Speculations Sanji's 1v1 will be against a tobi roppo or a number

#23
I think there will be many different battles, since this is a war, not a group of 6 infiltrating and getting confronted by 7 very strong people they had to surpass and beat. There is Law, Kidd, wildcards like Drake, Hawkins, Apoo, the retainers, minks, samurai etc., vs not one, but 2 yonko.

I think it would be more like Marineford. All 3 admirals attacked Whitebeard at some point, Marco attacked every admiral, Crocodile attacked everyone, Hancock attacked everyone who touched Luffy and so on. It looks like the forces are splitting up (and atleast one additional is probably on their way) so we might see lots of different clashes, but in the end it will be Sanji finishing Queen and Zoro finishing King. Still not sure about Jack, leaning towards Jimbei. Odens retainers will for sure go for Kaido, but it will be the supernova that ultimately defeat him
 
#24
I agree with the main post thread, i don't think Sanji or Zoro can fight Queen and King in a 1v1 even with a power up. This is not Enies Lobby, i think the fights will go like Luffy Law vs Doflamingo went or straight 2v1. Sanji and Drake vs Queen, Zoro and Marco vs King, Jinbei and Ashura Douji vs Jack. I would be alright with Sanji fighting the head of the Tobiroppo in a 1v1 if he's 4th yonko commander, maybe Sanji can defeat him extreme diff.

Reiju and Robin vs the female Tobiroppo
 
#25
Can we stop this already? It’s obvious Zoro will fight King and Sanji will fight Queen :luuh:
Where in the manga is it stated that Zoro and Sanji will specifically 1v1 King and Queen. King and Queen are set up to be final bosses alongside Kaido and Big Mom and we are in an arc with multiple supernova and powerful characters. Not to mention the fact that the calamities arguably have better portrayal than the sweet commanders

I don't think it makes much sense for them to 1v1. I'm even doubting zoro vs king. Zoro has better feats than sanji in the NW, he has defeated two mid tiers whereas Sanji has defeated none. However he still hasn't even beat a single YC, so it doesn't make sense for him to automatically fight someone that strong.

it makes more sense imo for us to have Zoro vs Jack or Smoothie, Sanji vs Kaido's 4th strongest(whomever that may be), and then have King and Queen be team efforts with Zoro and Sanji possibly landing the finishing blows.
 
#26
Is half this forum's posts just bait? Luffy will fight Kaido, Zoro will fight King, Sanji will fight Queen, Jinbe will fight Jack. That's a given. Yonko Commanders just ain't shit. Katakuri needed CoC and 30 pages of hype to differentiate himself from them.
Why in the bluest of all the blue hells would Jinbe fight Jack, given that we know Inuarashi and Nekomamushi are going to tag him for what he did on Zou? Why should Jinbe fight someone of lower strength than someone else he’s stronger than? Why in the sam hell is Sanji going to end up fighting someone that we’ve seen he probably isn’t ready for?

Jinbe is going to end up fighting Queen. Bulk vs bulk. He might even solo Queen, as based on what we’ve seen, he’s probably the only one of the SH’s that can.
 
#27
Why in the bluest of all the blue hells would Jinbe fight Jack, given that we know Inuarashi and Nekomamushi are going to tag him for what he did on Zou? Why should Jinbe fight someone of lower strength than someone else he’s stronger than? Why in the sam hell is Sanji going to end up fighting someone that we’ve seen he probably isn’t ready for?

Jinbe is going to end up fighting Queen. Bulk vs bulk. He might even solo Queen, as based on what we’ve seen, he’s probably the only one of the SH’s that can.
idk about that either

I honestly feel as if nobody is going to 1v1 the calamities. They have too much hype, they're too important. It just makes much more sense if they fall via tag team.
 
#28
idk about that either

I honestly feel as if nobody is going to 1v1 the calamities. They have too much hype, they're too important. It just makes much more sense if they fall via tag team.
I don’t think anyone will either. Just saying that out of any of the SH’s, the only one that might be able to do so would be Jinbe. Though my reasoning for nobody soloing is just the sheer numbers of people involved. Way too many for anyone to get solo fights, and honestly, if Luffy’s about to have a group fight, why shouldn’t the rest? At least at the top, anyway. I can see Robin, Nami, Franky, Brook, etc getting solo fight against lesser enemies. And if Sanji’s fight is against Page One or another Tobbi Roppo, that’ll probably be solo as well. Unless all the factions join all the way up and down the line, then nobody will get one, and we’ll see a lot of 1 v 1 v 1’s.
 
#29
I don’t think anyone will either. Just saying that out of any of the SH’s, the only one that might be able to do so would be Jinbe. Though my reasoning for nobody soloing is just the sheer numbers of people involved. Way too many for anyone to get solo fights, and honestly, if Luffy’s about to have a group fight, why shouldn’t the rest? At least at the top, anyway. I can see Robin, Nami, Franky, Brook, etc getting solo fight against lesser enemies. And if Sanji’s fight is against Page One or another Tobbi Roppo, that’ll probably be solo as well. Unless all the factions join all the way up and down the line, then nobody will get one, and we’ll see a lot of 1 v 1 v 1’s.
on kaidos crew we have 6 topi roppo 3 yonko commanders and a new card and the numbers and on bigmoms side we have 1 yonko commander and daifuku perospero and a bunch of her kids we also have kanjaro orochi and his ninjas i think its enough for the SH to have a 1v1
 
#32
Luffy also is no match for Kaidou n we know he will fight him. Z n S can easily do the same. Ofcrs it could take help, bt they are fighting em.
Sanji is a guy who has never had a single all out fight post-ski
More reason we don't know his true PL.
Page was at least a mid diff fight for him
And now you think another of those can give the final arc fight to Sanji, when thr latter is aldo supposed to go all out and hav3 more PUs?
Sanji was also getting pushed into a corner by Drake's full dinosaur form,
that he would need to use his raid suit at the very least if he even hoped at matching hybrid drake.
I disagree. Sanji wasn't even being focused on Drake and it was casual Base Sanji.

Plus Drake is SN, he obviously is above the rest of Tobbi roppo n is hiding in his true strength. So if Sanji needs RS to deal with his Hybrid form, that still don't reflect badly on Sanji.
At the very least there seem to be 3 tobi roppo who are above Drake and Page.
Nope.
Then there are the numbers, who are portrayed as very powerful with them being enough to stall Neko and Inu 20 years ago.
20 years ago, all RS arround same lvl, that is current Kinnemom, Raizo PLs. Good bt not impressive.
And finally you have Kaido jr who is a total wildcard. While Kaido jr could simply be another Helmeppo type character, If he is strong, he would likely fall into the YC4 range, which would make him perfect for Sanji.
Only thing i agree with if it turns out true that is. Kaidou Jr is imp character, and if PLs allow Sanji to fight n beat him, i wouldn't mind the fight. But that most likely won't be the case.

Unless Oda trolls with him, Kaidou Jr, most likely will be Low Top Tier, he's the one with most Potential out of Beast Pirates, and is only below Kaidou n BM, because of lack of experience n not being at Prime yet.
 
#34
on kaidos crew we have 6 topi roppo 3 yonko commanders and a new card and the numbers and on bigmoms side we have 1 yonko commander and daifuku perospero and a bunch of her kids we also have kanjuro orochi and his ninjas i think its enough for the SH to have a 1v1
That’s way too many. Either Big Mom’s crew is going to mingle with Kaido’s crew, and the 1v1’s will turn into matches with multiple people on either side, or at some point Big Mom and Kaido will split, and it’ll be Big Mom’s crew vs Kaido’s crew vs the alliance. There’s too many people.
If zoro solo a commander then sanji will do it as well because oda doesn't separate these 2 guys.
You mean like he did in this latest chapter?
 
#35
That’s way too many. Either Big Mom’s crew is going to mingle with Kaido’s crew, and the 1v1’s will turn into matches with multiple people on either side, or at some point Big Mom and Kaido will split, and it’ll be Big Mom’s crew vs Kaido’s crew vs the alliance. There’s too many people.

You mean like he did in this latest chapter?
They both defeated fodders. So what is your point? Hell sanji even looked more casual, not a good argument tbh.
 
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#40
Lol first of all Queen is below Cracker.
Second of all, King and Queen arent main villains of the saga!
Third of all, Oda wont waste Kaido Jr on Sanji! Or Zoro! Never ever!

Now, I agree Sanji will solo the strongest flyer/Veteran on Wano , if he fights a commander, he wont solo.

I've been writing it, Characters fights in WCI & Wano :
Luffy in WCI fought Cracker (high high tier)----> Then Kata (Inbetweener)
Wano :
*Law fought Hawkins (Low high tier) -----> Vs King/Smoothie (high high tiers) or just straight vs Kaido/BM
*Zoro fought Kamazou ( top Vet) -----> vs Smoothie/Orochi
*Sanji fought P1 (top Vet) ----> Finale Vs Strongest flyer (low high tier) or Drake (mid high tier) since he has build up.
*Kidd Vs Apoo (mid high tier) or Queen/Smoothie ---> finale vs Kaido/BM

Based on the people they face, Apoo has been held by Oda till act 3 for a reason, he has then with Kaido the longest than drakeand Hawkins, he also rivals Kidd. He is the strongest SN under Kaido. Hawkins under Jack, Drake under Queen, Apoo under King or he is in charge of Numbers.
Apoo>=Drake>Hawkins>=Killer>P1~Kamazou
 
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