I have few questions for some players. Two players in this post and few in next.
I will start with the my favorite
@TheAncientCenturion
Yesterday, during day two, we discussed that we can't rely on results and we have to focus on reads as results can be framed.
Yet, today you immediately jumped on voting queen without asking for Queen claim. Why so much in hurry?
Infact,if I remember well the reason you sussed
@Cinera was that he immediately casted vote on you believing flower claim. You did something similar. So why we shouldn't sus you?
I'm just gonna preface this with the following: A lot of what you're questioning me about would be answered if you read my posts and understood the situation. It's odd for an attentive player like you to be so quiet in a game and to make such poor questions. Take that in whatever direction you want.
To answer you—
Yesterday I said that any results we receive from choreographed investigations cannot and should not be believed. E.g., if I ask Nat to investigate you and she comes back with results that you're XYZ, we can't possibly believe that.
I addressed why I lean more towards believing in NeutralWatcher's investigation early on, and keep in mind I hadn't known that Paladin can be corrupted.
He's Paladin, so I am assuming he investigated her last night. The odds of Queen being framed that very same night over more vocal players (myself, Reborn, not sure if Cinera can be converted but let's throw him in too) is unlikely.
How has Queen been playing? Has anyone kept a look on her?
So exactly as I said it. The odds of the Cult and NeutralWatcher randomly picking the same target seems too low to be the automatic answer. So we had a source that—at the time—I took as infallible making a bold claim where I would need to be paranoid to assume she was framed.
Another issue is you flip flopped a lot. From kiwi to queen to unvote very quickly?
Then to queen and unvoted her as well.
So again, this is where you're particularly ringing some alarms here. Because I wrote already in this thread why I decided to unvote Queen.
That's understandable. I don't like flip flopping / hastily voting because of that impression it gives. My entire reason to lynch Queen is based on my trust for @NeutralWatcher. If he thinks he made a flaw and is willing to unvote, I don't have any ground to stand on to pursue my lynch (as of now). Based on how Queen reacts later though, I'd be happy to put a vote back on her. Krog's description of her posts in this game leaves a lot wanting.
So at this point Reborn, it feels like you aren't reading the thread. Maybe just not thoroughly enough, I can sympathize. Mistakes happen, but this is 2/2 here. As for the Kiwi vote, I think I made it abundantly clear in every day phase that I'm not trusting Kiwi too much. I think she's better this phase in terms of being active and vocal, but to what end? No idea. My original intention was to pressure Kiwi into talking / acting... As I told Cinera, here.
Put pressure onto Kiwi to act / talk more. She can ignore me / it but I feel like Day 3 is a little far into the game for me to still be unclear about Kiwi's allegiances.
So... 3/3?
You're
either not reading my posts very thoroughly, not reading this thread very thoroughly, or you're making intentional mistakes to lead people on about me. Because everything you've questioned about me has been answered prettttttty sufficiently in the thread. So much so that I wouldn't even need extra text to satisfy your questions, I could literally just quote my old messages from this day phase and you'd be fine.
Apart from this, there is something else I noticed (highlighted part)and I want you to answer that.
Let me jot down for you.
1)Unless queen has something to contradict neutral, you will going to Lynch her. Then why immediately after Neutral watcher said something about mind warp and unvoted( let me remind you that you were already aware yesterday about result could be framed) you unvoted queen as well instead of waiting for queen to counter neutral as you said in earlier post??
2) you said to Neutral that you don't like flopping but didn't you flip flop votes in quick succession ?? So, based on your own reasoning don't you think we have reasons to sus you?
So let's say this in more overt tones;
You think I am suspicious for
not keeping my vote on Queen, because the primary (
read: only) reason to suspect Queen of being scum doubts his own results? You think I should stay consistent with that opinion? Because it feels like that's the direction you're going here. Yes, flip flopping isn't ideal and I don't like it. It gives a flippant attitude about voting and makes a player seem too eager to vote. But I had valid reasons for what I did.
Unless, like I said, you think I should've kept my vote on Queen for the sake of not flip flopping, but having no grounds to be suspicious enough of her to lynch her.
In regards to the framed bit, it's fair to say I didn't know Mind warp was an ability and thought the framed results would come via Cult making the
investigated party appear as scum, not making everything NeutralWatcher investigates appear as scum.
