Doffy was able to sense Momonosuke (who was on the Sunny outside DR) even though Doffy was at the middle of Dressrosa.
This should show you that maybe the clear clear fruit is more special than simple camouflage
Powers & Abilities Queen proves that Shiryu’s DF is dogshit
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Doffy was able to sense Momonosuke (who was on the Sunny outside DR) even though Doffy was at the middle of Dressrosa.
This should show you that maybe the clear clear fruit is more special than simple camouflage
it isn't even that
its a shitty copy of judge's science which is a shitty copy of the suke suke no mi
Queen's invisibility is a knockoff of a knockoff
And shiryu can do more than just turn himself invisible
we know he can also turn other things invisible. Absalomb even turned an entire ship invisible.
We don't know the full extent of his powers and we don't know the extent to which observation haki counters him. Doffy couldn't find moria once absalomb made him invisible. He thought moria just vanished.
its a shitty copy of judge's science which is a shitty copy of the suke suke no mi
Queen's invisibility is a knockoff of a knockoff
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And shiryu can do more than just turn himself invisible
we know he can also turn other things invisible. Absalomb even turned an entire ship invisible.
We don't know the full extent of his powers and we don't know the extent to which observation haki counters him. Doffy couldn't find moria once absalomb made him invisible. He thought moria just vanished.
Sure, but it's not the same as what Germa Tech does though.
Free lessons from Croco boy in case you need a reminder, it's all about how you use the ability even outside of his df Shiryu is a monstrous swordsman
Exactly, Shiryu's pretty sneaky even without devil's fruit. He was moving around ID without being detected by their surveillance cameras destroying their communications systems. Suke Suke no Mi's a perfect ability for the guy; he makes good use of it.
Free lessons from Croco boy in case you need a reminder, it's all about how you use the ability even outside of his df Shiryu is a monstrous swordsman
I mean he is called the pirate hunter after all
characters rely on their senses more than you'd think. CoO can't be used forever, even katakuri had a timelimit. A strong fighter with the suke suke no mi would basically be able to drain their opponent's CoO and once they run out of it, they'd be absolutely fucked.
Unless you are fujitora, shiryu's DF is going to cause you problems
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characters rely on their senses more than you'd think. CoO can't be used forever, even katakuri had a timelimit. A strong fighter with the suke suke no mi would basically be able to drain their opponent's CoO and once they run out of it, they'd be absolutely fucked.
Unless you are fujitora, shiryu's DF is going to cause you problems
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--Shiryu needs awakening or Adv coc for him to be a power house like rest of YC1s
--Like King has -- Mobility , Dura , Healing , Speed
--Marco has -- Regen , Mobility , Speed
--Kata has -- FS , Awakening , Range ,Evasiveness
--Zoro has -- Extreme Lethality , Adv COC
Shiryu without adv coc/awakening is basically zoro with much less lethality and InvisibIlity which can be negated by COO
--Like King has -- Mobility , Dura , Healing , Speed
--Marco has -- Regen , Mobility , Speed
--Kata has -- FS , Awakening , Range ,Evasiveness
--Zoro has -- Extreme Lethality , Adv COC
Shiryu without adv coc/awakening is basically zoro with much less lethality and InvisibIlity which can be negated by COO
I mean if Shiryu can use it on objects without constantly touching them. He could really be a monster to mess with.
Imagine Shiryu knocking a sword out of Zoros hand and the sword legit disappears, all presence and look of it. Would actually be a pretty good counter to swordsman.
He could also royally fuck with a battle zone by placing invisible traps throughout the field (hes underhanded so is a solid use)
The biggest upgrade the clear clear fruit has that Germa tech doesn’t is the ability to imbue other things with invisibility.
Imagine Shiryu knocking a sword out of Zoros hand and the sword legit disappears, all presence and look of it. Would actually be a pretty good counter to swordsman.
He could also royally fuck with a battle zone by placing invisible traps throughout the field (hes underhanded so is a solid use)
The biggest upgrade the clear clear fruit has that Germa tech doesn’t is the ability to imbue other things with invisibility.
that can be detected with coo
but the ability to turn your environment invisible is not even the awakening of it , its something else
the advantage is that it can reach a further level as with most df.
at base what the goro goro offers is changing the users body (logia)
at base what the suke suke no mi offers s turning your environment invisible
you dont know what you are talking about
enel using lightning to a massive scale isnt the distinction from germa tech lad.
the reason enel could even do that is that he infact isnt a scrub
cant say the same for absalom.
but the ability to turn your environment invisible is not even the awakening of it , its something else
the advantage is that it can reach a further level as with most df.
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at base what the goro goro offers is changing the users body (logia)
at base what the suke suke no mi offers s turning your environment invisible
you dont know what you are talking about
enel using lightning to a massive scale isnt the distinction from germa tech lad.
the reason enel could even do that is that he infact isnt a scrub
cant say the same for absalom.
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Function wise - Stealth Black is either equal or slightly superior to Suke. Both are visuals and can be detect by CoO. I only said that Stealth is better than Suke function wise because pre-timeskip Sanji actually detects and hits Absalom while Stealth is hard to detect unless you have decent CoO.
Ability wise - Suke got this. Stealth can only allows you to go invisible while Suke can turns objects that you touched invisible.
But Awakened Suke will makes Shiryu to be intangible and can't be detected by CoO and FS users. Hype for that.
Ability wise - Suke got this. Stealth can only allows you to go invisible while Suke can turns objects that you touched invisible.
But Awakened Suke will makes Shiryu to be intangible and can't be detected by CoO and FS users. Hype for that.
