Questions & Mysteries Rivalry between Zoro and Sanji

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Shimotsuki Fenaker

Shimotsuki Fenaker

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#141
#141
T.D.A said:
What do you mean by outside gags?

Rivalry doesn't mean to seriously try and kill each other lol
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Were Shanks and Buggy trying to compete with each other?
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Where is the same objective / same field that they are competing about ?
•Zoro a swordman while sanji a martial artist
In Their mind :
• Zoro wants strength , Sanji wants women
• Zoro wants the WSS , Sanji wants women and all blue

• Zoro wants his name to reach the heavens , Sanji wants to cook for ppl .

So they have the same field isn't it ?
At least show me a factual statement or a canon source that said they are rivals

T.D.A said:
Show the proper respect to your elders :kata:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1418293198477316096
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Zowo always gets bodied
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T.D.A

T.D.A

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#142
#142
Fenaker said:

Where is the same objective / same field that they are competing about ?
•Zoro a swordman while sanji a martial artist
In Their mind :
• Zoro wants strength , Sanji wants women
• Zoro wants the WSS , Sanji wants women and all blue

• Zoro wants his name to reach the heavens , Sanji wants to cook for ppl .

So they have the same field isn't it ?
At least show me a factual statement or a canon source that said they are rivals


Zowo always gets bodied
:gokulaugh:
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Zoro and Sanji want to be better than the other, so like the definition you posted, it's a type of rivalry.
 
Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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#145
#145
Den_Den_Mushi said:
Imagine Zoro telling Mihawk that Lanji is his rival. This mofo who commits sex crimes, had to be bailed out by his brothers after shit talking them, got a bounty increase from Daddy and isn’t considered a leading figure in his generation.

Mihawk would fucking disown Zoro in 2 seconds flat. That ‘rivalry’ would be nothing but dishonour to the character.
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Mihawk shared the same title with a literal clown
 
Finalbeta

Finalbeta

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#146
#146
[No Name] said:
Rivalry, between friends, Is showing who's the best, as you said.
Now, I am asking the others, have u ever had a rival, guys?
Wanting to have a better score in tests or doing more push-ups and be better than a friend of yours at gym is rivalry, amazing right?
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There's a difference between a flaming rivalry and a rather gag-like one however.

Zoro and Sanji are not flaming rivals right now most likely, for the simple reason that Zoro is likely aware of his massive superiority and also because his energies are focused on Mihawk right now, he is his true objective and the man his aim is pointing towards.
 
Shimotsuki Fenaker

Shimotsuki Fenaker

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#147
#147
T.D.A said:
the better wing of Luffy XD
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So you have nothing my bro ?
So this is a Gag in the end since nothing like this we have in OP World where Rivalry means something :
Shanks vs Mihawk
Roger vs WB
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Btw i didn't see ur point about Shanks vs Buggy yeah they are rivals since they compete with each other who is the right and who is the wrong to the point they started fighting
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Shiroyru said:
Mihawk shared the same title with a literal clown
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Like how Kaido shared the same title with a Clonko Big meme
Pathetic clownko
 
T.D.A

T.D.A

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#149
#149
Fenaker said:
So you have nothing my bro ?
So this is a Gag in the end since nothing like this we have in OP World where Rivalry means something :
Shanks vs Mihawk
Roger vs WB
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Btw i didn't see ur point about Shanks vs Buggy yeah they are rivals since they compete with each other who is the right and who is the wrong to the point they started fighting
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Like how Kaido shared the same title with a Clonko Big meme
Pathetic clownko
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When did Shanks and Buggy compete with each other?

Sanji and Zoro compete to be better than each other so by definition a type of rivalry.
 
BleakAsh

BleakAsh

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#155
#155
Fenaker said:

Competing at who he is right ? And started fighting

At what ?
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they competed over which pole is colder... how is that strength derived rivalry.. what BS am i reading here
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Orojackson Refugee said:
Indeed, zoro and sanji relationship is actually a parallel to shanks and buggy.


Zoro and shanks, both swordsman with scar on left eye and looking at their left side
Meanwhile,

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LMFAOOO.. honestly can't take this seriously but nice one you're getting better with humour
 
bennbeckman

bennbeckman

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#156
#156
Vinsmoke D. Zolo said:
Sadly you're sticking with "Zoro's goal has to do with strength, he can't never be close to Sanji or placed alongside with Sanji", and clearly thats not how Oda sees them in the crew. Otherwise Sanji could be placed as a complete cook and Oda could replace him with Jinbei or something, which is most likely confirmed that this isn't happening

Luffy just wants to be the pirate king, he fights cuz it's needed, Whitebeard wanted a family and ended up being basicly equal to Roger, the same thing works for Sanji. Beating Mihawk is Zoro's personal goal, it doesn't debunk Sanji from being atleast close in strength.
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Part of it is.

Luffy and Zoro's goals involve fighting... Sanji's doesnt.

Sanji's never been close to Zoro post time skip in strength and power. That's just plain and simple.
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BakiDou said:
Base Sanji stomps yonko commanders, he needs no weapon to be relevant, there was never a rivalry, Sanji was always stronger and more important for plot, Zoro even with magical swords gets crippled and fked by literally everyone. Its clear that zoro got the biggest power up in one piece so far(what kind of weapon lets you casually use acoa slashes beside enma?), yet he cant compete with the cook who is a hero for fun nothing serious. :okay:
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Sanji's kick did some reaaaaaaal damage to Queen

Why didnt Oda have Sanji fight Kaido?
Why doesnt Sanji currently have CoC
Why did Sanji get caught by Black Maria?
Why does Sanji throw his pride away to wear the Raidsuit?
Why did Oda give Sanji the Raidsuit?

At least Zoro is loyal and doesnt kick his own captain in the face
At least Zoro is loyal and doesnt abandon his crew

Zoro can deal with his own issues without captain having to bail him out

This is toooooooo easyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 
Shanal

Shanal

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#157
#157
Yeah, they have a friendly rivalry.

No, it's nothing serious like Zoro/Kuina or Roger/WB. But more akin to bicker rivalry such as Lucci/Jyabura. Serious rivalry includes a very deep portrayal as well as a huge part of character centered around it. The rivalry is far from a defining aspect for either of them.

And yeah, none of that implies equality in power. In fact, not even serious, power based rivalries imply equality 9/10 times. See: almost every rivalry in shonen

If Oda wanted to show sheer equality, he'd not have Sanji left out of WG, left out of rooftop. He'd have Zoro and Sanji share Luffy's pain instead. He'd not have drawn many, many, many more parallels between Zoro/Luffy than Sanji/Luffy. He'd not have had Zoro written as VC and second strongest in Vivre Card. He'd not make characters refer to him as such over and over again. He'd not make other characters be parallel of Luffy/Zoro only (Smoker/Tashigi, Coby/Helmeppo, Croc/Mr.1, etc) and much, much more.

But, of course, Sanji has parallels with Zoro (and very, very minimal with Luffy), because they are ultimately Luffy's two pillars and his right and left hand men.

Regardless, thread has been made thousand of times. No point making another.
 
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