Questions & Mysteries Rayleigh and God Valley

[SkySanji]

Now that we're getting a God Valley flashback, I think it's the perfect time to get the consensus on this, do you think Rayleigh interacted with the Rocks Pirates on God Valley?

In my opinion, he wasn't only on the island, but also fought alongside Roger as well.
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[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I feel like Roger is the type that would go off by himself without letting others know.

But Roger's crew could be in God Valley judging from Film Red where they found Shanks in a treasure box.

 

[comrade]

I think he did fight. Maybe against Shiki. Would be odd for ihm to lay back while Roger and Garp fight against Xebec and a bunch of future Yonko. Maybe that's where he got his name Dark King from. But since Oda is the King of off panelling fights, he may as well not appear.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

50/50. Hard to say.

Logically I find it hard to believe roger and garp alone beat the entire rox pirates. Only possible if WB didn't had his fruit and was much weaker than his prime self. Then theres shiki too.

I will bet he indeed was there at god valley and fought Shiki/BM/Kaido.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Roger definitely should’ve brought his group. But I feel like if he was a major participant it should’ve been mentioned in Ultimate or from Big Mom or from Kaido.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Of course Roger's crew was there. It's no different than when it was reported that "Luffy, Law and Kidd" took down Kaido and Big Mom. They had their crews with them, but the newspaper isn't going to emphasize it.

 

[HA001]

The problem is did they even do anything.
Roger and Ray look at baby shanks with no injuries as they escape god valley AND GOD VALLEY IS STILL THERE

 

[RiShin]

Could be possible whitebeard also betrayed Xebec in the end too because Kaido saying pirates betray each other sub plot point didn't bear any fruit in Wano.

So if Roger only brought Rayleigh with him and had whitebeard as a secret ally with Garp. That would be more fair.
Roger vs Xebec
Whitebeard vs Kaido
Garp vs Linlin
Rayleigh vs Shiki
God knight[ Garling] vs ____
Fodder vs fodder

 

[HA001]

Could be possible whitebeard also betrayed Xebec in the end too because Kaido saying pirates betray each other sub plot point didn't bear any fruit in Wano.

So if Roger only brought Rayleigh with him and had whitebeard as a secret ally with Garp. That would be more fair.
Roger vs Xebec
Whitebeard vs Kaido
Garp vs Linlin
Rayleigh vs Shiki
God knight[ Garling] vs ____
Fodder vs fodder

@Jiihad shanks didn't have haki until 33 plus

But whitebeard fought 21 year old kaido on god valley WHEN THEY WERE ON THE SAME TEAM

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Could be possible whitebeard also betrayed Xebec in the end too because Kaido saying pirates betray each other sub plot point didn't bear any fruit in Wano.

So if Roger only brought Rayleigh with him and had whitebeard as a secret ally with Garp. That would be more fair.
Roger vs Xebec
Whitebeard vs Kaido
Garp vs Linlin
Rayleigh vs Shiki
God knight[ Garling] vs ____
Fodder vs fodder

Whitebeard is way too honorable to betray his captain.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Certainly, since Kaidou was also on the island, any help would be welcome to Roger + Garp... We get a brief glimpse at the end of the Red film, and the island was still there. It's quite likely that after Kaidou was defeated in a 1-on-10 battle and Linlin gave him the Devil Fruit, he disappeared with the entire island in a single attack to express his anger at that moment.

 

[RiShin]

Whitebeard is way too honorable to betray his captain.

We shall see but it's odd to be really friendly with the person who basically killed your captain or got your captain captured.

Plus it could explain Kaido having bad blood with whitebeard. Like what's the reasoning for Kaido trying to disturb W.B when he was making his move to fight the navy?

 

[nik87]

Unless Roger teleported there by himself, Rayleigh participated in that battle.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

On the island, the following individuals were present:

• Kaidou
• Xebec
• Roger
• Garp
• Sengoku
• Big Mom
• Shiki
• Whitebeard
• Pirate John
• Gaban
• Possibly Garling
• Silver Axe
• Ochoku
• Stussy

I don't know how the world didn't end with this battle, with Kaidou triumphing in the end as the last one standing and the strongest of them all.

 

[Cruxroux]

Unless Roger teleported there by himself, Rayleigh participated in that battle.

That's precisely what I have been questioning until now.

Xebec wanted to kill CD
Garp job was to protect CD.

Where does Roger fit in the equation.
Did ray sold Roger as a slave for some alcohol?

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I don't know how the world didn't end with this battle, with Kaidou triumphing in the end as the last one standing and the strongest of them all.

Kaido was a kid back then. Cut him some slack.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Could be possible whitebeard also betrayed Xebec in the end too because Kaido saying pirates betray each other sub plot point didn't bear any fruit in Wano.

So if Roger only brought Rayleigh with him and had whitebeard as a secret ally with Garp. That would be more fair.
Roger vs Xebec
Whitebeard vs Kaido
Garp vs Linlin
Rayleigh vs Shiki
God knight[ Garling] vs ____
Fodder vs fodder

I could mostly see this. It all makes sense except Shiki later went after Roger and his crew so no chance Ray beat him in God Valley. I'm sure it was Garling vs Rayleigh (perhaps title of WSS on the line or at least an important step on the way).

Kaido did say - albeit in another context - "Whitebeard really did a number on me". I could see close to prime WB no-diff novice Kaido with AdCoC just like Kaido vs Luffy pt1. Then WB vs Shiki. Big Mom also said something about Garp so that is probably correct too.

Finally Roger + Garp + WB vs Xebec (before Roger 1vs1 Xebec).

 

[Jiihad]

@Jiihad shanks didn't have haki until 33 plus

But whitebeard fought 21 year old kaido on god valley WHEN THEY WERE ON THE SAME TEAM

Blood, jus be sayin shit man. None of what he’s said tha last couple days makes sense

 

[RiShin]

I could mostly see this. It all makes sense except Shiki later went after Roger and his crew so no chance Ray beat him in God Valley. I'm sure it was Garling vs Rayleigh (perhaps title of WSS on the line or at least an important step on the way).

Kaido did say - albeit in another context - "Whitebeard really did a number on me". I could see close to prime WB no-diff novice Kaido with AdCoC just like Kaido vs Luffy pt1. Then WB vs Shiki. Big Mom also said something about Garp so that is probably correct too.

Finally Roger + Garp + WB vs Xebec (before Roger 1vs1 Xebec).

Cheers to you man!
That could very well happen and iirc W.b said he could dunk Shikki into the ocean in strong world. [ I know its non canon] but the rock pirates seem to be run by an hierarchy which Linlin and W.B were the the top 2. So W.B was stronger than Shiki.

 

[nik87]

Did ray sold Roger as a slave for some alcohol?

 

[Ven437]

We got absolutely nothing from Ray during the Oden flashback, God Valley is possibly his final chance at unleashing some prime feats that everyone’s been clamoring about.

If Oda doesn’t draw him fighting or going all-out in GV then it would be a massive disservice to all the hype he’s gotten previous chapters.