Current Events Rayleigh statement doesn't mean in his Prime he would 100% beat Blackbeard

[vikas]

Bruh Rayleigh straight up said he stood no chance against current BB.

Somehow BB manage to look good even after running from him

Nah he did not. Oda tried to make it like that. But it did not feel that way. BB still looks like a coward rookie...who has no skills and is just reliant on DFs and all. He has been going downward since his introduction speech.

 

[Herrera95]

This is an L for Zoro.

How?

Post automatically merged: Sep 11, 2022

Teach would fought his father and in canon he killed him

What?

 

[fanboy]

How?

Zoro parallels Rayleigh, so the L transfers from person to person.

 

[Herrera95]

Zoro parallels Rayleigh, so the L transfers from person to person.

How is that even an L for Rayleigh? He made BB run without even clash with him.

 

[SkySanji]

Agreed, it's just people reading too far into a statement for an agenda

The only thing Rayleigh says is that he doesn't stand a chance of winning against Blackbeard, no implication whatsoever that he'd win in his prime.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Agreed, it's just people reading too far into a statement for an agenda

The only thing Rayleigh says is that he doesn't stand a chance of winning against Blackbeard, no implication whatsoever that he'd win in his prime.

He says "at my age" when there is no need for it unless it's to imply that at his prime he could

 

[Bogard]

Nah he did not. Oda tried to make it like that. But it did not feel that way. BB still looks like a coward rookie...who has no skills and is just reliant on DFs and all. He has been going downward since his introduction speech.

It's TCB's translation that made it seem like he was fearing Rayleigh due to his reputation. The viz implied that it was just the situation(his crewmates turned to stone with no way to turn them back)

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And Rayleigh played the role of mediator in it while knowing that if not the situation, he had no chance to win a head on fight at his age, so with no possibility to save Hancock at that point

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[Sword God Ryuma]

It's TCB's translation that made it seem like he was fearing Rayleigh due to his reputation. The viz implied that it was just the situation(his crewmates turned to stone with no way to turn them back)

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And Rayleigh played the role of mediator in it while knowing that if not the situation, he had no chance to win a head on fight at his age, so with no possibility to save Hancock at that point

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Just ask @EtenBoby or @Den_Den_Mushi if the Raw says anything about Reputation

 

[HA001]

It's TCB's translation that made it seem like he was fearing Rayleigh due to his reputation. The viz implied that it was just the situation(his crewmates turned to stone with no way to turn them back)

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And Rayleigh played the role of mediator in it while knowing that if not the situation, he had no chance to win a head on fight at his age, so with no possibility to save Hancock at that point

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The bb saving his crew excuse doesn't fly. He was gonna kill Hancock and let them be stone forever.
His reaction to Ray is clear as day. And this is someone who has witnessed prime Ray.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

The bb saving his crew excuse doesn't fly. He was gonna kill Hancock and let them be stone forever.
His reaction to Ray is clear as day. And this is someone who has witnessed prime Ray.

Bro just get somebody to translate the Raw

 

[HA001]

Bro just get somebody to translate the Raw

No real need. It's clear. There's no need for him to stress at my age
If age wasn't the reason he'd lose to bb.

 

[Boiroy]

*At my age* *couldn't possibly won*

This implies that Prime Rayleigh would have *possibly won* *if he was younger*

 

[SkySanji]

He says "at my age" when there is no need for it unless it's to imply that at his prime he could

That's just you reading too far into a statement, if that was Oda's intent he could have made it many times more clearer

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

No real need. It's clear. There's no need for him to stress at my age
If age wasn't the reason he'd lose to bb.

Not talking about that part its Obvious Prime Ray has a chance to beat BB. I am talking about Reputation part

 

[Buggy D Clown]

That's just you reading too far into a statement, if that was Oda's intent he could have made it many times more clearer

• There is no possible way I could have won against BB
• At my age there is no possible way I could have won against BB

^ these 2 are not the same thing, we have extra info in 1

 

[HA001]

That's just you reading too far into a statement, if that was Oda's intent he could have made it many times more clearer

It is clear. He literally says at my age. Age is the reason.

 

[Bogard]

The bb saving his crew excuse doesn't fly. He was gonna kill Hancock and let them be stone forever.

I pointed this out in my first reply

And when Hancock said she will, he noticed she was lying, suggesting he was willing to let Hancock and her df go if his crew mates could somehow be saved, but would only be forced to actually kill Hancock if she refuses to do so, something he noticed at the time, that she wasn't willing to do

He only ended up wanting to kill her because he noticed she was lying

And directly afterwards, Rayleigh came as an insurance that she'd turn Blackbeard's crew back to normal

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

I pointed this out in my first reply

He only ended up wanting to kill her because he noticed she was lying

And directly afterwards, Rayleigh came as an insurance that she'd turn Blackbeard's crew back to normal

How does this change anything though? The previous translation still said Ray would lose to him and that he has a chance to win in his prime. Only difference is the reputation thing

 

[SkySanji]

there is no possible way I could have won against BB
at my age the is no possible way I could have won against BB
^ these 2 are not the same thing we have extra info on 1

All this statement says is that old Rayleigh can't beat Blackbeard, that's it, if Oda wanted to convey something differently then there's many way he could have easily done so.

 

[HA001]

All this statement says is that old Rayleigh can't beat Blackbeard, that's it, if Oda wanted to convey something differently then there's many way he could have easily done so.

AT MY AGE
It's clear what he's conveyed