Character Discussion Regarding ZKK and people's criticism of Wano
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In several ways but none of them are particularly helpful since in all cases Zoro would end up losing to Enel due to his one(2-3)-shot DF.
He lost to Kaku in W7? I wasnt aware of that... Why was he fighting Lucci if he lost to Kaku?
Pretty sure Huff Huff is considered a loss by trolls these days...
He lost to Kaku in W7? I wasnt aware of that... Why was he fighting Lucci if he lost to Kaku?
Pretty sure Huff Huff is considered a loss by trolls these days...
Read this chapter and tell me if Kaku "never bested" Zorro.
https://ww8.readonepiece.com/chapter/one-piece-chapter-348/
As per your Enel argument, you argue against Devil Fruit since Zoro can't cut him. That is not the point. Was he "Bested" by Enel? Yes or No?
Now you might argue Zoro had no CoA yet. We're not arguing about possibilities. We are arguing about results. If Luffy had CoA when he initially fought Crocodile had he won? Good chance he would've have. In the story, did he lose that first round? Yes. In. Story.
Where is the part when he bests him?
When Zoro is taking his eyes off of him and being concerned with other things?
That's what you call besting him? ...
My argument about Enel would be Zoro not being fresh and already being exhausted having several fights behind him prior to meeting Enel but as I said, even with all those things, Enel would win. He was unbeatable unless you had a counter for his DF which nobody besides Luffy had.
Zoro had CoA when he fought Enel. Would have Enel survive the one hit Zoro did against him if Zoro coated it in CoA?
Enel was far above their level when they met him, Luffy had too much plot armor in that fight.
Of course, exhausted Zoro stood no chance, even fresh, CoO with one-shot DF ability is too much.
By By Mr. "I will never lose again"
1000 Chapter and Zoron is still fodder
Since when is getting kicked a loss, Steven-chan?
When Zoro is taking his eyes off of him and being concerned with other things?
That's what you call besting him? ...
My argument about Enel would be Zoro not being fresh and already being exhausted having several fights behind him prior to meeting Enel but as I said, even with all those things, Enel would win. He was unbeatable unless you had a counter for his DF which nobody besides Luffy had.
Zoro had CoA when he fought Enel. Would have Enel survive the one hit Zoro did against him if Zoro coated it in CoA?
Enel was far above their level when they met him, Luffy had too much plot armor in that fight.
Of course, exhausted Zoro stood no chance, even fresh, CoO with one-shot DF ability is too much.
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By By Mr. "I will never lose again"
1000 Chapter and Zoron is still fodder
Where is the part when he bests him?
When Zoro is taking his eyes off of him and being concerned with other things?
That's what you call besting him? ...
My argument about Enel would be Zoro not being fresh and already being exhausted having several fights behind him prior to meeting Enel but as I said, even with all those things, Enel would win. He was unbeatable unless you had a counter for his DF which nobody besides Luffy had.
Zoro had CoA when he fought Enel. Would have Enel survive the one hit Zoro did against him if Zoro coated it in CoA?
Enel was far above their level when they met him, Luffy had too much plot armor in that fight.
Of course, exhausted Zoro stood no chance, even fresh, CoO with one-shot DF ability is too much.
Since when is getting kicked a loss, Steven-chan?
When Zoro is taking his eyes off of him and being concerned with other things?
That's what you call besting him? ...
My argument about Enel would be Zoro not being fresh and already being exhausted having several fights behind him prior to meeting Enel but as I said, even with all those things, Enel would win. He was unbeatable unless you had a counter for his DF which nobody besides Luffy had.
Zoro had CoA when he fought Enel. Would have Enel survive the one hit Zoro did against him if Zoro coated it in CoA?
Enel was far above their level when they met him, Luffy had too much plot armor in that fight.
Of course, exhausted Zoro stood no chance, even fresh, CoO with one-shot DF ability is too much.
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Since when is getting kicked a loss, Steven-chan?
Zoro had CoA when he fought Enel. Would have Enel survive the one hit Zoro did against him if Zoro coated it in CoA?
Enel was far above their level when they met him, Luffy had too much plot armor in that fight.
Of course, exhausted Zoro stood no chance, even fresh, CoO with one-shot DF ability is too much. "
All these words could just be replaced with "Yes, he did lose once". That's what were arguing about. The result. Not the possibilities. Not the "Zoro was exhausted" "Enel had broken DF" "Enel was a different level than them". Only the result. What was the result? Zoro and Enal fought, Zoro ended up losing. Or were you reading a different chapter?
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If you actually read my entire comment, you would realize that I wasn't trashing on Zoro.
More praising his character development through his wins and losses. The reasons why they were important to his character.
But people still managed to interpret it as some "sanji fanboy vs zoro fanboy" thing.
Are you people really that insecure that your favorite character CANNOT BY NO MEANS LOSE AT ALL, or else he will be trash?
Stay away from A Song of Ice and Fire, or else you might not survive the hits.
More praising his character development through his wins and losses. The reasons why they were important to his character.
But people still managed to interpret it as some "sanji fanboy vs zoro fanboy" thing.
Are you people really that insecure that your favorite character CANNOT BY NO MEANS LOSE AT ALL, or else he will be trash?
Stay away from A Song of Ice and Fire, or else you might not survive the hits.
