Character Discussion Queen's Genius - How he almost single-handedly won the Onigashima War

F

Formerly Seth

#23
and in the end, he got fucked by a pet dog. Crew mascot.

Don't make me fucking laugh with Queen > King shit.

King mobilized the entire crew meanwhile this idiot tried to kill everyone foe or ally don't matter.
 

Dickie D. Dick

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
#24
Queen was spitting facts this chapter

Not his fault the universe will bend to fuck him over
It his fault though
He shouldn't build such sexy muscler body, now the universe can't help but wanting to fuck him over...
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and in the end, he got fucked by a pet dog. Crew mascot.

Don't make me fucking laugh with Queen > King shit.

King mobilized the entire crew meanwhile this idiot tried to kill everyone foe or ally don't matter.
King is trash
At least Queen is funny
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#26
Let me break it down more why Queens plan to keep everyone on one floor is bad

That would mean Queen and King would have to contest with Luffy, Zoro , Sanji, Jimbei and the rest of SH's, Drake, Hyo and Yakuza boses, Marco and god knows who else.

There is no way in hell King and Queen would be able to contain those power houses. Kind and Queen would be decimated so bad and then what? You have an entire army consisting of best of the best Alliance has to offer with no resistance just ready to take on Kaido.

If Queen was any smart he would let people go to Kaido because that is a death sentence.

So queen plan of keeping everyone at one place was really really bad and he was damn lucky some managed to slip away.
 
#27
Let me break it down more why Queens plan to keep everyone on one floor is bad

That would mean Queen and King would have to contest with Luffy, Zoro , Sanji, Jimbei and the rest of SH's, Drake, Hyo and Yakuza boses, Marco and god knows who else.

There is no way in hell King and Queen would be able to contain those power houses. Kind and Queen would be decimated so bad and then what? You have an entire army consisting of best of the best Alliance has to offer with no resistance just ready to take on Kaido.

If Queen was any smart he would let people go to Kaido because that is a death sentence.

So queen plan of keeping everyone at one place was really really bad and he was damn lucky some managed to slip away.
All those people you mentioned would have been screwed over by the virus sooner or later. Queen couldn't have know that Chopper was a mega super duper doctor and that Marco with his godly blue flames was coming.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
#28
Despite all the memes, I still think Big Mom is, BY FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR, a better threat as a Yonko than Kaido.
I would much rather have a WCI 2.0: Eletric Bogaloo, the return, than this piece of trash japanese wanking Oda is doing.
Seriously. Wano is the cringiest place Oda has ever created. EVERYTHING and EVERYONE in Wano is GREAT AND OMG SO GOOD, the villain in Wano is THE STRONGEST, Oden is BLA BLA BLA.
Fuck this arc.
Wano is MAYBE going to be the ONLY arc that I legit DISLIKE in One piece in general. Some random cool moments are NOT enough to make a GOOD ARC overall.
Dude is fucking focused on wanking as hard as he can his own "country" inside the story, that he goes complete "moron mode" writing it down.
At this point, I'm just hoping to see some cool fights and that's it. The story itself is garbage tier.
The freaking virus killing everyone there, foes and allies alike would have been the dream.
Queen tried to save us all from this trash "raid". Unfortunately, the Deus Ex Machina for the little reindeer was too strong for Queen to handle.
A true hero.:queenmoji:
 
#29
Everything Queen did was bound to fail because no matter what he still fucked his own troops and Kaido would loose thousands of soldiers. He also concentrated all forces to one floor and if everyone stayed there Luffy, Zoro and Sanji WOULD WOOP QUEENS AND KING ASS to kingdom come.

And on top of that Queen then proceeds to underestimate legit everyone despite the raid going so good he was forced to use Ice Oni so early.

Don't think that Queen was smart, queen's plan could have backfired even more and he was damn lucky it is bad as it is now
Those were expendable troops. Failures that could no longer eat a DF, or fodders that they no longer had Smiles available to feed to. As Queen said, all of those are replaceable. They only become formidable opponents for the Samurai if infected with the Plague.

The Plague can also affect you regardless of your strength. Defeating Queen does not stop the Plague, and even Luffy, Zoro or Sanji could fall prey to it while trying to help their infected friends.

Regardless, for these characters it served more to delay them from reaching the roof.

Becuase of Queen, Kaido needed to fight only the Scabbards without them getting reinforcements before their defeat.

Because of Queen Luffy and especially Zoro might have not made it to the roof in time, having it so that Kaido + Big Mom get to only fight Kidd, Law and Killer for a while, maybe even defeating them before Luffy and Zoro get up there.
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#30
All those people you mentioned would have been screwed over by the virus sooner or later. Queen couldn't have know that Chopper was a mega super duper doctor and that Marco with his godly blue flames was coming.
If you gave any of those people Ice Oni they would literally trash the place. Can you imagine Luffy, Zoro or Sanji with Ice Oni? They would be above their prime

Those were expendable troops. Failures that could no longer eat a DF, or fodders that they no longer had Smiles available to feed to. As Queen said, all of those are replaceable. They only become formidable opponents for the Samurai if infected with the Plague.
If Kaido lost that many people he would also loose balance of power. Say what you want about fodder but they keep other people busy. You can't have a pirate crew with you and 3 people

Becuase of Queen, Kaido needed to fight only the Scabbards without them getting reinforcements before their defeat.
And considering how hard Scarabs lost it wouldn't matter if Luffy or Zoro would be there
 
#31
Despite all the memes, I still think Big Mom is, BY FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR, a better threat as a Yonko than Kaido.
I would much rather have a WCI 2.0: Eletric Bogaloo, the return, than this piece of trash japanese wanking Oda is doing.
Seriously. Wano is the cringiest place Oda has ever created. EVERYTHING and EVERYONE in Wano is GREAT AND OMG SO GOOD, the villain in Wano is THE STRONGEST, Oden is BLA BLA BLA.
Fuck this arc.
Wano is MAYBE going to be the ONLY arc that I legit DISLIKE in One piece in general. Some random cool moments are NOT enough to make a GOOD ARC overall.
Dude is fucking focused on wanking as hard as he can his own "country" inside the story, that he goes complete "moron mode" writing it down.
At this point, I'm just hoping to see some cool fights and that's it. The story itself is garbage tier.
The freaking virus killing everyone there, foes and allies alike would have been the dream.
Queen tried to save us all from this trash "raid". Unfortunately, the Deus Ex Machina for the little reindeer was too strong for Queen to handle.
A true hero.:queenmoji:
Yeah the japanese wanking is getting on my nerves a little bit too LoL

Still Wano is not that bad as people are making out to be, it's just a bit too long and draggy so far as an arc per One Piece standards.

PS. All hail Queen the Plaque. :queenmoji:
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If you gave any of those people Ice Oni they would literally trash the place. Can you imagine Luffy, Zoro or Sanji with Ice Oni? They would be above their prime
Yes, they'd be, but they'd kill all their allies too. :josad:
 
#32
If you gave any of those people Ice Oni they would literally trash the place. Can you imagine Luffy, Zoro or Sanji with Ice Oni? They would be above their prime


If Kaido lost that many people he would also loose balance of power. Say what you want about fodder but they keep other people busy. You can't have a pirate crew with you and 3 people


And considering how hard Scarabs lost it wouldn't matter if Luffy or Zoro would be there
First of all, it's funny how Jack get's praised for stalling the fodder minks and not letting them jump Kaido, but Queen stalling way stronger opponents would be considered a downside :milaugh:

It helps Kaido not to have to face everyone at once. That's why he has powerful subordinates under him, otherwise he would just be a one man army. You arguing as if King and Queens role should be to open the door and show everyone's the way to Kaido, so that he can put in all the work :suresure:

You don't get it, those fodders are trash that the Samurai would run through without the Plague. They'd die anyway without taking down powerful opponents, but as Ice Oni's they get to make a significant difference and fuck with the enemy forces.
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#33
First of all, it's funny how Jack get's praised for stalling the fodder minks and not letting them jump Kaido, but Queen stalling way stronger opponents would be considered a downside :milaugh:

It helps Kaido not to have to face everyone at once. That's why he has powerful subordinates under him, otherwise he would just be a one man army. You arguing as if King and Queens role should be to open the door and show everyone's the way to Kaido, so that he can put in all the work :suresure:

You don't get it, those fodders are trash that the Samurai would run through without the Plague. They'd die anyway without taking down powerful opponents, but as Ice Oni's they get to make a significant difference and fuck with the enemy forces.
Nekomamushi and Inuarashi would made no difference against Kaido as we have seen.

Kaido already is so strong he wrecked all scarabs with ease. Throwing Luffy or Zoro there wouldn't do much really. And if you will say otherwise then thats a hard kap.

And fodder against Kaido make no difference. He would blast them with AoE.
 
J

Jailer

#34
Everytime Jack tries but he always ends up with an L, people overrate his feats

Got destroyed by Zunisha
Got desteoyed by Fuji/Tsuru/Sengoku
Got destroyed by Minks
Is about to get destroyed by Scabbards again :milaugh:
 
#35
Nekomamushi and Inuarashi would made no difference against Kaido as we have seen.

Kaido already is so strong he wrecked all scarabs with ease. Throwing Luffy or Zoro there wouldn't do much really. And if you will say otherwise then thats a hard kap.

And fodder against Kaido make no difference. He would blast them with AoE.
Basically you are arguing that a proper subordinate of Kaido would invite all enemy forces to face his captain at once.

Just open doors and lead the way, let Kaido do all the work :milaugh:
 
#36
Everytime Jack tries but he always ends up with an L, people overrate his feats

Got destroyed by Zunisha
Got desteoyed by Fuji/Tsuru/Sengoku
Got destroyed by Minks
Is about to get destroyed by Scabbards again :milaugh:
Jack's good qualities is his stamina and insane recovery. No matter how much you bring him down he'll bounce right back to continue fighting on.

That's why he's called Jack the Drought. It's because he'll make his opponent so tired and dehydrated from facing him, it'll feel like traversing a great desert from thrist.
 
J

Jailer

#37
Jack's good qualities is his stamina and insane recovery. No matter how much you bring him down he'll bounce right back to continue fighting on.

That's why he'll called Jack the Drought. It's because he'll make his opponent so tired and dehydrated from facing him, it'll feel like traversing a great desert from thrist.
Everyone got insane stamina and durability Beetle gifter tanked Enma, revered and serves Tama now. Apoo tanked Kidd, Zoro, Drake and is still fighting.

It's just plot.
 
#38
Everyone got insane stamina and durability Beetle gifter tanked Enma, revered and serves Tama now. Apoo tanked Kidd, Zoro, Drake and is still fighting.

It's just plot.
It's just my speculation on why he's called the Drought. Because so far he hasn't shown anything that may have something to do with it. :kayneshrug:

Unlike Jack, Queen has shown why he's the plague.
King the Wildfire eventhough he too still didn't show any moves that relates him to fire so far but he's is literally on fire so at least we have that in his favor.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#40
I dislike the way Queen is losing that much blood, he is a 1 billion man. This is the further proof that bounties must be taken very skeptically when it comes to relate them to PLs.

Also his mess with his own Beast Pirate comrades, if we can even claim it like that.
 
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