Powers & Abilities Power Ups
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LUFFY trains his CoO in the fightYou "he got it without doing anything "
Enma a Gifter PU, new sword
You "nah it isn't but RS is PU "
A PU is anything powerful you create or train for or get as gift
Take RS away and Sanji loses what?
Simple answers, no headcanon.
Anything that involves a particular character becoming stronger, more capable than they were prior. It can be a permanent affair like training, or temporary like a transformation.
When a character levels up in an RPG, they are essentially powering up. Or when they are equipped better accessories, fed stat boosting nutrients, etc.
When a character levels up in an RPG, they are essentially powering up. Or when they are equipped better accessories, fed stat boosting nutrients, etc.
LUFFY trains his CoO in the fightYou "he got it without doing anything "
Enma a Gifter PU, new sword
You "nah it isn't but RS is PU "
A PU is anything powerful you create or train for or get as gift
And by the way when oden wounded kaido, what enma did more than ame ? Nothing !!
Luffy trained his COO but FS he got it from no where like the way zoro learnt how to cut steel. Just at one moment, they felt it and unlocked it!
That's a instant PU! Become strong in brief moment, but i should be careful with you, technical terms and complexe situation are too hard for you to understand.
J
Take Enma away and Zoro loses what?
Take RS away and Sanji loses what?
Simple answers, no headcanon.
Take RS away and Sanji loses what?
Simple answers, no headcanon.
Zoro loses a sword and power
and we know how 2 swords zoro cant beat anyone strong
He needs a 3rd weapon to always win against dudes like Pica Kamazou
Even gyukumaru.
Take away RS, Sanji loses nothing except durability and invisibility.
He was already fast and quick, he has fires
Sanji can tag Vets without RS and not lose
PU is anything that makes you stronger
Enma is a PU whether you hate it or not.
Give him a replacement sword, lol.
What power is he losing?
What is Zoro capable of with Enma that he is incapable without?
Enma isnt a PU lol. Haki training is but the specific training to get used to Enma has yet to be shown what kind of PU it is, if it is.
What did Enma do that Ame didnt? Whether you hate it or not, it didnt do anything differently and never cut more than the other sword.
What power is he losing?
What is Zoro capable of with Enma that he is incapable without?
Enma isnt a PU lol. Haki training is but the specific training to get used to Enma has yet to be shown what kind of PU it is, if it is.
What did Enma do that Ame didnt? Whether you hate it or not, it didnt do anything differently and never cut more than the other sword.
T
both are power ups.
since it is a hot topic already I will stick to Enma as an example.
Enma itself is not a power up compared to Shusui. one could even say it is a downgrade depending on how they view black blades (I for one say they are equally powerful).
the ryou mastery you have to gain by TRAINING to even use Enma is a power up though.
Enma is not a power up.
training to use it is a power up. (NOTE: Zoro forces the ryou back seconds after receiving Enma. Zoro already had exceptional ryou mastery at this point)
as it is usually compared with the RS I will stick with this here aswell.
the RS itself is a powerup. it increases almost all stats without the need for training. it automatically makes the user stronger.
now, you can also train to use the RS better and increase the power you gain through it, but that is another seperate power up again.
the RS is a power up.
training to use the RS better is a power up.
since it is a hot topic already I will stick to Enma as an example.
Enma itself is not a power up compared to Shusui. one could even say it is a downgrade depending on how they view black blades (I for one say they are equally powerful).
the ryou mastery you have to gain by TRAINING to even use Enma is a power up though.
Enma is not a power up.
training to use it is a power up. (NOTE: Zoro forces the ryou back seconds after receiving Enma. Zoro already had exceptional ryou mastery at this point)
as it is usually compared with the RS I will stick with this here aswell.
the RS itself is a powerup. it increases almost all stats without the need for training. it automatically makes the user stronger.
now, you can also train to use the RS better and increase the power you gain through it, but that is another seperate power up again.
the RS is a power up.
training to use the RS better is a power up.
T
why? the effect is what matters not how it came to be.
there is hardly a character that would pass up on a free power up.
Shiryu took the suke cause it would make him stronger, even without training. most df make you stronger without training.
if Luffy utterly failed to utilize his gomu he would still be resistant to blunt force.
the only issue I have is if the power up is cheap.
what I mean with that is that the person receiving it did not have to work towards it.
Sabo had to fight his way to the mera for example. Doffy had to distringuish himself before Trebol and the rest. Zoro bet his luck vs a curse to impress the shop owner and got Tsubashiri for it. even Usopp trained his marksmanship and focus to finally obtain CoO.
I currently can not think of a single power up that was given to a character that was completely without any work at all.
maybe Aizas CoO since she just got it as an infant for no apparent reason. and that could be considered a power she had and not a power up so, meh.
to me the magnitude of effort matters imo.
easier power ups are bordering on asspulls and I generally dislike them. G2/G3 for example.
think up a concept and your body can do it. yeah right... lame! DJ and Ashura? same deal.
BOAT? a great power up. years of dedicated training until Zoro finally figured out how to do it (downside here, no foreshadowing).
there is hardly a character that would pass up on a free power up.
Shiryu took the suke cause it would make him stronger, even without training. most df make you stronger without training.
if Luffy utterly failed to utilize his gomu he would still be resistant to blunt force.
the only issue I have is if the power up is cheap.
what I mean with that is that the person receiving it did not have to work towards it.
Sabo had to fight his way to the mera for example. Doffy had to distringuish himself before Trebol and the rest. Zoro bet his luck vs a curse to impress the shop owner and got Tsubashiri for it. even Usopp trained his marksmanship and focus to finally obtain CoO.
I currently can not think of a single power up that was given to a character that was completely without any work at all.
maybe Aizas CoO since she just got it as an infant for no apparent reason. and that could be considered a power she had and not a power up so, meh.
to me the magnitude of effort matters imo.
easier power ups are bordering on asspulls and I generally dislike them. G2/G3 for example.
think up a concept and your body can do it. yeah right... lame! DJ and Ashura? same deal.
BOAT? a great power up. years of dedicated training until Zoro finally figured out how to do it (downside here, no foreshadowing).
T
I am not convinced that Name gets to keep Zeus. its pretty cheap though I agree.
RS is hard to say for me. he somehow worked for it by putting himself in danger and saving his family members from certain death, but on the other hand it seems way too strong for what he had to do to get it.
for me, Zeus is garbage PU while RS is sort of acceptable I guess.
RS is hard to say for me. he somehow worked for it by putting himself in danger and saving his family members from certain death, but on the other hand it seems way too strong for what he had to do to get it.
for me, Zeus is garbage PU while RS is sort of acceptable I guess.
I don't think it is fair to say Nami got Zeus doing no work. To have him she used Weatheria technology, that she only had the authorization to use in battle after training & studying during 2 years (Her mentor was against it at first)+ finding the process to incorporate them into her weapon (she could already use weather balls before Franky & Usopp improved her CT in zou). Without that work = no zeus .
She didnt sat on her ass and got gifted Zeus doing nothing in wci either, she put herself in danger going in the middle of an emperor HQ, fought a yonkou commander, fought an emperor army, got captured, pursued by an emperor. Stealing the weapon of someone stronger also fit perfectly with mischevious character.
About Sanji and RS, he might not have trained for it but he also risked his life saving a family that treated like him the worst trash ever before getting it, he got rewarded for being morally upright. Most people would have abandoned their family. Sanji stayed true to his values and that's why he got the RS. Is it undeserved? Not from my point of view
And honestly they are pirates with different dreams, I welcome them getting stronger through unorthodox way. I agree that someone like Zoro, being a primary fighter and dreaming to be the world strongest should improve in a more classical way, but the others I couldn't care less as long it makes some sense in universe. I even welcome the diversity
To answer the original question, to me a power up is has nothing with being handed or not simply something (a new transformation , a new tool) that give a clear boost to the fighter
Things like Gear 2, Diable Jambe are power up but they weren't handed.
About Sanji and RS, he might not have trained for it but he also risked his life saving a family that treated like him the worst trash ever before getting it, he got rewarded for being morally upright. Most people would have abandoned their family. Sanji stayed true to his values and that's why he got the RS. Is it undeserved? Not from my point of view
And honestly they are pirates with different dreams, I welcome them getting stronger through unorthodox way. I agree that someone like Zoro, being a primary fighter and dreaming to be the world strongest should improve in a more classical way, but the others I couldn't care less as long it makes some sense in universe. I even welcome the diversity
To answer the original question, to me a power up is has nothing with being handed or not simply something (a new transformation , a new tool) that give a clear boost to the fighter
Things like Gear 2, Diable Jambe are power up but they weren't handed.
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Usopp could benefit from more weapons. The Green Pops are effective, although he may need more than just them.
Robin I thought could benefit from using weapons like the old days. And I mean more than just the knives she threw in the past.
For Chopper, he still has an open slot for a 6th Rumble Ball form since Arm Point and Jumping Point was combined for Kung Fu Point. The question is what will that form be.
Robin I thought could benefit from using weapons like the old days. And I mean more than just the knives she threw in the past.
For Chopper, he still has an open slot for a 6th Rumble Ball form since Arm Point and Jumping Point was combined for Kung Fu Point. The question is what will that form be.