[FNZ] Salem of Lies Return of the Throne (Unofficial)

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Melontonin

Blood Manipulation
Tbh Zara’s explanations are coming off as genuine to me. Not sure if I wanna vote him rn.

A possible plan?
imo Zara could either be assassin or Hunter. We should opt for Zara to be roleblocked and see if there’s any kills tonight

We lynch someone else today.
Assassin is not required to kill every night right? So there is a possibility that if Zara gets rbed and assassin wants to make him look bad, Zara would be framed and we might lynch him without second thought. We are too see what will happen d3 when we get to it.
 
the problem with ToL is none of us cared enough to study the game and the abilities down to a T

So I'm guessing that no one noticed that scums could read whispers until Queen pointed out.


Just like how, FYI, if someone is roleblocked 3 times, they become roleblock immune.
I should have just shut my mouth and left it alone tbh
nobody noticed and I'm getting shit from noticing
 
I do not sus her for the exact same thing.

Zara for lack of responsiveness, quoting, digging
Queen for questionable time on wiki reading.

If you mean I unvoted Zara and I am critiquing Queen unvoting for Zara while I did the same, note I did it much slower than she did. Do you not notice her timing as suspect?

It really seems like you are coming to her defense. You are staying neutral about her but pushing me. Why?
again
not pushing you
you arent the only person who unvoted
kiwi is also iffy on the vote
it would have to take the 9th person to unvote in order for anyone to be in danger first off.
but out of all the people that are unsure
you are the only one to actively question why someone took off their vote and then proceed to do same.

its hypocrisy
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@Reborn This game is totally different then a regular mafia game it feels like, I still don't have a feel for how it should go.

There are a few games lynching D1 is bad and I'm stilly figuring this game out due to how the game works and mechanics. I also wasn't sure on anyone quite yet on how they went then when I woke up the thread went weird. Mainly I'm not 100% sure if lynching in this game D1 is ideal or not. Lately I haven't been lynching Day 1 as town just because I can't get as active as I usually can to really sus someone out.

Also I apologize for everyone today as I had a busy day with basically no net as I was in the mountains till now and didn't have much time to do anything. I'll try to read what I can.
 
@Reborn This game is totally different then a regular mafia game it feels like, I still don't have a feel for how it should go.

There are a few games lynching D1 is bad and I'm stilly figuring this game out due to how the game works and mechanics. I also wasn't sure on anyone quite yet on how they went then when I woke up the thread went weird. Mainly I'm not 100% sure if lynching in this game D1 is ideal or not. Lately I haven't been lynching Day 1 as town just because I can't get as active as I usually can to really sus someone out.

Also I apologize for everyone today as I had a busy day with basically no net as I was in the mountains till now and didn't have much time to do anything. I'll try to read what I can.
can you read the last pages and give us reads?
 

Melontonin

Blood Manipulation
again
not pushing you
you arent the only person who unvoted
kiwi is also iffy on the vote
it would have to take the 9th person to unvote in order for anyone to be in danger first off.
but out of all the people that are unsure
you are the only one to actively question why someone took off their vote and then proceed to do same.

its hypocrisy
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I explained why I unvoted, no one is going after me except you.
Queen explained why she unvoted, no one is going after her except me.
Now, if you don't want to look like a hypocrite or that you have a bias for Queen, tell me what you think of her quick unvote. If you deflect, you have my vote asap.
 
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NeutralWatcher

scum can read the whispers?


bruh
so fucking dumb this whole thing is.
You mean now scums now Seraphoenix and Melontolin's role? Then why not revealing their roles to us if mafia can see whisper?
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You mean now scums know Seraphoenix and Melontolin's role? Then why not revealing their roles to us if mafia can see whisper?
 
I explained why I unvoted, no one is going after me except you.
Queen explained why she unvoted, no one is going after her except me.
Now, if you don't want to look like a hypocrite or that you have a bias for Queen, tell me what you think of her quick unvote. If you deflect, you have my vote asap.
queen took of the the vote because she thought it was a unique role implying scum wouldnt risk such a claim since they could be counter claimed easily . I countered that stating it wasnt unique.
you took off the vote because zara appears genuine . two very different reasons. lets not start with your unwarranted need to claim to both al and flowa without any sus on you . dont give af who you vote mate. asking you simple question and you are saying am sussing you.
my sus is who I voted on.
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You mean now scums now Seraphoenix and Melontolin's role? Then why not revealing their roles to us if mafia can see whisper?
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You mean now scums know Seraphoenix and Melontolin's role? Then why not revealing their roles to us if mafia can see whisper?
it seems so
that sparked the melon queen argument from what I know now.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Can I whisper it to you?
Why you preferred whispering to al of your role?
I'm under the impression that scum would need to declare their whisper reading ability before someone whispers to get knowledge on the info. .
Till the time you made this post ^^ town was unsure of how unseen whispering abilties work but somehow you come out and said "that scums in order to get information of whispers must use their ability first"

Drago soon clarified this...
Ok, if for example the Mastermind used their Little Bird ability on Flower after Sera and Melon whispered to her then they wouldn't receive the whispers cause it'd be too late. They'd have to activate the ability beforehand.

Does that make sense?


How you deduced that melon???
 
Assassin is not required to kill every night right? So there is a possibility that if Zara gets rbed and assassin wants to make him look bad, Zara would be framed and we might lynch him without second thought. We are too see what will happen d3 when we get to it.
I feel rbing Zara wouldn't provide us with any results in this right now as I do not thing there would be a benefit to do so. I believe doing so wouldn't help anything.

Personally I trust his claim of being the Hunter.
 

Melontonin

Blood Manipulation
Why you preferred whispering to al of your role?


Till the time you made this post ^^ town was unsure of how unseen whispering abilties work but somehow you come out and said "that scums in order to get information of whispers must use their ability first"

Drago soon clarified this...




How you deduced that melon???
I deduced the most logical way Dragomir could operate whispers.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Yeah yesterday Zara didn't know what BD is. Now he typed Blue Dragon as Black Dragon. If he's scum I think his scum partner would tell him what Blue Dragon is. He's more like indie.

@Zara Can you state your winning condition?
As of now you have sussed so many people but I haven't really seen you pushing case on anyone... why so?
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
Assassin is not required to kill every night right? So there is a possibility that if Zara gets rbed and assassin wants to make him look bad, Zara would be framed and we might lynch him without second thought. We are too see what will happen d3 when we get to it.
Yes, that is possible. But this scenario would be better than lynching him now because:

He flips town and takes another BD out. The assassin kills someone tonight (=3 BD dead)
He flips scum = (yay, we got the assassin)

A townie dies anyways (=1 BD dead, Zara isn't scum)

No deaths because assassin abstained, we lynch Zara and he flips town (=2 BD dead)
Zara is assassin, no one dies since he was roleblocked, we lynch him tomorrow (= 0 BD dead)

Either way, second option looks better to me. The only issue is if RB failed.

I should have just shut my mouth and left it alone tbh
nobody noticed and I'm getting shit from noticing
Chill sis, I understand your frustration. I was really frustrated in the beginning of this game too for being sussed for dumb reasons.
This seems to be a common theme this game.

isnt that just the cult leader?
Nope, per wiki (and I confirmed with Drago last game)

A non occupy immune class gaining occupation immunity by being occupied, redirected or jailed at least three times.
I think it also says in sign up thread.
 
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NeutralWatcher

Little Bird ability can only be used twice as far as I know.

As of now you have sussed so many people but I haven't really seen you pushing case on anyone... why so?
Zara is the only player I sus. I think his claim isn't fake since he looked genuine when he hinted his role.
 

Melontonin

Blood Manipulation
queen took of the the vote because she thought it was a unique role implying scum wouldnt risk such a claim since they could be counter claimed easily . I countered that stating it wasnt unique.
you took off the vote because zara appears genuine . two very different reasons. lets not start with your unwarranted need to claim to both al and flowa without any sus on you . dont give af who you vote mate. asking you simple question and you are saying am sussing you.
my sus is who I voted on.
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it seems so
that sparked the melon queen argument from what I know now.
Nice, you told me what you thought of her vote finally.
They are 2 very different reasons. I even clarified this myself:
I do not sus her for the exact same thing.

Zara for lack of responsiveness, quoting, digging
Queen for questionable time on wiki reading.
 

Melontonin

Blood Manipulation
This is your first time playin....




It's really weird that you deduced how a host would operate scum abilties.....
In what way is it weird? If I was a host I would chose to do it that way to. Please explain how you would operate whispers in the most logical way possible for this game?
 
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