Character Discussion Sanji being part of the Monster Trio despite not having a strength related dream is very impressive

#22
All thanks to his dear old daddy!

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Sanji would end up this strong anyways. Just because Oda happened to find creatively interesting to explore the Vinsmoke plot doesn't mean that an alternate One Piece would make him weaker; he'd just find another way. I mean, I highly doubt Oda introduced this subplot for powerscalers to bash the character.

Enma did a good job nerfing zoro like king said but once zoro tamed it,it was over in a minute.
Pretty sure Enma only nerfed Zoro when something unusual happened, like sensing the rythm of Oden's song. Otherwise it's more like a risky asset that allowed Zoro to reach a power output without precedent.
 
#24
becoming the pirate king is also "strength related" dream


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Pretty sure Enma only nerfed Zoro when something unusual happened, like sensing the rythm of Oden's song
wrong , enma was acting up because it was testing zoro and zoro was doubting himself , the shamisen has nothing to do with that

 
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#27
Why is monster trio itself impressive let alone a manga where it doesn't matter if someone trains or not.... they can just be as strong as plot requires.
It would mean an actual post to look into if training actually mattered in one piece.
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Naruto much better world than one piece for rock lee
 
#28
Sanji would end up this strong anyways. Just because Oda happened to find creatively interesting to explore the Vinsmoke plot doesn't mean that an alternate One Piece would make him weaker; he'd just find another way. I mean, I highly doubt Oda introduced this subplot for powerscalers to bash the character.
That's like saying without Garp, Coby would have gotten as strong as he is now. No, he fucking wouldn't have. Sanji has áctual superpowers purely because of his daddy. If he is born as the son of some random cook? He won't have his exoskeleton bullshit to save his ass against Queen.
 
#37
That's like saying without Garp, Coby would have gotten as strong as he is now. No, he fucking wouldn't have. Sanji has áctual superpowers purely because of his daddy. If he is born as the son of some random cook? He won't have his exoskeleton bullshit to save his ass against Queen.
If Oda intended Coby to end up as strong as an admiral because becoming one is his dream, of course he would have given him a plot so he could achieve it without Garp. If Sanji was born the son of some random cook Oda would have given him whatever power you want to think of because he's bound to be this strong as one of the most powerful main characters.

It's pointless to bash Sanji for Oda's choice. As a character, from a meta perspective, he was bound to become this strong anyways and the narrative the author followed is still impressive because he sees him as a cook who dreams with the All Blue yet is capable of growing top strength.
 
#38
Judges modifications are impressive indeed
Enma is even more impressive as it carries a trash swordsman
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Nice try yet Sanji isn't getting the same treatment as Zoro :laughmoji:
Amd when he does? Can’t wait to see you bitch and moan like the little pansy you are
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Zoro is set to be among the strongest characters in the verse since the start of the manga alongside Luffy.
With no acoc, Sanji cant reach the pinacle of strength, he Can only be low top tier at best.
Of course he will Always be one of the 3-5 top fighters among the crew. Nor Luffy neither zoro Can neg diff hum but, I cant see eos Sanji being equal to kaido. However eos zoro > kaido is very realistic
Headcanon
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Not really, he was born strong. Didn’t have to work hard for anything
How was he “born strong” Big Mom must’ve knocked sone screws lose not only to kid but his fans as well

Sanji is a trained martial artist. Kid relies on DF powers DIDNT train at all and he’s like 23……Sanji just now got body modifications after 21 years…..clown comment
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Can sanji+zoro beat bm? Probably huh...
Sanji would carry like Law did tbh
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Why is monster trio itself impressive let alone a manga where it doesn't matter if someone trains or not.... they can just be as strong as plot requires.
It would mean an actual post to look into if training actually mattered in one piece.
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Naruto much better world than one piece for rock lee
“Much better world than one piece” but what has it accomplished in all honesty? Lee did all that training just to do nothing and be off screened 90% of the time
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That's like saying without Garp, Coby would have gotten as strong as he is now. No, he fucking wouldn't have. Sanji has áctual superpowers purely because of his daddy. If he is born as the son of some random cook? He won't have his exoskeleton bullshit to save his ass against Queen.
Same could be said with enma
No enma=no extra magical ap
No enma=no ACoC
Keep crying lil bitch
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Nobody apart from Zoro & luffy have strength related dreams lol and he's below both in power. Does not mean much at all :suresure:
He’s above Zoro keep crying
 
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