Controversial RELIGIONS & SPIRITUALITIES : Conversations

[Bisoromi Bear]

Hinduism is literally a monotheism

Strongly depends. I'd say it's monolatry than monotheism

 

[Zenos7]

Your statements regarding religion and spirituality are consistently materialistic, negative and atheistic and your outlook on life seems cynical and nihilistic.

i am an atheist and am negative towards religions, sure. im not a materialist or nihilist though.

All religions may be true in their own way

if one religion states there is only one god and the next has multiple ones, they arent both "true in their own way".

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

if one religion states there is only one god and the next has multiple ones, they arent both "true in their own way".

''Only one religion can be true'' is the same logic as '''only one language can be true''

 

[Zenos7]

Oh I digit the wrong word. I mean "hinduism and ancient greek religion are not polytheism"
Hinduism is literally monotheism

as far as i am aware, they have multiple gods and not a single one.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

if one religion states there is only one god and the next has multiple ones, they arent both "true in their own way".

That's also a very abrahamic aproach to religion

 

[Etzel Andergast]

yes, and obviously monotheism and polytheism dont share the same conception of god. and in islam christanity isnt even accepted as a different monotheistic religion because of the trinity.

When I say the same conception of god I'm saying that all of the gods of these religions have these attributes: the 4 omni attributes, simplicity, aseity, immutability and eternality

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

if one religion states there is only one god and the next has multiple ones, they arent both "true in their own way".

Bruh some languages don't even have words for numbers. You only think that there a difference between one God and many gods because you're thinking in absolute numbers

 

[Zenos7]

''Only one religion can be true'' is the same logic as '''only one language can be true''

since language is a way of communication and not a belief system making positive claims about our natural world and beyond, not at all.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

as far as i am aware, they have multiple gods and not a single one.

All their gods are just embodiments of Bramhan (the supreme and divine reality)

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

since language is a way of communication and not a belief system making positive claims about our natural world and beyond, not at all.

Belief systems are ways to make sense of the inherent spiritual aspects of our surroundings

 

[Zenos7]

That's also a very abrahamic aproach to religion

so?

the abrahamic ones are the major religions. and they themselves arent compatible with each other.

but here you want to tell me that even other religions are compatible, because reasons and language.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

All their gods are just embodiments of Bramhan (the supreme and divine reality)

That's a later developmebt tbh

 

[Zenos7]

When I say the same conception of god I'm saying that all of the gods of these religions have these attributes: the 4 omni attributes, simplicity, aseity, immutability and eternality

even if i would grant that, that doesnt mean the gods of different religions arent mutually exclusive. because they are.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Strongly depends. I'd say it's monolatry than monotheism

There is a term to describe, but I don't know the english expression for that. If I translate would be "monotheism polysemic"

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

since language is a way of communication and not a belief system making positive claims about our natural world and beyond, not at all.

Abrahamic approach again. Many ethic religions were/are less about the actual belief and more about the community and rituals. The constant questioning of the adherents' belief is a core element of messianic and missionaric religions .

 

[Zenos7]

Bruh some languages don't even have words for numbers. You only think that there a difference between one God and many gods because you're thinking in absolute numbers

well, adherents of monotheistic religions also think there is a difference, and they usually despise polytheistic religions because that undermines the superiority of their deity.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

even if i would grant that, that doesnt mean the gods of different religions arent mutually exclusive. because they are.

Thats why I said just the same metaphysical ground. I don't think its possible to philosophically prove another than these one

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

the abrahamic ones are the major religions

Doesn't make them more valid than others. Solely focussing on the abrahamic religions leads to a very limited understanding of religion and spirituality

well, adherents of monotheistic religions also think there is a difference, and they usually despise polytheistic religions because that undermines the superiority of their deity.

Both have a point in their own way.

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well, adherents of monotheistic religions also think there is a difference,

Would you describe Catholicism and Orthodoxy as monotheistic? The presence of saint worship doesn't differ from polytheistic worship. The only difference is that the word god is not used for the saints but they effectively occupy the same roles as pre Christian gods. The same development can be observed in mire recently converted overseas Catholic communities.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

That's a later developmebt tbh

But is the current conception

 

[Zenos7]

Abrahamic approach again. Many ethic religions were/are less about the actual belief and more about the community and rituals. The constant questioning of the adherents' belief is a core element of messianic and missionaric religions .

yeah but when i say different religions are mutually exclusive, its obviously (and i dont get the deflection and philosophical mumbojumbo really) about the claims of the religions about our world and beyond, such as creation myths, what supernatural realms (bhavachakra holds more supernatural realms than abrahamic religions) there are, views about the universe,explanations of phenomena that people didnt understand when the religion was created (such as lightning or earthquakes), etc etc etc.