[FNZ] Role Madness Round 11: Covid - 19

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Phew... there is too much wrong with this post.

Let's start with this, posting my thoughts on someone's alignment or a certain incident might only cause confusion if I didn't validate it in any shape or way first, so I'm usually very considerate in what I'm saying. Sometimes I can present a conclusion without evidence in hand because it might be counterproductive. I can't blindly give you reads when I'm not either sure about them or I think it's a good time to present them.


I'm not sure why you're trying to see things with only one angle. There isn't one way of engaging and trying to find scum. Generating reads early on based little posts, and ending the argument when you feel like it's not necessary to do is not scum inductive, it's about generating content from what got or engage in things the way you desire, everyone doesn't like doing debates for the sake of debate. I don't see why you can't see that, and focusing on nonsense like "You back down from that discussion". It's such a contrived reason to suspect someone.

Not only do scum rarely try to back down from arguments, but scum also loves to bus people and never try to back down from their argument... because their main agenda is to appear "consistent"


I am not sure how I am avoiding attention when I have the highest post count in this thread and clearly asking questions that I want to ask.

Also, I have said it before I will say it again. As long as we can't lynch two scums in one DP, there's no need to focus on more than one, especially if it's Rej like a case where he's obvious scum. Right I will do is look other players gameplay and if something strikes me bad I will address that if either my mind change on Rej or he's lynched since doing any sooner than that is usless


Lmao, why are being no fun? You can engage me on that, feel free to do that. Honestly, if I ask you your reads(Which I rarely do) you're allowed to say you can't right now, I don't really expect people to actually provide me reads because I am kinda stick to my own cases until the bitter end


How do you plan to generate reads? You do that by asking questions, while the same tactic could be used to appear as town therefore I didn't like Drago one-liner questions there because they were hardly worth it.


However, and more importantly, for another reason, i just want to take a break here to underline the fact that your
alone is filled with many misconceptions - in bold - that someone like me would call convenient reasonings. You can go back and read the page I suspected Rej way before and Rej was not even on me in any form way or shape before that.
I will take a look on it
however I dont see a towni backing down from a conversation based on a lie
you did quote drago
and you did ask him specifically how he planned on generating convo.


"I don't really expect people to actually provide me reads because I am kinda stick to my own cases until the bitter end"
you asked for drago's read on certain players and nat's read on you
you werent expecting a response?

"I'm not sure why you're trying to see things with only one angle. There isn't one way of engaging and trying to find scum. Generating reads early on based little posts, and ending the argument when you feel like it's not necessary to do is not scum inductive, it's about generating content from what got or engage in things the way you desire, everyone doesn't like doing debates for the sake of debate. I don't see why you can't see that, and focusing on nonsense like "You back down from that discussion". It's such a contrived reason to suspect someone."
thats great. but I will not take advice from you while we are playing the same game because that could be beneficial to how I see you.
sure backing down isnt scum indicative but its the way and manner you did so. would you say sussing someone like rej for a bomb comment is not contrived ?
lmao.
 
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I will take a look on it
however I dont see a towni backing down from a conversation based on a lie
you did quote drago
and you did ask him specifically how he planned on generating convo.
There is simple misinterpretation here... I was trying to generate a discussion with my basic questions... and when drago said why i am saying this I simply said "Do you have any other way to spark discussion" yes maybe I was not clear with wording but that was my intention

however I dont see a towni backing down from a conversation based on a lie
based on a lie? lol
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would you say sussing someone like rej for a bomb comment is not contrived ?
In my case yes... that post was forced as hell
 
This post giving me heebie jeebies lol. It doesn't feel natural at all
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Nah. I wasn't asking for you strategy but how do you plan to spark activity with no one to post in discussion beside us for now so you just need to give them a topic to discuss and this where the knives will come out
noctis this is you talking to drago
and this is your response when he probes further

I was not specifically asking you it just you happen to be the first one to quote my post
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Are you oblivious to the things I was trying to say? I did not ask you to spark the activity but it's more about how do you plan to give players something to talk about? I was trying to set up a very easy subject to discuss for players hence my take on the cult post. I like reading people takes on posts like that and I believe those posts are usually the juiciest of all. It's where scum is the least comfortable and analyzing them is very useful. Basic idea is that you need a sizable amount of content from someone to generate a read is nonsense, you can generate them and thoughts from anything because most of the stuff is alignment indicative one way or the other generally. SO even most basic topics help you to see things from different perspectives... so that was my take on sparking the activity. Nice and easy.


Fair Enough.
 
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noctis this is you talking to drago
and this is your response when he probes further
Dude... that just means if someone else would react to my post in the same manner I would have asked the same question. Also, reconsider your case, right now you're shooting in the dark
 
There is simple misinterpretation here... I was trying to generate a discussion with my basic questions... and when drago said why i am saying this I simply said "Do you have any other way to spark discussion" yes maybe I was not clear with wording but that was my intention


based on a lie? lol
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In my case yes... that post was forced as hell
this isnt a lie?
I have you quoting drago above mate and your first response was clarifying your question to him
not your last response which was" not quoting him at all".
 
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There is simple misinterpretation here... I was trying to generate a discussion with my basic questions... and when drago said why i am saying this I simply said "Do you have any other way to spark discussion" yes maybe I was not clear with wording but that was my intention
You can spark discussion like asking question to players or voting someone to gain his/her reaction. I think that's not the way you play but I think that's the more effective way to gain scum radar.
 
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this isnt a lie?
I have you quoting drago above mate and your first response was clarifying your question to him
not your last response which was" not quoting him at all".
Please can you craft your post in a manner that I can understand... my little brain can't comprehend
 
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You can spark discussion like asking question to players or voting someone to gain his/her reaction. I think that's not the way you play but I think that's the more effective way to gain scum radar.
I play differently in every game just to try out new playstyles... right now I am trying the gameplay where I said what comes to my mind lol
 
Please can you craft your post in a manner that I can understand... my little brain can't comprehend
look above mate
you quote drago and ask him how he plans on attracting activity
he says its weird and ask why its him specifically. at this point you dont clarify you didnt mean him at all. instead you only clarify your question.
when drago ask you the same, you say you didnt quote him specifically and insist on letting the convo go.
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who insulted who?
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It's useless. feels like once Lanji decides on something he overrides reasonings, it would be more efficient energy-wise to just to not engage with him lol.
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look above mate
you quote drago and ask him how he plans on attracting activity
he says its weird and ask why its him specifically. at this point you dont clarify you didnt mean him at all. instead you only clarify your question.
when drago ask you the same, you say you didnt quote him specifically and insist on letting the convo go.
I simply stated that I would have asked the same question any of the players who would quote my post... Drago just happen to be that any player
 
"Nah. I wasn't asking for you strategy but how do you plan to spark activity with no one to post in discussion beside us for now so you just need to give them a topic to discuss and this where the knives will come out"
this was your first response to drago implying you wanted him to spark the convo .
you would have perhaps . you didnt.
and that being your reason to cut the conversation short is sus. my vote stay on you
you are right
am hard to move.
 
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and that being your reason to cut the conversation short is sus.
I believe Lanji you had expectation from town here and think the reply would have been different... can you tell us that different reply
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@Dragomir I am expecting a development on your read on Lanji... do you have any?
 

"I didnt quote you specifically"
pls explain how this is off reasoning.

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I believe Lanji you had expectation from town here and think the reply would have been different... can you tell us that different reply
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@Dragomir I am expecting a development on your read on Lanji... do you have any?
here another one of your reponses
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I was not specifically asking you it just you happen to be the first one to quote my post
 
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You know what sucks here? I kind feel you aren't scum, but you're not playing great and being paranoid over my reasoning or questions.
 
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I think is the conversation between Lanji and Dragomir that made Lanji sus Noctis.

Honestly, I could see this statement as a wild attempt to throw shade on a player.
Anyways, let's take it easy and slow, we have all the time ahead of us.
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About setup, sounds like a double-edged sword if there is a cult, favorable if you get rid of cult D1 while unfavorable consequences if they survived D1 and start recruiting people. So I wouldn't rule out 20 players game with cult theory, it's very much possible we have full-fledged mafia or even different factions that go against the town
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Also the shop mechanic seems like an additional part where you can buy as such masks, hand cleaner, etc which make sense with lore
1. That's not really a double-edged sword. Cult is always like that.
2. This is all very obvious. It's favorable for town to rid of Cult D1 and it'd be detrimental if they stay in the game for long. Why are you pointing out such basic knowledge?
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Do you actually find it suspicious? If so, why?
Correct. That's exactly why I think chances of the cult being in this game is very low or either they're alongside some other harmful faction because I don't think it's very favorable if we only have a cult and also how do you plan to engage in the discussion?
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Or to be exact, how do you plan to start a discussion
@Dragomir Not sure if your queries are really meaningful, or you're just skeptic about everything.
I don't think we're having just cult either. Cultafia is the faction I'm assuming for this game.

That's a weird question to ask. It's like asking what my strategy for the day phase is going to be. I'm not comfortable with revealing that. Figure it out yourself as you watch me play.

Yeah, I know what the phrase was. I'm asking why it pinged you.
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If you go back and read the advice I gave to the players in your turbo game, you will understand why I'm playing the way I am.
This post giving me heebie jeebies lol. It doesn't feel natural at all
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Nah. I wasn't asking for you strategy but how do you plan to spark activity with no one to post in discussion beside us for now so you just need to give them a topic to discuss and this where the knives will come out
Why do I need to be the one to do that? Why can't you spark the activity?
I'm sorry, I understand what you're saying, and I know you're gonna say next, so i'm not really gonna prolonged this exchange further. I'm pretty sure you already understand what I was try to say lol.

Though I do wanna ask what do you think about krogothwolf and Rej so far
I do understand your question, but I don't understand why you're specifically asking me that. You're asking me how do I plan on sparking discussing right? I'm responding back by asking why do I need to be the one to do that as well as why you can't do it yourself. Do you understand now?

Nothing. I need them to answer my questions first before I can formulate an opinion.


Are you oblivious to the things I was trying to say? I did not ask you to spark the activity but it's more about how do you plan to give players something to talk about? I was trying to set up a very easy subject to discuss for players hence my take on the cult post. I like reading people takes on posts like that and I believe those posts are usually the juiciest of all. It's where scum is the least comfortable and analyzing them is very useful. Basic idea is that you need a sizable amount of content from someone to generate a read is nonsense, you can generate them and thoughts from anything because most of the stuff is alignment indicative one way or the other generally. SO even most basic topics help you to see things from different perspectives... so that was my take on sparking the activity. Nice and easy.


Fair Enough.
Fam, I understood what you meant. Those are the questions I wanted to ask in return. Can you answer them?
I was not specifically asking you it just you happen to be the first one to quote my post
I think the bolded part is the reason why Lanji sus Noctis. lanji took a big gamble here if he is indeed mafia.

@TheAncientCenturion You said Lanji is scum. How do you think when you saw these quotes especially the bolded part?

@Dragomir You said Lanji and Rej are scum. What do you think about these posts in bolded part that made Lanji sus Noctis?

I think Noctis is neutral for now. Rej is more sus.
 
You know what sucks here? I kind feel you aren't scum, but you're not playing great and being paranoid over my reasoning or questions.
not being paranoid
dont care how you feel
you are the one contradicting yourself in the post I screenshotted.
and that was done to avoid giving a clear answer to the counter question drago asked you mate.
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not being paranoid
dont care how you feel
you are the one contradicting yourself in the post I screenshotted.
and that was done to avoid giving a clear answer to the counter question drago asked you mate.
I don't really get what answer you wanted me to give... You can go to any universe and my answer will stay same.... There is nothing to mull over.
 
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