Powers & Abilities Pre-Wano Luffy CoA vs Zoro CoA
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It actually does when the attack power behind it is sufficient enough to. This is something established since Pre timeskip with Boa sisters.
Ulti is a bad example anyway, the AP physically overpowered Luffy's body, but all it did was give him a headache. The fact that that's all she could manage to do actually proves his Haki is strong, not the opposite lmao.
Ulti is a bad example anyway, the AP physically overpowered Luffy's body, but all it did was give him a headache. The fact that that's all she could manage to do actually proves his Haki is strong, not the opposite lmao.
ulti never broke luffys haki why are you making stuff up?
like i already said, luffy is weaker to cutting/piercing attacks than any other character...which is the only reason hody bit him in base form.
this doesn't even matter anywa because hes already deflected stronger attacks from doffy especially in gear 4.
like i already said, luffy is weaker to cutting/piercing attacks than any other character...which is the only reason hody bit him in base form.
this doesn't even matter anywa because hes already deflected stronger attacks from doffy especially in gear 4.
wait wheres the blood?
https://ibb.co/bbWZBn7
https://ibb.co/WG5cDh0
https://ibb.co/stzMwHF
these panels above are AFTER he got hit
this panel was before he got hit
https://ibb.co/GVNxVS8
no difference...
you should really take youre own advice and read the manga
https://ibb.co/bbWZBn7
https://ibb.co/WG5cDh0
https://ibb.co/stzMwHF
these panels above are AFTER he got hit
this panel was before he got hit
https://ibb.co/GVNxVS8
no difference...
you should really take youre own advice and read the manga
Wow she jumped just above him...
Thats her in base.
His fruit is active.
Hers is not.
His fruit gives him immunity against blunt force yet she STILL broke his haki and drew blood with a headbutt.
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In the second pic. You can see the lighter scratches and the darker blood hes wiping off his head.
Thats her in base.
His fruit is active.
Hers is not.
His fruit gives him immunity against blunt force yet she STILL broke his haki and drew blood with a headbutt.
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In the second pic. You can see the lighter scratches and the darker blood hes wiping off his head.
It's not the haki my guy
It's the way he uses it
The part of your post that is bolded is why Luffy's application is better than their FBH
He mixes the 2, haki and DF, and gets increased hardness and elasticity
Pica cant mix the 2, meaning the way he uses it is less effective in certain respects
Pica hasn't been shown to mix the 2
You said this:
Its taken me a dozen posts to explain why I disagree and think that there is a difference
For further clarification pertaining to Luffy mixing the attributes of his DF with his haki and that being the stark difference in application between him and what Pica has shown is here
Luffy doesn't always maintain his rubbery features to that extent when using hardening, only in Gear 4 is that the case... at least from my understanding
Pica cannot do it even with FBH.
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Never had any nic on his blades before he learned CoA
Luffy has a blunt immunity that is similar to the relatively higher durability of Zoro's quality blades being better than his opponents and less likely to be damaged, haki aside
In the colored version, Luffy isn't using Black Koka hardening
It was stated that Oden didn't while he was alive, not that he couldn't. And it's not like Zoro has achieved this feat already
None of this logic is a sure fire way to objectively place Zoro over Luffy, and there exist no manga facts that imply that either. They use their haki in different ways and fight different opponents, other than Fujitora...
It's the way he uses it
The part of your post that is bolded is why Luffy's application is better than their FBH
He mixes the 2, haki and DF, and gets increased hardness and elasticity
Pica cant mix the 2, meaning the way he uses it is less effective in certain respects
Pica hasn't been shown to mix the 2
You said this:
Its taken me a dozen posts to explain why I disagree and think that there is a difference
For further clarification pertaining to Luffy mixing the attributes of his DF with his haki and that being the stark difference in application between him and what Pica has shown is here
Pica cannot do it even with FBH.
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Never had any nic on his blades before he learned CoA
Luffy has a blunt immunity that is similar to the relatively higher durability of Zoro's quality blades being better than his opponents and less likely to be damaged, haki aside
In the colored version, Luffy isn't using Black Koka hardening
It was stated that Oden didn't while he was alive, not that he couldn't. And it's not like Zoro has achieved this feat already
None of this logic is a sure fire way to objectively place Zoro over Luffy, and there exist no manga facts that imply that either. They use their haki in different ways and fight different opponents, other than Fujitora...
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True but for the most part i was just talking about base luffy. Tho its definitely impressive hes able to fuse his haki with his devil fruit in g4
Tbf its more than just coating his blade knew a technique that luffy didn't know. Something he had to be taught by hygoro tho he even surpassed it.
It doesn't mean his haki was stronger just he could do something luffy previously couldn't
Tbf its more than just coating his blade knew a technique that luffy didn't know. Something he had to be taught by hygoro tho he even surpassed it.
It doesn't mean his haki was stronger just he could do something luffy previously couldn't
Luffy wasn't shown to use black hardening against Hody
And Ulti just overpowered Luffy
This is what it looks like when someone's haki is inferior to another's
The physical strength and striking force applied here were similar enough that the result of the clash is obviously attributed to the difference in hardness
Ulti just used momentum coupled with her forte to push Luffy back, he even matched it momentarily
Next you will say Marco broke Kizaru's hardening
And Ulti just overpowered Luffy
This is what it looks like when someone's haki is inferior to another's
Ulti just used momentum coupled with her forte to push Luffy back, he even matched it momentarily
Next you will say Marco broke Kizaru's hardening
Okay? Lmao.
Jumping above gave her momentum. Her physical strength is still immense if her headbutts in base are sending Luffy through the floor. The argument doesnt change. She didnt overpower his Haki with Haki, it was her AP that sent him through the floor and that barely did shit to him.
That panel you posted of Luffy rubbing his forehead isnt blood, its his hair. She didnt break his Haki either the attack didnt do sustantial damage and yes, didnt bleed him. Even when you zoom in on the panel, its luffy's hair clear as day.
Luffy isnt immune to blunt force either, he's highly resistant to it. And he loses most of that resistance when CoA im general is used against his body lol. You're overexagerrating shit to make Luffy's CoA look alot weaker.
Jumping above gave her momentum. Her physical strength is still immense if her headbutts in base are sending Luffy through the floor. The argument doesnt change. She didnt overpower his Haki with Haki, it was her AP that sent him through the floor and that barely did shit to him.
That panel you posted of Luffy rubbing his forehead isnt blood, its his hair. She didnt break his Haki either the attack didnt do sustantial damage and yes, didnt bleed him. Even when you zoom in on the panel, its luffy's hair clear as day.
Luffy isnt immune to blunt force either, he's highly resistant to it. And he loses most of that resistance when CoA im general is used against his body lol. You're overexagerrating shit to make Luffy's CoA look alot weaker.