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is Rock . D. Xebec alive?


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#21
Sengoku already specifically mentioned that the current Rocks alliance is likely stronger than it was in the past:




I think we need to stop overhyping Xebec. YES, he himself was probably the greatest threat the world ever saw back in the day with his crew, but Big Mom and Kaido are far stronger than they were 40 years before, Sengoku says this. Anyway, Rocks will continue to be a running theme after this arc. Why? Because its almost clear that Blackbeard is essentially Rocks "incarnate". Whether or not he is the son of Rocks is anyone's guess, but the man is coming close to raining chaos on the world and its clear that whatever he is doing right now against the marines is going to mimic that.

So for now I'd say Rocks is a flashback only character that we will see once Kaido's flashback kicks off in the future. We got the Oden/Roger side, now we'll get the Kaido/BM/Rocks side of it.

I'd say its more likely that Shiki or someone else from Rocks joins this arc, but possibly not as a villain. There is still this person that strangely looks dressed like Shiki with a Wano hat:


they can't be stronger than before as a crew

- he said they are stronger than before (just Kaido and Big Mom)
- he said they would be strongest crew right now (they would)

but Prime Rocks pirates was too broken even above 2 Yonko alliance
 
#22
they can't be stronger than before as a crew

- he said they are stronger than before (just Kaido and Big Mom)
- he said they would be strongest crew right now (they would)

but Prime Rocks pirates was too broken even above 2 Yonko alliance
We'll see how it plays out. I'm sure the Rocks plot isn't over even if Kaido goes down this arc anyway, simply due to Blackbeard as a person and how he and Shanks are involved in the end plot I'm sure.

Especially with this weird hint that Joy Boy may have a presence in the current plot and Im being a thing too, theres some weird engame level stuff Oda is setting up. Rocks is just another on that list.
 
#26
not sure about details of it ... but it can be the case Shanks and all of his allies and Luffy supernovas Vs BB and New Rocks

but Oda need a good amount of time for story telling

this would be the climax of manga ... not one piece ... any manga
Very true
The arc will start though with a fun Davy Back fight between Luffy and Shanks LOL
Then a fun arc will suddenly turn into a huge mess of bloodshed!
Would be fucking great!
 
#27
Funny enough, while I don't think he's alive, Blackbeard technically has an 11th captain not yet revealed. Oda is clearly hiding this person for some reason:D
Well, there is no fucking WAY... a man who commanded WB/BM/Kaido... to be the 11th commander for a RISING YONKO yet... c'mon.. let's be real.. the dude would stay in his grave rather than be a subbordinate of someone else.. specially when his goal is to become KING OF THE WORLD... it just doesn't add up... however the plot of the 10th commander who's been a mystery is certainly a good mystery to reveal in future... if anything we can expect that this new addition IS WORTH IT for BB pirates...
 
#28
Well, there is no fucking WAY... a man who commanded WB/BM/Kaido... to be the 11th commander for a RISING YONKO yet... c'mon.. let's be real.. the dude would stay in his grave rather than be a subbordinate of someone else.. specially when his goal is to become KING OF THE WORLD... it just doesn't add up... however the plot of the 10th commander who's been a mystery is certainly a good mystery to reveal in future... if anything we can expect that this new addition IS WORTH IT for BB pirates...
oh I agree lol I was mostly joking. Likely someone new or unheard of if I'm being honest.
 
#29
I think Oda made it perfectly clear the legend he talked about was Rocks, there’s no room for interpretation at that point. However I’m not sure he will appear in Wano since Oda didn’t say this storyline would be connected to Wano arc, it was just an additional information about future events so it could happen at any time. Rocks could even appear in the Final War for all we know (maybe he’s the eyepatch guy Oda talked about).

And we don’t know what is the thing that will make Marineford look cute, it could be anything. The only certainty is it will involve Rocks.
 

Fujishiro

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#30
I know it's a long long shot but I guess it can make sense .... at least I hope


Oda is a master of foreshadow and twist , so let's see if he was able to fool us or not

I want to talk about the man behind Yonko sage
the man who made Whitebeard , Kaido and Big mom big shots
and maybe was involve with Shanks and Teach
the man who made the Yonko without knowing​


step one , let's clear some facts about Kaido war :



1- Kaido want a war ... some thing before he wanted to do before the Luffy come back
2- Kaido is sure his war is able to end the world
3- Kaido BEEN on God VALLEY ... you know , the war between Rock , Shiki , Kaido , Big mom , Prime Beard Vs Roger , Garp , maybe Dark King , maybe Sengoku and many other legends

and unlike Marine Ford is safe to assume all of those people went all out in that war
so ... Kaido BEEN ON THAT WAR .... and he was thinking his crew alone can start the biggest war this world has ever seen?

Kaido is not stupid, he know as a fact his crew is not even strongest among Yonko , that's why his dream was about create one
but even calming he can top god valley is beyond stupid ... keep in mind he didn't even had big mom back then ....




Step 2 , Let's see what Oda had to say about Wano






many people assumed this is about Imu ... and while in make sense that it be ....

this claim being about Imu have 2 major problem


1- Imu is not really as we know of , Legends are well known people with great achievements while as far as we can guess Imu is not active for 100s of years
2- Imu is not connected to Whitebeard as we know of

so the GREATEST ENEMY STRAW HATS WOULD FACE YET can be Imu and

1- Imu could be a legend in good old days
2- Imu could be connected to Whitebeard (the same Whitebeard who didn't even knew what is D until he was 50 years old)

we can at least agree this claim can be about Rock.D.Xebec

1- he is a lurking legend in one piece for sure
2- he was more than connected to Whitebeard



but wait there is more



surprising you said ...


Step 3 : Shanks meeting Gorosei





as much as people enjoy joking about this massive hype moment for plot ... we should be able to agree on some points

1- Shanks was there to warn the world about some thing great
2- Shanks was willing to go there in worst time possible ... as Gorosei said themselves
3- Shanks was going there in the same chapter Rock was introduce to the story

as much as people like to say here was there for Luffy and Teach ... it make no sense what so ever for Oda to do that

Luffy and Teach were on Imu personal target list, he would never agree to leave them alone ... nor he need some one to tell him they are danger ... the entire world know they are big and massive danger

would Oda show us Shanks going there just for a pointless cause ...





the last time Shanks bothered himself to go to meet another world power ... it was because he could foresee the Marine Ford war before everyone else

he knew who Ace really is ...
he knew Teach personality ...
and he predicted the war ...


so I'm willing to be the danger Shanks was willing to bother himself that much MUST BE GREATER WAR THAN MARINE FORD ...



Step Four : Big Mom joining Kaido

some people didn't care about details ... but there are some funny things going on in Wano



Big Mom joining Kaido seemed far too random ...

sure he is Kaido , sure he is big mom ... they have a history and both have blood lost but

- Kaido was willing to go in war with Big Mom
- Kaido wanted Big Mom dead
- Big Mom wanted Straw Hats and Straw Hats alone
- they fight

and then ....

- they both want to take over the world with joy while they seem sure about winning?


wait what

- why Big Mom joined force with Kaido for taking over the world?
- we are talking about same big mom who was carefully leading her lands for 20 years and never started a war?

- why did they stop fighting?
- why did Big Mom wanted to join Kaido side and share his goal all the sudden ...


....

as I said ... there can be answers to everything that I asked ... but it only take one answer to clear every single one of this questions


Rocks is on Wano and he is leading Kaido

1- that's why Kaido is sure he can create biggest war of the world and he can end it cause he have his old master planing everything
2- that's the man Oda was hinting to when he was talking about a lurking legend would be greatest enemy so far to Luffy
3- that's the man who can give us a surprising ending to wano by not letting Kaido and Big Mom lost but change the war
4- that's the man Shanks went to talk about win Gorosei
5- that's the man who stopped Kaido and Big Mom and make them ally, Big Mom knowing Rock is on their side was withdraw the fight , stopped caring to SHP and joined Kaido as an ally


I know it seem like a very very very twisted result for one piece Wano arc ....
but he is the only man who can up the game to titanic level and bring a true climax to Yonko Saga ...

and by true climax I'm talking about a fight among all four Yonko and Marine to stop The New Rock ...

I can easily see Teach and Shanks joining the war soon


in this way at the end of Wano ... the Wano land would be free from Kaido ... but both Kaido and Big Mom can be saved for the end game ....


can this be a reality?


p.s

and maybe this can ... improve the possibility ...




again ...

it can means Kaido as well ... as Kaido rule and Orochi is just a tool ...

but knowing "everybody know Kaido is ruler of Wano" this might be a hint


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I agree with everything you said but why would kaido listen to his old captain? Sengoku said they got several times stronger up to now so they are nowhere near their strength back then, is it respect? Cause i dont believe rocks is stronger than any of those 2. And you gotta remember it was stated that they hated each other
 
#32
I agree with everything you said but why would kaido listen to his old captain? Sengoku said they got several times stronger up to now so they are nowhere near their strength back then, is it respect? Cause i dont believe rocks is stronger than any of those 2. And you gotta remember it was stated that they hated each other
we don't know if Kaido and Big mom had problems with Rocks or how loyal they were ...
 

Fujishiro

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#35
Damn, that shit would be crazy if this was true. How the fuck are Luffy and co. Supposed to win now lol
I mean they had no chance in the first place, one yonko was iffy. When it was revealed bm allied, i was sure outside interference would be a thing. That or bm would turn on kaido and they duke it out while the alliance mops out the rest. But that would be poor writting imo.
 

Fujishiro

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#36
not sure about details of it ... but it can be the case Shanks and all of his allies and Luffy supernovas Vs BB and New Rocks

but Oda need a good amount of time for story telling

this would be the climax of manga ... not one piece ... any manga
Hawkins told luffy that his odds of survival in one month are 19%. We are in the begining or week 3. This arc could very well last a good a mount of time. For all of this to set up.
 

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#39
Interesting theory as always @Red Admiral san:sabogood:In my opinion, I still think that he is alive somehow (maybe Moria have to do something with it or he somehow unlocked Immortality Jutsu just like Orochimaru did). Anyway, if he appear in this arc then that will be a huge disadvantage for the Alliance to win this so I don't think he will appear just yet but rather in the future arc or something like that.:cheers:
 

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#40
Interesting theory as always @Red Admiral san:sabogood:In my opinion, I still think that he is alive somehow (maybe Moria have to do something with it or he somehow unlocked Immortality Jutsu just like Orochimaru did). Anyway, if he appear in this arc then that will be a huge disadvantage for the Alliance to win this so I don't think he will appear just yet but rather in the future arc or something like that.:cheers:
Why would he need immortality? They never said his age so he could very well have been younger or same age as Bm or kaido or wb
 
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