia form), Inorganic Physiology (Type 1. While he's turned into Mochi), Body Control and Shapeshifting (Capable of hardening his body with his paramecia powers. Can shift his Paramecia form to avoid incoming attacks. Increasing the range his limbs can reach, and alter their shape. He can also use his ability to wrap his body around his opponent's limbs, trapping them, and allowing him to attack with minimal retaliation), Duplication (He can also increase the number of limbs on his body, displaying up to two dozen arms and legs at once), Afterimage Creation, Size Manipulation and Statistics Amplification (Via increasing the muscle mass of his arms to briefly enhance his physical power as well as increase the size and mass of his mochi), Regeneration (High-Mid level, only in Paramecia-form. He recovered from being blown in half by an attack, and having most of his upper body blown away), Transmutation (Via Awakening. Allows him to turn inanimate objects into Mochi. This is limited to non-living things such as stone, buildings, etc.), Danmaku, Minor Fire Manipulation and Explosion Manipulation (via Grilled Mochi), Resistance to sound-based attacks (Can create earplugs made of mochi to cover his ears) and Fire Manipulation (Unaffected by Luffy's Red Hawk)
Attack Potency: At least Mountain level+ (Upscaled from easily overpowering Whole Cake Island Arc Luffy in power, and besting his Elephant Gun with his own replication of the attack), possibly Large Mountain level (Hailed as being the strongest of the Three Sweet Commanders, and could contend with and gradually deal damage to Bound-Man Luffy over 25 minutes of constant fighting).
Speed: Relativistic+ (Comparable to Bound-Man Luffy, though he only matched him after utilizing his Kenbunshoku Haki. Was able to compete with Snakeman and react to his attacks)
Lifting Strength: Unknown. Likely Class T via scaling
Striking Strength: At least Mountain Class+, Possibly Large Mountain Class (Stronger than Cracker and Gear 3rd Luffy. Capable of hurting Bound-Man Luffy)
Durability: At least Mountain level+ (Withstood numerous attacks from Gear 2nd and 3rd Luffy for upwards of 11 consecutive hours), possibly Large Mountain level (Withstood a brief beating from Bound-Man Luffy, but was visibly injured from the assault)
Stamina: Extremely High (was unphased after receiving injuries via blunt trauma from Gear 4th Luffy, and could continue a marathon fight with him for hours while using both Kenbunshoku and Busoshoku Haki nonstop without the need to rest, remaining invigorated. During the fight, he also endured a fatal injury, impaling himself completely through the side of his torso, damaging his intestines and stomach to some extent, and causing severe bleeding while only showing small signs of pain and fatigue before fighting again)
Range: Extended melee range to several meters due to his size. At least Tens of meters with his body while using his Paremecia Powers (his fist traveled this distance when he punched Luffy into the ceiling of the Mirror world). At least tens of meters with his Jelly Beans
Standard Equipment: Jelly Beans and trident โMoguraโ
Intelligence: High level of fighting ability. Displays creative and effective ways to immediately turn a situation into his favor, such as using his power to make earplugs for him and his entire family while Big Mom's screams were causing everyone to be stunned. Or when he used his power to plug up Bege's canons. He focuses on efficiency, aiming to destroy any possible threats before they can do anything. He was initially sensitive about his abnormal jaw and teeth and would become enraged should anyone mock him or call him a monster, but during his fight with Luffy, he began to embrace his monstrous appearance. He is very honorable when it comes to fighting opponents that make an impression on him, not tolerating an interference from his family that results him gaining an upper-hand against Luffy--leading him to impale himself in the side with his spear in order to equalize Luffy's handicap and went out of his way to KO his nearby allies for the interruption
Weaknesses: Standard Devil Fruit users weaknesses. His powers are weak against anything that can make him wet, though this is simply because it lowers the density of his body, turning him into a more liquid substance-making it hard to trap his opponents. It does not harm him in any way.
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
Haki: There are normally two types of Haki regular people can tap into: the Kenbunshoku Haki which allows individuals to sense the presence of others, and Busลshoku Haki which allows individuals to create an invisible armor around them. There is however a third type of Haki, Haลshoku Haki, that only a few individuals can use. Katakuri is one of these individuals.
Katakuri moving his body parts with his mochi powers to avoid hits from Luffy's Haki-imbued strikes, giving off the illusion that the attacks are phasing through him when he's merely dodging them.
Meruem's Vs Battles Profile
Summary
Meruem, also known as The King (็ใใ, ล), is the most powerful offspring of the Chimera Ant Queen and the King of the Chimera Ants. He is the main antagonist of the Chimera Ant arc.
Powers and Stats
Tier: At least Low 7-C | At least Low 7-B, possibly 7-B
Name: Meruem, Chimera Ant King, The King (็ใใ, ล)
Origin: Hunter X Hunter
Gender: Male
Age: 40 days
Classification: Chimera Ant King, Nen Practitioner
Powers and Abilities:
All previous abilities on a much higher level. Enhanced Psychometry with En (En creates a barrier that allows users to feel the shape and movement of anything in the radius. Meruem's En is by far the most powerful, as it allows him to measure the shape, quality, emotion, and other informational content about the things the photons interact with), Improved Fear Manipulation and Enhanced Madness Manipulation (Type 3; Caused Welfin to physically age a hundred years from the fear he was feeling and also experience hallucinations, despite Welfin being a powerful Nen user in his own right. Meruem's Ren was so strong that his overprotective Royal Guards believed he was invincible and could beat anyone by sheer aura quantity alone. Meruem's murderous aura was able to petrify even Pouf), Body Control, Transformation and Flight (With Metamorphosis), Rage Power, Transformation, Berserk Mode, Self-Destruction (Possibly gained all of Youpi's powers after absorbing him due to how his power works), Energy Projection (With Rage Blast, Meruem can fire a concentrated blast of aura), Light Manipulation, Power Modification and Power Bestowal (Meruem can personally prepare an individual with a Nen ability that matches their talents and teach the individual how to use it. Shaiapouf did this for various Squadron Leaders: Leol, Cheetu, Welfin, Bloster and also to the Hunter Palm. He does this by enveloping the target in a cocoon. He planned on doing this to at least 50,000 soldiers, Meruem most likely absorbed his ability to do this), Biological Manipulation (The cocoon turns humans into Chimera Ant hybrids), Mind Manipulation, Willpower Manipulation, Limited Empathic Manipulation, Transmutation and Telepathy (Can transmute his aura into photons. It has the same effect as Shaiapouf's Spiritual Massage, and he can detect lies with it. Possibly gained all of Pouf's powers after absorbing him due to how his power works; can read the minds of those his aura has touched and detected lies), Duplication, Size Manipulation, Regeneration (High-Mid for the Core. Meruem's core, which is the size of a Bee, must be destroyed to kill him. High for his clones; Meruem's clones must be destroyed at the atomic level otherwise they will be able to reform continuously), Small Size (Type 2; The Core can shrink to the size of a Bee, Type 5 for clones which can split up to be nano-size), Shapeshifting (With Body Reconstruction, Meruem can alter his face, physique, and even his voice), Poison Inducement (Those who have prolonged contact with him also become poisoned), Resistance to Poison Manipulation (Resisted the poison from the Rose Bomb for some time which is quite possibly the most powerful poison known to man, although he ultimately succumbed), Electricity Manipulation and Magma Manipulation (Should gain Youpi's resistances after absorbing him)
Attack Potency: At least Small Town level (As Meruem is the strongest character in the series, Meruem is superior to other Chimera Ants, including his three royal guards: Menthuthuyoupi, Neferpitou, and Shaiapouf. Destroyed his own arm when he felt humiliated as a show of respect. Severed Netero's arm and leg) | At least Small City level (A casual Rage Blast is this powerful), possibly City level (His show of Ren was so intense that Knuckle stated military power at the state level would be needed to match his power)
Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Far superior to the likes of Neferpitou and Cheetu. Right after being born, Meruem blitzed two Squadron Leaders. The Royal Guards themselves were unable to react to Meruem's tail. Casually walked past Netero and Zeno without them noticing. In his fight with Netero, Meruem exchanged hundreds and thousands of blows in under a minute. Meruem stated that the only thing faster than him was Netero's hand movement) | Massively Hypersonic (He is much faster than before and his flight speed is three times faster than that of Shaiapouf)
Lifting Strength: Class M (With Ren, Meruem was able to push back two of the Guanyin Bodhisattva's hands) | Class M (Stronger than before)
Striking Strength: At least Small Town Class (Casually one-shot Squadron Leaders seconds after birth. Punched a hole into the nest with enough force to shake the entire construct) | At least Small City Class, possibly City Class
Durability: At least Small Town level (Netero could not do any significant damage to him, only feeling a dull pain after thousands of strikes. Even the Zero Hand, his most powerful attack, only gashed the King. He also barely survived the detonation of the Rose bomb) | At least Small City level, possibly City level (His durability increased)
Stamina: Immensely High (Is unfathomably superior to any rookie Hunter, who can run 80 Kilometers across different terrains without breaking a sweat. Meruem defeated the Shogi and Go champions of East Gorteau without resting between matches, and did not show the slightest hint of physical or mental fatigue even after playing Gungi with Komugi for three days straight. He was so engrossed in their games that he apparently ate nothing for six days, and still seemed unaffected. As stated in durability, Meruem was able to take thousands of attacks from Netero with minimal damage to his person while continuously attacking him)
Range: Extended Melee Range. Three kilometers with Nen techniques | Extended Melee Range. Tens of kilometers with Nen techniques
Standard Equipment: None Notable
Intelligence: Extraordinary Genius. Meruem was able to speak before even being born. Meruem possesses immense memory and analytical skills, being able to learn and master nearly anything he comes across in a short period. He was able to defeat world champions at various games just after reading a rule book and playing a few matches. He is capable of examining multiple scenarios in a matter of seconds. He excels at identifying his opponent's "rhythm," the unconscious bias that guides their choices, and at disrupting it or turning it against them, not only gaining insight in their thought process but also managing to exploit it for his benefit. Playing Gungi with Komugi elevated his pattern-recognition skills to an ability similar to precognition. It is thanks to this faculty that he was able to penetrate Netero's otherwise impregnable defense, even predicting what body parts he would be able to cut off in advance.
Weaknesses: After meeting and making close bonds with Komugi, he slowly lost his cruel and violent nature and was implied to try to coexist peacefully with humans. Zetsu involves keeping one's aura exclusively in the body, it makes a Nen user more vulnerable to physical, and nen attacks, because one doesn't have any aura on the outside of one's body to protect oneself. | Same as before, Meruem suffers poisoning from the Miniature Rose Bomb, and will slowly die after an extended period because of it.
Notable Skills/Techniques:
Nen: Meruem is the most powerful Nen user in the series, being able to use all the basic and advanced techniques to vast degrees. He is a Specialist and likely extremely proficient in every single Nen category. However, due to his overpowering nature, he doesn't even need to create his own Hatsu, which is unfortunate given his infinite potential.
Katakuri's Vs Battles Profile
Katakuri's Vs Battles Profile said:
Summary
The third of the Sweet Commanders to appear, Charlotte Katakuri is the second son of the Charlotte Family and the oldest of a set of fraternal triplets, his younger brothers being Daifuku and Oven. He is Totto Land's Minister of Flour, as well as the strongest of the Sweet Commanders, with a bounty exceeding one billion berries; he eliminates anyone who would dare cross his mother. He has eaten the Mochi Mochi no Mi, which allows him to turn any part of his body into extremely sticky mochi and manipulate it as he wishes. His greatest asset, however, is his incredibly refined Observation Haki, which even allows him to see slightly ahead into the future.
Powers and Stats
Tier: At least 7-A, possibly High 7-A
Name: Charlotte Katakuri
Origin: One Piece
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Classification: Pirate, Commander, Marksman, Human, Special Paramecia Devil Fruit User
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Large Size (Type 0 - 5.09m), Master Hand-to-Hand Combatant (He can easily out-perform opponents of this level of skill and has noted that it had been years since he took a hit directly), Technique Mimicry (Mimicked Luffy's fighting style and dominated him in a fist-fight), Expert Marksman and Spear Wielder, Proficient Haki user (Advanced Kenbunshoku Haki, Proficient Busoshoku Haki and Haoshoku Haki user), Candy Manipulation (Can transform into, create and manipulate mochi, an adhesive substance, as he pleases), Elemental Intangibility (Only in Paramecia form), Inorganic Physiology (Type 1. While he's turned into Mochi), Body Control and Shapeshifting (Capable of hardening his body with his paramecia powers. Can shift his Paramecia form to avoid incoming attacks. Increasing the range his limbs can reach, and alter their shape. He can also use his ability to wrap his body around his opponent's limbs, trapping them, and allowing him to attack with minimal retaliation), Duplication (He can also increase the number of limbs on his body, displaying up to two dozen arms and legs at once), Afterimage Creation, Size Manipulation and Statistics Amplification (Via increasing the muscle mass of his arms to briefly enhance his physical power as well as increase the size and mass of his mochi), Regeneration (High-Mid level, only in Paramecia-form. He recovered from being blown in half by an attack, and having most of his upper body blown away), Transmutation (Via Awakening. Allows him to turn inanimate objects into Mochi. This is limited to non-living things such as stone, buildings, etc.), Danmaku, Minor Fire Manipulation and Explosion Manipulation (via Grilled Mochi), Resistance to sound-based attacks (Can create earplugs made of mochi to cover his ears) and Fire Manipulation (Unaffected by Luffy's Red Hawk)
Attack Potency: At least Mountain level+ (Upscaled from easily overpowering Whole Cake Island Arc Luffy in power, and besting his Elephant Gun with his own replication of the attack), possibly Large Mountain level (Hailed as being the strongest of the Three Sweet Commanders, and could contend with and gradually deal damage to Bound-Man Luffy over 25 minutes of constant fighting).
Speed: Relativistic+ (Comparable to Bound-Man Luffy, though he only matched him after utilizing his Kenbunshoku Haki. Was able to compete with Snakeman and react to his attacks)
Lifting Strength: Unknown. Likely Class T via scaling
Striking Strength: At least Mountain Class+, Possibly Large Mountain Class (Stronger than Cracker and Gear 3rd Luffy. Capable of hurting Bound-Man Luffy)
Durability: At least Mountain level+ (Withstood numerous attacks from Gear 2nd and 3rd Luffy for upwards of 11 consecutive hours), possibly Large Mountain level (Withstood a brief beating from Bound-Man Luffy, but was visibly injured from the assault)
Stamina: Extremely High (was unphased after receiving injuries via blunt trauma from Gear 4th Luffy, and could continue a marathon fight with him for hours while using both Kenbunshoku and Busoshoku Haki nonstop without the need to rest, remaining invigorated. During the fight, he also endured a fatal injury, impaling himself completely through the side of his torso, damaging his intestines and stomach to some extent, and causing severe bleeding while only showing small signs of pain and fatigue before fighting again)
Range: Extended melee range to several meters due to his size. At least Tens of meters with his body while using his Paremecia Powers (his fist traveled this distance when he punched Luffy into the ceiling of the Mirror world). At least tens of meters with his Jelly Beans
Standard Equipment: Jelly Beans and trident โMoguraโ
Intelligence: High level of fighting ability. Displays creative and effective ways to immediately turn a situation into his favor, such as using his power to make earplugs for him and his entire family while Big Mom's screams were causing everyone to be stunned. Or when he used his power to plug up Bege's canons. He focuses on efficiency, aiming to destroy any possible threats before they can do anything. He was initially sensitive about his abnormal jaw and teeth and would become enraged should anyone mock him or call him a monster, but during his fight with Luffy, he began to embrace his monstrous appearance. He is very honorable when it comes to fighting opponents that make an impression on him, not tolerating an interference from his family that results him gaining an upper-hand against Luffy--leading him to impale himself in the side with his spear in order to equalize Luffy's handicap and went out of his way to KO his nearby allies for the interruption
Weaknesses: Standard Devil Fruit users weaknesses. His powers are weak against anything that can make him wet, though this is simply because it lowers the density of his body, turning him into a more liquid substance-making it hard to trap his opponents. It does not harm him in any way.
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
Haki: There are normally two types of Haki regular people can tap into: the Kenbunshoku Haki which allows individuals to sense the presence of others, and Busลshoku Haki which allows individuals to create an invisible armor around them. There is however a third type of Haki, Haลshoku Haki, that only a few individuals can use. Katakuri is one of these individuals.
- Kenbunshoku Haki (Color of Observation or Mantra): Katakuri's level of application with this type of Haki is advanced. He is capable of actively seeing several seconds into the future with minimal effort. He can sense the presence of others from tens of Kilometers away.
- Busลshoku Haki (Color of Armaments): As with every user of Busoshoku, Katakuri is capable of applying invisible armor around his body, subtly increasing his defenses. Katakuri has shown some proficiency with Busoshoku despite being specialized in Kenbunshoku, capable of coating his body and weapon in Busoshoku: Koka and Bugyou that is powerful enough to outmatch Base Monkey D. Luffy's application. He has been shown capable of covering more than both of his arms in Koka, and can enhance his Devil Fruit power with it (Most notably his Muso Donut attacks).
- Haลshoku Haki (Color of the Conquering King): The ability to project one's will outwards, emitting an explosive shock-wave from the users body. Capable of causing those with lesser will or power to be knocked out or be placed in a seizure-induced state. While inexperienced users are restricted to intimidating one being or blindly knocking out any with weak wills around them, those with more expertise can pick out weak willed individuals in a large group to knock out. Can also be used as an AOE energy blast and to tame animals.
Katakuri moving his body parts with his mochi powers to avoid hits from Luffy's Haki-imbued strikes, giving off the illusion that the attacks are phasing through him when he's merely dodging them.
- Yanagi Mochi ("Willow Mochi"): Katakuri creates extra mochi legs and hits his opponent with the bottom of his foot.
- Mochi Tsuki ("Mochi Thrust"): While wielding his trident Mogura, Katakuri twists his mochi-arm in a screw-like fashion, and then releases the compression while thrusting forward, creating a powerful drilling thrust, capable of shattering walls and grounds.
- Kaku Mochi ("Square Mochi"): Katakuri shapes his hand into a square and covers it in Busoshoku Haki, increasing the density of his arms to the point where equal users of Busoshoku Haki receive damage from his strikes.
- Yaki Mochi ("Grilled Mochi"): Katakuri fires off one of his arms like a rocket, sending it out as a projectile imbued with Haki and flames. He then uses his Mochi powers to regenerate his arm.
- Zan Giri Mochi ("Sliced Mochi"): Katakuri changes his body's shape into that of a Donut and rolls at his opponent with incredible speed. Upon reaching his opponent, he follows up by reforming his body and using the whip-lash to swing his arm at an opponent in the form of a giant mace, dealing blunt and piercing damage, and also sticking onto the opponent before Katakuri spins several times with the opponent attached to his arm in order to disorientate them before slamming them into the ground with great force.
- Nagare Mochi ("Flowing Mochi"): Katakuri sends forth mochi in the form of a raging river, surrounding his opponent and entrapping them.
- Kagami Mochi ("Concentrated Mochi"): Using his awakened powers, Katakuri transforms the Mirro-World into mochi, enabling him to bend and flex the walls to converge on his opponent and bury them, suffocating them in the process.
- Amadare Mochi ("Raindrop Mochi"): Katakuri forms the walls of Mirro-World into tendrils and has them converge on his opponent with great force.
- Muso Donuts ("Peerless Donuts"): Katakuri summons many tendrils of mochi from the ground and loops them into the shapes of donuts. The name of this technique is a reflection of Katakuri's love for donuts. Katakuri can then manipulate the positioning of these "donuts" telekinetically to position them for his Chikara Mochi attack.
- Chikara Mochi ("Power Mochi"): Katakuri hardens the donut-shaped pieces of mochi and shapes them into arms, which are square-shaped similar to his Kaku Mochi technique and end with a fist. With a layer of mochi over his hands, he manipulates the mochi arms to act exactly like his actual arms. He then punches his opponent with considerable force.
- Mochi Ginchaku ("Mochi Singing Result"): Katakuri summons multiple Mochi donuts around his opponent, using his Chikara Mochi from multiple vectors simultaneously and then has them strike at his opponent. Katakuri throws his arm down once, which results in dozens of punches being thrown down simultaneously, efficient for landing multiple strikes with a single motion.
- Mochi Ginchaku ("Mochi Singing Result"): Katakuri summons multiple Mochi donuts around his opponent, using his Chikara Mochi from multiple vectors simultaneously and then has them strike at his opponent. Katakuri throws his arm down once, which results in dozens of punches being thrown down simultaneously, efficient for landing multiple strikes with a single motion.
Meruem's Vs Battles Profile
Meruem's Vs Battles Profile said:
Summary
Meruem, also known as The King (็ใใ, ล), is the most powerful offspring of the Chimera Ant Queen and the King of the Chimera Ants. He is the main antagonist of the Chimera Ant arc.
Powers and Stats
Tier: At least Low 7-C | At least Low 7-B, possibly 7-B
Name: Meruem, Chimera Ant King, The King (็ใใ, ล)
Origin: Hunter X Hunter
Gender: Male
Age: 40 days
Classification: Chimera Ant King, Nen Practitioner
Powers and Abilities:
All previous abilities on a much higher level. Enhanced Psychometry with En (En creates a barrier that allows users to feel the shape and movement of anything in the radius. Meruem's En is by far the most powerful, as it allows him to measure the shape, quality, emotion, and other informational content about the things the photons interact with), Improved Fear Manipulation and Enhanced Madness Manipulation (Type 3; Caused Welfin to physically age a hundred years from the fear he was feeling and also experience hallucinations, despite Welfin being a powerful Nen user in his own right. Meruem's Ren was so strong that his overprotective Royal Guards believed he was invincible and could beat anyone by sheer aura quantity alone. Meruem's murderous aura was able to petrify even Pouf), Body Control, Transformation and Flight (With Metamorphosis), Rage Power, Transformation, Berserk Mode, Self-Destruction (Possibly gained all of Youpi's powers after absorbing him due to how his power works), Energy Projection (With Rage Blast, Meruem can fire a concentrated blast of aura), Light Manipulation, Power Modification and Power Bestowal (Meruem can personally prepare an individual with a Nen ability that matches their talents and teach the individual how to use it. Shaiapouf did this for various Squadron Leaders: Leol, Cheetu, Welfin, Bloster and also to the Hunter Palm. He does this by enveloping the target in a cocoon. He planned on doing this to at least 50,000 soldiers, Meruem most likely absorbed his ability to do this), Biological Manipulation (The cocoon turns humans into Chimera Ant hybrids), Mind Manipulation, Willpower Manipulation, Limited Empathic Manipulation, Transmutation and Telepathy (Can transmute his aura into photons. It has the same effect as Shaiapouf's Spiritual Massage, and he can detect lies with it. Possibly gained all of Pouf's powers after absorbing him due to how his power works; can read the minds of those his aura has touched and detected lies), Duplication, Size Manipulation, Regeneration (High-Mid for the Core. Meruem's core, which is the size of a Bee, must be destroyed to kill him. High for his clones; Meruem's clones must be destroyed at the atomic level otherwise they will be able to reform continuously), Small Size (Type 2; The Core can shrink to the size of a Bee, Type 5 for clones which can split up to be nano-size), Shapeshifting (With Body Reconstruction, Meruem can alter his face, physique, and even his voice), Poison Inducement (Those who have prolonged contact with him also become poisoned), Resistance to Poison Manipulation (Resisted the poison from the Rose Bomb for some time which is quite possibly the most powerful poison known to man, although he ultimately succumbed), Electricity Manipulation and Magma Manipulation (Should gain Youpi's resistances after absorbing him)
Attack Potency: At least Small Town level (As Meruem is the strongest character in the series, Meruem is superior to other Chimera Ants, including his three royal guards: Menthuthuyoupi, Neferpitou, and Shaiapouf. Destroyed his own arm when he felt humiliated as a show of respect. Severed Netero's arm and leg) | At least Small City level (A casual Rage Blast is this powerful), possibly City level (His show of Ren was so intense that Knuckle stated military power at the state level would be needed to match his power)
Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Far superior to the likes of Neferpitou and Cheetu. Right after being born, Meruem blitzed two Squadron Leaders. The Royal Guards themselves were unable to react to Meruem's tail. Casually walked past Netero and Zeno without them noticing. In his fight with Netero, Meruem exchanged hundreds and thousands of blows in under a minute. Meruem stated that the only thing faster than him was Netero's hand movement) | Massively Hypersonic (He is much faster than before and his flight speed is three times faster than that of Shaiapouf)
Lifting Strength: Class M (With Ren, Meruem was able to push back two of the Guanyin Bodhisattva's hands) | Class M (Stronger than before)
Striking Strength: At least Small Town Class (Casually one-shot Squadron Leaders seconds after birth. Punched a hole into the nest with enough force to shake the entire construct) | At least Small City Class, possibly City Class
Durability: At least Small Town level (Netero could not do any significant damage to him, only feeling a dull pain after thousands of strikes. Even the Zero Hand, his most powerful attack, only gashed the King. He also barely survived the detonation of the Rose bomb) | At least Small City level, possibly City level (His durability increased)
Stamina: Immensely High (Is unfathomably superior to any rookie Hunter, who can run 80 Kilometers across different terrains without breaking a sweat. Meruem defeated the Shogi and Go champions of East Gorteau without resting between matches, and did not show the slightest hint of physical or mental fatigue even after playing Gungi with Komugi for three days straight. He was so engrossed in their games that he apparently ate nothing for six days, and still seemed unaffected. As stated in durability, Meruem was able to take thousands of attacks from Netero with minimal damage to his person while continuously attacking him)
Range: Extended Melee Range. Three kilometers with Nen techniques | Extended Melee Range. Tens of kilometers with Nen techniques
Standard Equipment: None Notable
Intelligence: Extraordinary Genius. Meruem was able to speak before even being born. Meruem possesses immense memory and analytical skills, being able to learn and master nearly anything he comes across in a short period. He was able to defeat world champions at various games just after reading a rule book and playing a few matches. He is capable of examining multiple scenarios in a matter of seconds. He excels at identifying his opponent's "rhythm," the unconscious bias that guides their choices, and at disrupting it or turning it against them, not only gaining insight in their thought process but also managing to exploit it for his benefit. Playing Gungi with Komugi elevated his pattern-recognition skills to an ability similar to precognition. It is thanks to this faculty that he was able to penetrate Netero's otherwise impregnable defense, even predicting what body parts he would be able to cut off in advance.
Weaknesses: After meeting and making close bonds with Komugi, he slowly lost his cruel and violent nature and was implied to try to coexist peacefully with humans. Zetsu involves keeping one's aura exclusively in the body, it makes a Nen user more vulnerable to physical, and nen attacks, because one doesn't have any aura on the outside of one's body to protect oneself. | Same as before, Meruem suffers poisoning from the Miniature Rose Bomb, and will slowly die after an extended period because of it.
Notable Skills/Techniques:
Nen: Meruem is the most powerful Nen user in the series, being able to use all the basic and advanced techniques to vast degrees. He is a Specialist and likely extremely proficient in every single Nen category. However, due to his overpowering nature, he doesn't even need to create his own Hatsu, which is unfortunate given his infinite potential.
- Aura Synthesis: Meruem's initial ability gives him strength through consumption. Meruem's aura grows every time he devours a user of Nen, with their aura synthesizing to his own. Upon consuming two of his royal guards, Pouf and Youpi, he also gained some of their Hatsu. The amount of someone's body he needs to consume to do this is unknown, although it is likely he must absorb much of their aura to obtain their Hatsu.
- Metamorphosis: Meruem can give himself wings, extra eyes, and limbs, and even recompose his entire body structure utilizing aura.
- Rage Blast: Meruem can use Menthuthuyoupi's ability to use "Rage" in a concentrated blast of aura.
- Photon: He can use and evolve Shaiapouf's ability of Spiritual Message. This secondary ability allows him to transmute his aura into photons. Each photon maintains his aura, allowing Meruem to measure the shape, quality, emotion, and other informational content about the things the photons interact with. As stated by Welfin and Shaiapouf, he can know everything vaguely, even lies. The precision of the information he can gather depends on the number of photons directed at the object of interest. Meruem deploys these photons in his En in a flash and then can instantly go to anything the photons reach.
Last thing I'll say for now is that the Meruem we know and have feats for relies on his raw power.
1. Insane natural durability that is further bolstered by his very high aura power.
2. Very fast in comparison to other characters not named Netero
3. Very Strong being able to decapitate other ants with a tail swing and rip off Netero's limbs with a single attack.
The main problem is that where he excels, OP characters have him beat in feats by spades.
A better matchup with actual worthy discussion is:
Chrollo with preparation time and given a set amount of Hatsu's to pick from any character in the H x H verse. With how smart Chrollo is and how creative he is, and how hax and unblock able (once the conditions have been fulfilled) some Nen abilities are, you can actually make a real case for Chrollo winning the fight.
@Cinera maybe this would be a better thread because I'm sure more people would be willing to actually entertain Chrollo winning under such circumstances.
1. Insane natural durability that is further bolstered by his very high aura power.
2. Very fast in comparison to other characters not named Netero
3. Very Strong being able to decapitate other ants with a tail swing and rip off Netero's limbs with a single attack.
The main problem is that where he excels, OP characters have him beat in feats by spades.
A better matchup with actual worthy discussion is:
Chrollo with preparation time and given a set amount of Hatsu's to pick from any character in the H x H verse. With how smart Chrollo is and how creative he is, and how hax and unblock able (once the conditions have been fulfilled) some Nen abilities are, you can actually make a real case for Chrollo winning the fight.
@Cinera maybe this would be a better thread because I'm sure more people would be willing to actually entertain Chrollo winning under such circumstances.
Based on what?
"As the fight goes on", you probably mean when the fight is already going to end soon, lol.
There won't be much for Meruem to adapt on Katakuri.
City level AP vs small island level AP...
Based on what?
How?!
What's his "final attack" and how does that finish Katakuri?
Nuking him out of the existence? Once again, city level vs small island level...
"As the fight goes on", you probably mean when the fight is already going to end soon, lol.
There won't be much for Meruem to adapt on Katakuri.
City level AP vs small island level AP...
Based on what?
How?!
What's his "final attack" and how does that finish Katakuri?
Nuking him out of the existence? Once again, city level vs small island level...
when fighting Meruem , you can't be even a 1 sec careless or make a single mistake
when fighting katkuri ...Luffy was careless more than 1000 times with no pay back
it's not cherrypicking ... it's using your eyes and maybe brain ...
and no
that didn' sum up my post ... in fact you cherrypicked what you wanted to see
when fighting katkuri ...
Luffy was careless more than 1000 times with no pay backit's not cherrypicking ... it's using your eyes and maybe brain ...
and no
that didn' sum up my post ... in fact you cherrypicked what you wanted to see
when fighting Meruem ?
This talk does not include everyone
Only the old man and his speed capabilities
Mereum would destroy Chrollo. No matter what strategy he makes.
I dont understand why your giving other peoples feats to Katakuri. Katakuri has shown his entire moveset, and it is below Mereum. Why do you keep on giving him the benefit of the doubt ?
Kuma's feat isnt LS. This has been debunked 1 billion times
I dont understand why your giving other peoples feats to Katakuri. Katakuri has shown his entire moveset, and it is below Mereum. Why do you keep on giving him the benefit of the doubt ?
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Okay then let take the lightspeed argument as right, what happen to One piece Lightspeed feats?
Zoro dodge Kuma lightspeed attack pre ts, Niji use a lightspeed attack, Kizaru lightspeed attack get blocked and stopped multiple times by other characters. If we count statements as true, we have already a Lightspeed Pre TS Zoro who could dodge multiple Lightspeed attacks as you can see here:
So overall speed would be equal here if we count both statements as true, even then Katakuri has simple hax on his side(future sight) and has a simple one hit attack(Mogura) and a far far far stronger Ap then Meruem.
The different is from Town/City lvl(Meruem) to Multi Mountain-Small Island lvl(Katakuri), the gap is too large.
Moria weaker then Katakuri perform a physical feat who easily overcome everyfeat which we see so far in Hunter x Hunter(physicalwise). Energywise we have a Franky who tank a huge mountain lvl nuke if we count such panels as right:
That explosion overcome multipletimes the nuke which Meruem tank, that is a mountain lvl nuke and Franky tank it.
Meruem had great potential as @Sentinel mentioned before, but the problem is that he never get the chance to show his all out feat.
Also we donยดt have compare feats who could make it for as easy, if we only would get the dark continent, we could place Meruem better. But right now Meruem league is similar as All For one of Boku no hero, overall it make more sense to compare a verse as Hunter x Hunter with Boku no Hero and not One piece(who is leagues above).
Zoro dodge Kuma lightspeed attack pre ts, Niji use a lightspeed attack, Kizaru lightspeed attack get blocked and stopped multiple times by other characters. If we count statements as true, we have already a Lightspeed Pre TS Zoro who could dodge multiple Lightspeed attacks as you can see here:
So overall speed would be equal here if we count both statements as true, even then Katakuri has simple hax on his side(future sight) and has a simple one hit attack(Mogura) and a far far far stronger Ap then Meruem.
The different is from Town/City lvl(Meruem) to Multi Mountain-Small Island lvl(Katakuri), the gap is too large.
Moria weaker then Katakuri perform a physical feat who easily overcome everyfeat which we see so far in Hunter x Hunter(physicalwise). Energywise we have a Franky who tank a huge mountain lvl nuke if we count such panels as right:
That explosion overcome multipletimes the nuke which Meruem tank, that is a mountain lvl nuke and Franky tank it.
Meruem had great potential as @Sentinel mentioned before, but the problem is that he never get the chance to show his all out feat.
Also we donยดt have compare feats who could make it for as easy, if we only would get the dark continent, we could place Meruem better. But right now Meruem league is similar as All For one of Boku no hero, overall it make more sense to compare a verse as Hunter x Hunter with Boku no Hero and not One piece(who is leagues above).
Why? Could you explain?
Irrelevant.
This is Katakuri and he is known for being extremely cautious.
It is.
You do not have a brain.
And yes.
What did I cherrypick here?
You are disregarding One Piece speed feats for stupid reasons (taking PIS moments as legit) whilst you are saying that Meruem's speed is real.
Irrelevant.
This is Katakuri and he is known for being extremely cautious.
It is.
You do not have a brain.
And yes.
What did I cherrypick here?
You are disregarding One Piece speed feats for stupid reasons (taking PIS moments as legit) whilst you are saying that Meruem's speed is real.