Powers & Abilities Roger could not turn his Supreme Grade Sword into a Black Blade even Though he Loved his sword .......

[The Buddha]

retcon what? mihawk never went all out unlike crocodile lol
current zoro is that crazy and it s not even eos and didn t even made enma a black blade
think about mihawk lol
mihawk downplayers in the mud already they just in denial and cling to jozu and vista

I try to be open-minded, but to date I don't see that having a kokuto serves mihawk if it doesn't overwhelm anyone important and you will surely say that he wasn't trying to fight seriously even though he used the black blade and by the way Vista didn't fight seriously either...

Or will you say that he used the Yoru to let the marines see that he was trying to fulfill their agreement ...
Even though we saw Boa attacking the marines and pacifists and nothing happened to her

 

[Sentry22]

Zoro used it to scar kaido and def gonna learn to coat it next time

He used some form of CoC.
I didn’t realize was confirmed to have advance CoC?

 

[HA001]

He used some form of CoC.
I didn’t realize was confirmed to have advance CoC?

What other coc can you attack with

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

"ONE of the special characteristics"

You think if it had any better special characteristics, Roger,WB,Shiki,Shanks would work for a black blade
3/4 are stronger then mihawk

 

[Sentry22]

"ONE of the special characteristics"

What the other one then? Looks cool? Cuz it sure as hell doesn’t cut any better.

 

[Arrow]

This Black Blade stuff is dumb since no one gives a shit about Black Blades.
Yonkos and Admirals who are the top of the top don't care about Black Blades.
Not even YCs care and they all want to get stronger.

Looking at Ryuuma and Mihawk, it's probably going to be some weird shit like going on a solo journey with your sword.
If thats the requirement, then Roger, WB, Shanks, BM won't do it cause they rather be with their crew.

 

[Sentry22]

What other coc can you attack with

Did Kaido use the words Advanced CoC or that the attack had traces of CoC in it? Cuz Theoretically it would require someone to have knowledge of regular CoC to be even able to apply it in the advanced form.

For someone like Zoro who doesn’t even know he has it.

Not to mention every single person who has used Advanced CoC has been visually similar except for Zoro.

 

[Geo]

What the other one then? Looks cool? Cuz it sure as hell doesn’t cut any better.

We don't know what they are so your point is moot

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You think if it had any better special characteristics, Roger,WB,Shiki,Shanks would work for a black blade
3/4 are stronger then mihawk

Your assumption has nothing to do with the point.
Being stronger than someone does not mean all your stats are above said person

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Since geniuses here like that scene of Mihawk's speech let's take it in context :
• Mihawk said this :
This is merely a conjuncture , It seems The distance between that man and us seems rather small .

• So based on the panel we have this :
Mihawk isn't comparing only himself but there is an addition vs only one man .

us vs this man

Who was talking to mihawk in MF before he attacked WB ? Which Side did Mihawk refer to by us ? Shichibukai ? Shichibukai + Marine HQ ?

Doffy asked why Mihawk wanted to attack WB and he replied by us vs man which i will say that it represents by context here the shichibukai side vs WB then we have admirals attacking alone .

now let' reread Mihawk's statement :
the distance between us and this man is rather small so he meant by that
this man >~ Us

WB alone is >~ Shichibukai side .
= Mihawk + Doffy + Boa hancok + Moria + Kuma.

So WB alone is stronger than Shichibukai side based on Mihawk's interpretation and words whilst Oda says that :
4 Yonko ~ Marine HQ + Shichibukai .
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and that to stop 2 Yonko who allied they need either shichibukai or admirals .

what sort of force we need to stop them admirals or shichibukais .

and if WB alone is enough for Shichibukai side wouldn't that mean that The Yonko would reign supreme instead ? .

so this is just me interpreting ur words alone and also without talking about :
WSS > swordman
Mihawk > Shanks
WB alone > Shanks + Moria + Kuma + Boa hancock + Doffy .

Next time try to read better and don't spread shits like Mihawk adknowledged something while he said something like this above .



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[SmokedOut]

There's a whole lot of speculation when we don't even know how black blades are made

 

[Sentry22]

We don't know what they are so your point is moot

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We’ve seen black blades in action numerous so yes we do know. Vista using regular blade vs Mihawk using black blade.

Zoro using Shusui vs every other blade he’s ever used. The difference only exists when you look at the blades durability. It’s ability to keep it’s edge.

 

[HA001]

Did Kaido use the words Advanced CoC or that the attack had traces of CoC in it? Cuz Theoretically it would require someone to have knowledge of regular CoC to be even able to apply it in the advanced form.

For someone like Zoro who doesn’t even know he has it.

Not to mention every single person who has used Advanced CoC has been visually similar except for Zoro.

What else did he do then ? He didn't do a normal coc blast or else kaido and law would have said so. Kaido only says coc once he's hit by the attack

 

[Bogard]

Since geniuses here like that scene of Mihawk's speech let's take it in context :
• Mihawk said this :
This is merely a conjuncture , It seems The distance between that man and us seems rather small .

• So based on the panel we have this :
Mihawk isn't comparing only himself but there is an addition vs only one man .

us vs this man

Who was talking to mihawk in MF before he attacked WB ? Which Side did Mihawk refer to by us ? Shichibukai ? Shichibukai + Marine HQ ?

Doffy asked why Mihawk wanted to attack WB and he replied by us vs man which i will say that it represents by context here the shichibukai side vs WB then we have admirals attacking alone .

now let' reread Mihawk's statement :
the distance between us and this man is rather small so he meant by that
this man >~ Us

WB alone is >~ Shichibukai side .
= Mihawk + Doffy + Boa hancok + Moria + Kuma.

So WB alone is stronger than Shichibukai side based on Mihawk's interpretation and words whilst Oda says that :
4 Yonko ~ Marine HQ + Shichibukai .
+
and that to stop 2 Yonko who allied they need either shichibukai or admirals .

what sort of force we need to stop them admirals or shichibukais .

and if WB alone is enough for Shichibukai side wouldn't that mean that The Yonko would reign supreme instead ? .

so this is just me interpreting ur words alone and also without talking about :
WSS > swordman
Mihawk > Shanks
WB alone > Shanks + Moria + Kuma + Boa hancock + Doffy .

Next time try to read better and don't spread shits like Mihawk adknowledged something while he said something like this above .



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Not sure what you mean by this post, you missed the point of that comparison. The point is that if Mihawk thought the gap was smaller than he imagined, possibly due to noticing WB's decline in strength, then it indirectly means that he viewed Primebeard's strength as higher than them(regardless of which the "us" statement was referring to, considering WB's hype only places Roger as his equal).

That was the point, but even if we ignore this statement, Whitebeard was known as the WSM, so even in terms of titles, WB's is higher in the food-chain.

So not sure what's hard to understand about Mihawk being portrayed weaker than Prime Whitebeard(and thus Roger as well) in the manga. And it's not just a Mihawk thing. All top tiers are portrayed below them. Mihawk might be in the top 5 strongest, just not as strong as Roger / Primebeard

 

[Sentry22]

What else did he do then ? He didn't do a normal coc blast or else kaido and law would have said so. Kaido only says coc once he's hit by the attack

Kaido’s guessing like the rest of us which means he is unsure about what the attack was. But we know what Advanced CoC looks like and that is not what he did.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

That is completely made up head cannon yet again.



We’ve already been told what a black blade is. You guys are the ones saying it’s something else.

We’ve had the explanation done several times.

You think Mihawk has done anything special with Yoru? If so why are Jozu and Vista not already sliced up into tiny pieces of Confetti?

harness is one of the special characteristics of the black blade= there has another abillity
Really it's necessary to explain everythinh

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"ONE of the special characteristics"

they don't know to read

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You think if it had any better special characteristics, Roger,WB,Shiki,Shanks would work for a black blade
3/4 are stronger then mihawk

please the same zoro is said than the black blade have another abillity

 

[Sentry22]

harness is one of the special characteristics of the black blade= there has another abillity
Really it's necessary to explain everythinh

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Characteristics are visible they are not hidden. So what other characteristics are you expecting Black blades to have?

You guys treat Black blades as if they are their own seperate branch of haki when it is just a skill in the Armament tree. It's not like CoC or Observation haki where it has multiple applications.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Characteristics are visible they are not hidden. So what other characteristics are you expecting Black blades to have?

You guys treat Black blades as if they are their own seperate branch of haki when it is just a skill in the Armament tree. It's not like CoC where it has multiple applications.

why didn't see because zoro is too weaker to have black blade (shusui is ryuma sword) when zoro will make his black swords don't worry we will see why black blade are the strongest swords

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Not sure what you mean by this post, you missed the point of that comparison. The point is that if Mihawk thought the gap was smaller than he imagined, possibly due to noticing WB's decline in strength, then it indirectly means that he viewed Primebeard's strength as higher than them(regardless of which the "us" statement was referring to, considering WB's hype only places Roger as his equal).

This man > Us
Wb > Shichibukai side
So WB alone > Mihawk ( > Shanks ) + Doffy + Moria + Kuma + Boa hancock
nice logic we have here

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That was the point, but even if we ignore this statement, Whitebeard was known as the WSM, so even in terms of titles, WB's is higher in the food-chain.

So not sure what's hard to understand about Mihawk being portrayed weaker than Prime Whitebeard(and thus Roger as well) in the manga. And it's not just a Mihawk thing. All top tiers are portrayed below them. Mihawk might be in the top 5 strongest, just not as strong as Roger / Primebeard

I'm just using the proof you used from the statement :
Mihawk said us ( shichibukai ) not me .

Which means WB Alone is enough for the shichibukai while oda also says :
4 emperors = Marine HQ + Shichibukai

To stop 2 emperors allying we need either Shichibukai or Admirals and btw :
2 Prime emperors >>>> Primebeard >~ Oldbeard > Sick beard ( MF )

 

[Sentry22]

why didn't see because zoro is too weaker to have black blade (shusui is ryuma sword) when zoro will make his black swords don't worry we will see why black blade are the strongest swords

Except like I said before, the world's strongest swordsman who has a black blade is seen fighting Vista and yet he had no tactical advantage over him.

 

[CbShadow]

But the manga says that the attack on WB was the strongest slashing attack in the world and he had those green rays and even so Jozu stopped him without a full body diamond and Vista forced him to postpone the fight and Vista does not have a black blade and neither use a serious attack on mihawk

Also mihawk said he wouldn't restrict himself and if he can cut whatever he wants then what happened to Jozu, Buggy and Vista?

Are you going to say the garbage of flesh and blood?

So, please, explain to me, what was the use of having a kokuto for mihawk?

This argument again. How many times have this been countered.


Mihawk never stated that was his strongest slash, just some random person.

Jozu was in diamond mode when he blocked the attack. We see his body after the attack and the only part not covered in diamond was the left side of his face.

Vista never forced him to postpone. Mihawk chose to postpone the battle, who Vista agreed, so he could test Vista away from the battle because Marines where attacking everyone, friend or foe.

Who said you need a Black blade to clash with black blade user? Think about it. Do you believe you need adv CoC to fight and injured Kaido, an adv CoC user. The weakest person in the world could still attack Kaido.

Mihawk did restrict himself during the war. His ery first attack against Luffy was a light attack with his eyes closed.

What's the benefit of a Black blade? We don't know all of the benefits or how it's created. We know one benefit to using it, it makes the sword so strong it doesn't break. That benefit applies to anyone using a black blade.

A black blade could be the results of obtaining the ability to cut anything or nothing. The Pinnacle of swordsmanship. Obtaining that ability make your sword unbreakable because it takes on the user will unbreakable and unyielding will.

Why must everything about a black blade be explained right now? There's still plenty of time. We are still getting new information about the manga.