Whether or not you call a fetus a baby
it's a baby, do you not know how abortions even work?
they take twissors and rip the baby out of the womb. limb by limb
though apparently there exists other methods to execute the abortion according to what could be found by me
If we go by fetal charts, it's clearly human by a point far earlier that would be far earlier of what's suggested by left wing political pundits
Wither you think the killing is fine or not ultimately boils down to your own feelings on the matter obviously but the fact remains that it's clearly human by the least amount of time 16 weeks. I would argue 9 myself given the human form would already be developed by that point
The killing of humans has precedent with the death sentence being a thing so there's argument for it right but your not really being that nuanced or logical here.
both sides just love to spit ideologues without presenting actual arguments or reasons for things anyways just try thinking about things more before you say stuff especially when your taking my own position and adding things to it
even disabled people don't have the consciousness of a fetus
depends on the degree of the disability some are just unable of speaking such as people with mental retardation,autism and down syndrome.
We know that they are capable of consciously moving their limbs as of sixteen weeks
and they are capable of hearing by 18
From what information found suggests they are most likely conscious again wither you think it's fine to kill them or not would most certainly be subjective. you cant verify stuff like that as it's a matter of what's seen as acceptablw or not some cultures think it's okay to stone gay people others dont