Spoiler Rate the Han battle
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Let’s be honest
Shin being VC is nice but during the battle it wasn’t that impactful
The fight against HK wasn’t good at all, he killed the enemy general as always, and in an empty fight which was far too quick. A good fight is a good enemy. HK didn’t bring anything to the table. Totally forgettable.
Nobody will really remember that really
It’s a story moment but for the reader wasn’t that great of a moment or impactful
Shin being VC is nice but during the battle it wasn’t that impactful
The fight against HK wasn’t good at all, he killed the enemy general as always, and in an empty fight which was far too quick. A good fight is a good enemy. HK didn’t bring anything to the table. Totally forgettable.
Nobody will really remember that really
It’s a story moment but for the reader wasn’t that great of a moment or impactful
Bruva, it's literally the first time Shin was appointed VC, and it happened in the conquest of the first state, some 20 years after the first chapter was published.
idk what "that" impactful means, but it was impactful.
Well I did specifiy Shin decapitating Haku, not the fight itself. There's nothing forgettable about these pages.
Fraud alert.
idk what "that" impactful means, but it was impactful.
Well I did specifiy Shin decapitating Haku, not the fight itself. There's nothing forgettable about these pages.
Fraud alert.I’m maybe forgetting something but did Shin do something really great except killing the enemy general ?
It’s totally forgettable
As forgettable as Shin killing Keisha or something like that (and even here Keisha was great before dying and was a terrifying opponent and general)
HKK doesn’t even have that, just a bum
I felt nothing seeing that panel
Shin smoking Gaku Ei or even Chou Ga Ryu was far better
Fraud alert.
Only the truth
Han battle has been totally mid
I felt no satisfaction or hype or pleasure seeing Shin killing HKK
the man was an uninteresting bum, did nothing really great during the war, was all fake hype, didn’t really push Shin during the fight and died super quickly
It’s totally forgettable
As forgettable as Shin killing Keisha or something like that (and even here Keisha was great before dying and was a terrifying opponent and general)
HKK doesn’t even have that, just a bum
I felt nothing seeing that panel
Shin smoking Gaku Ei or even Chou Ga Ryu was far better
Fraud alert.
Han battle has been totally mid
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I felt no satisfaction or hype or pleasure seeing Shin killing HKK
the man was an uninteresting bum, did nothing really great during the war, was all fake hype, didn’t really push Shin during the fight and died super quickly
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It's impactful because he's gainining valuable experience that will help him advance to GG.
You don't become a GG in a major state without having the ability to command a 100K men, and you don't get to commanding a 100K without serving as a deputy first. Ya dig?
The art of it alone is why it's not forgettable.
That's before you delve into the fact Shin beheaded a genuine national hero in the name of advancing Sei's agenda. That's going to be revisited and relitigated in the fandom for years to come.
Fraud ass take.
Kei Sha's loss set up Kan Ki's defeat, and his death, a Instinctual Type like Shin and Duke Hyou, and Ri Boku's protege, came after he revealed Ri Boku had come to acknowledge Shin as a priority for elimination. Forgettable, my ass.
Using Ou Ki's glaive perfectly to kill Gaku'Ei was memorable, but what was so memorable or impactful about Shin killing Chou Ga Ryuu? That was a pretty straightforward killing. His last words were motivating to Gyou'un, I suppose, but it's a bit of a stretch to consider that to make Shin vs CGR impactful or memorable on its own merits.
The only truth is that you are a FRAUD.
Still better than Hango.
You don't become a GG in a major state without having the ability to command a 100K men, and you don't get to commanding a 100K without serving as a deputy first. Ya dig?
The art of it alone is why it's not forgettable.
That's before you delve into the fact Shin beheaded a genuine national hero in the name of advancing Sei's agenda. That's going to be revisited and relitigated in the fandom for years to come.
Fraud ass take.Kei Sha's loss set up Kan Ki's defeat, and his death, a Instinctual Type like Shin and Duke Hyou, and Ri Boku's protege, came after he revealed Ri Boku had come to acknowledge Shin as a priority for elimination. Forgettable, my ass.
Using Ou Ki's glaive perfectly to kill Gaku'Ei was memorable, but what was so memorable or impactful about Shin killing Chou Ga Ryuu? That was a pretty straightforward killing. His last words were motivating to Gyou'un, I suppose, but it's a bit of a stretch to consider that to make Shin vs CGR impactful or memorable on its own merits.
The only truth is that you are a FRAUD.
Still better than Hango.
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I didn’t make myself clear I think
Keisha was dope, his battle against Kanki was great too, against Duke Hyou too
Him losing in the hills was great
I was just talking about the panel where Shin killed her that wasn’t really impactful
But Keisha was a great antagonist
And I corrected myself
Shin killing Keisha was far better than Shin killing HKK because at least we were giving two shits about Keisha while we couldn’t care less about HKK
Shin just killed the general of the week
Him being VC or not didn’t change anything
He did that before and did it now
Nothing new
Excuse me for not getting hyped
For his new role Hara could have cooked something original
but maybe it’s too much to ask to have Shin doing things outside of trouncing enemies
Mangoku battle was far more impactful for Shin to grow up
Him killing a national hero here won’t change much about Shin mentality
Keisha was dope, his battle against Kanki was great too, against Duke Hyou too
Him losing in the hills was great
I was just talking about the panel where Shin killed her that wasn’t really impactful
But Keisha was a great antagonist
And I corrected myself
Shin killing Keisha was far better than Shin killing HKK because at least we were giving two shits about Keisha while we couldn’t care less about HKK
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Shin just killed the general of the week
Him being VC or not didn’t change anything
He did that before and did it now
Nothing new
Excuse me for not getting hyped
For his new role Hara could have cooked something original
but maybe it’s too much to ask to have Shin doing things outside of trouncing enemies
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Mangoku battle was far more impactful for Shin to grow up
Him killing a national hero here won’t change much about Shin mentality
Han really is Hango 2.0, the length and choreography of these battles is very similar;
Shin is prevented from interfering with the centre battlefield while SBS/Tou launches a direct assault on the enemy.
As they gradually approach they engage the elites from the opposing army, eventually resulting in a quick finale followed by Ousen/RKK's retreat.
There’s barely any room to show things like formations, strategies, etc.
We only get a panel here and there where it’s shown that formation x or whatever is used without really going into it.
It’s not like the story has become bad perse, I still enjoy it.
It’s just that the level of expressiveness, detail, creativity, etc. that was present in earlier battles isn’t as strong anymore.
Shin is prevented from interfering with the centre battlefield while SBS/Tou launches a direct assault on the enemy.
As they gradually approach they engage the elites from the opposing army, eventually resulting in a quick finale followed by Ousen/RKK's retreat.
There’s barely any room to show things like formations, strategies, etc.
We only get a panel here and there where it’s shown that formation x or whatever is used without really going into it.
It’s not like the story has become bad perse, I still enjoy it.
It’s just that the level of expressiveness, detail, creativity, etc. that was present in earlier battles isn’t as strong anymore.
Oh definitely.
It's just that Shibumshou hasn't done anything that earned him the title of Great Heavens. The only thing he did in Hango was Houkening his way through just to reach Ousen and he failed spectacularly lol. At least he killed off 1HP Lakou though, that's the best and only notable moment in Hango arc. Other than that, Hango is a Wano tier arc and I'm afraid that Han arc is bout to be the same.
Then I don't understand what you mean by the panels being impactful.
The thing about HKK's death being meaningful, impactful or whatever, isn't down to any connection to that character so much as what he represented, which was a genuine heroic figure to his people. A hero decapitated by the "hero" of our story, who very much styles himself as someone who wants to be considered a hero.
Beside Ri Boku, who Shin has a legitimate vendetta against, none of his opponents until now were genuine good guys.
Hold on, Shin being the VC of a 100K army doesn't matter? I think it's a pretty damn big milestone for Shin's career.
It's a lot of meaningful responsibility. It's also something of a full circle moment, given Bayou was the first time Shin fought alongside Ou Ki, Tou and Mou Bu. Now he's serving as the #2 to a bona fide 6GG. It matters, you fraudulent bastard.
Agreed, but that doesn't take away from the parts that were good. Shin serving as the #2 general in the conquest of a major state and slaying said state's #2 general is significant, no matter you slice it.
Man Goku wasn't about Shin growing up, it was about him aligning with Sei's vision. He came out that battle and the entire Coalition War as a true believer.
Man Goku was decidedly evil. Shin has had cause to hate or not feel too badly about the enemies he's fought to date for one reason or another.
This is different.
Considering he carries on the wills of violent psychopathic murderers in his heart, how can you say this?
Only a fraud can hold such views.
The thing about HKK's death being meaningful, impactful or whatever, isn't down to any connection to that character so much as what he represented, which was a genuine heroic figure to his people. A hero decapitated by the "hero" of our story, who very much styles himself as someone who wants to be considered a hero.
Beside Ri Boku, who Shin has a legitimate vendetta against, none of his opponents until now were genuine good guys.
Hold on, Shin being the VC of a 100K army doesn't matter? I think it's a pretty damn big milestone for Shin's career.
It's a lot of meaningful responsibility. It's also something of a full circle moment, given Bayou was the first time Shin fought alongside Ou Ki, Tou and Mou Bu. Now he's serving as the #2 to a bona fide 6GG. It matters, you fraudulent bastard.
Agreed, but that doesn't take away from the parts that were good. Shin serving as the #2 general in the conquest of a major state and slaying said state's #2 general is significant, no matter you slice it.
Man Goku wasn't about Shin growing up, it was about him aligning with Sei's vision. He came out that battle and the entire Coalition War as a true believer.
Man Goku was decidedly evil. Shin has had cause to hate or not feel too badly about the enemies he's fought to date for one reason or another.
This is different.
Considering he carries on the wills of violent psychopathic murderers in his heart, how can you say this?
Only a fraud can hold such views.
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I could only go up to 828 yestarday. I’m looking g for the final chapter now 
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/LGcKKKd/1/1/
Quick and dirty TL:
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/WgfsppV/1/1/
