Powers & Abilities Sanji's abilities are boring or redundant.

#42
Taunted by doflamingo and oven.
Because Doflamingo is fast and unpredictable himself, especially parasite. And Sanji being good at CoO doesn't mean his CoO is at the peak. And what about Oven? He blitzed Oven so fast he didn't even realize what happened.
Still did nit answer the question how does the fire help him
It gives him greater attack potency and speed. His attacks also have various applications. Like Hell Memories setting the target ablaze in the process. Against Jabra, the fire burned through the flesh and reached the bones. As such it is more versatile and effective than many other fire-based abilities. Dunno where the hate comes from.
 
#43
i will say this, its not even sanji fault, he has one of the most unique and cool fighting style out there, but oda doesn't always deliver , cause lets be real, oda really suck at fight scenes, that's why the man relies to many offscreen, if you compare his work to other manga, even fairy tale shits on him. his idea's of good fights was only selected on MC, which is sad cause OP is a battle manga.
 

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#44
NO BRO NOT THE DEVIL FRUIT

I'm tired of suggesting to non users eating devil fruits. It is just,,, Lazy man. Besides I don't think he even would try that if it was not the invisible one which he always wanted but as we know, CURTAIN SOMEONE HAS IT NOW and if he wanted it he would had to kill the guy and find a way how the hell Blackbeard slurps the fruits out of humans.
 
#45
Because Doflamingo is fast and unpredictable himself, especially parasite. And Sanji being good at CoO doesn't mean his CoO is at the peak. And what about Oven? He
Bro doffy told him that his kick were weak.

It gives him greater attack potency and speed. His attacks also have various applications. Like Hell Memories setting the target ablaze in the process. Against Jabra, the fire burned through the flesh and reached the bones. As such it is more versatile and effective than many other fire-based abilities. Dunno where the hate comes from.
Because it is a dollar store version of fire
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NO BRO NOT THE DEVIL FRUIT

I'm tired of suggesting to non users eating devil fruits. It is just,,, Lazy man. Besides I don't think he even would try that if it was not the invisible one which he always wanted but as we know, CURTAIN SOMEONE HAS IT NOW and if he wanted it he would had to kill the guy and find a way how the hell Blackbeard slurps the fruits out of humans.
Ovens devil fruit is in alignment with his devil portrayal.If sanji gets something like enel who can channel his debil fruit through an external thing sanji with ovens fruit can be pretty op. Plus imagine the awakening. Sanji will be the real king of hell
 
#48
You proved my point though. His fire is useless if it is weak and there are other users who can use fire better such as sabo. Sanji feels cheap
Sanji's abilities work different. He is not simply burning the opponent, it is a side effect of his main ability to physically hit harder and faster, since Sanji is not simply imbuing his leg with fire but massively heating it up. There are abilities Sanji uses Sabo cannot use. Plus, Sanji's fighting style always was based on kicking. DJ and IJ are just enhanced versions.

It's like saying Luffy's Red Hawk and Red Roc are boring and useless because Sabo's fire > Luffy's fire. Doesn't really make sense, since Luffy's main fighting style is punching, and that fire just boosts his punches.

By this logic Big Mom's homies are useless too, since fire and lightning logias are above that. Luffy and Zoro by the way too have very simplistic fighting styles.
 
#49
Sanji's abilities work different. He is not simply burning the opponent, it is a side effect of his main ability to physically hit harder and faster, since Sanji is not simply imbuing his leg with fire but massively heating it up. There are abilities Sanji uses Sabo cannot use. Plus, Sanji's fighting style always was based on kicking. DJ and IJ are just enhanced versions.
Bro what is the difference with sanji kicking and sabo spreading his fire in his legs? In fact sabo can do it effortlessly without risking his bones being broken.

It's like saying Luffy's Red Hawk and Red Roc are boring and useless because Sabo's fire > Luffy's fire. Doesn't really make sense, since Luffy's main fighting style is punching, and that fire just boosts his punches.
Did oda give luffy that as his main fighting style? No. Oda is not stupid. Luffys main thing is the gum gum fruit.

By this logic Big Mom's homies are useless too, since fire and lightning logias are above that. Luffy and Zoro by the way too have very simplistic fighting styles.
Jesus dude really do i need to go over this
 
#50
Bro what is the difference with sanji kicking and sabo spreading his fire in his legs?
Because Sanji is not covering his legs with fire. He is massively heating up the leg itself, which greatly increases the attack potency and speed of his kicks.
Did oda give luffy that as his main fighting style? No. Oda is not stupid. Luffys main thing is the gum gum fruit.
You sound quite retarded to me, given you cannot even comprehend simple logic. The Gum Gum fruit is not a fighting style. It just gives Luffy the properties of rubber. His fighting style is mostly punching in addition to some kicking. With his Gears, he can boost the attack power and speed akin to Diable Jambe. Red Hawk and Red Roc are just the peak, as the heating up/fire allows Luffy to hit as hard as possible in these modes. But Luffy does not attack with fire itself; the burning is just a secondary effect. The primary effect is that Luffy can hit even faster and harder with his burning fist. Sabo cannot replicate that.

It's the same with Sanji or even better, since he developed an entire mode around his heat/fire based kicks.
 
#52
Because Sanji is not covering his legs with fire. He is massively heating up the leg itself, which greatly increases the attack potency and speed of his kicks.

You sound quite retarded to me, given you cannot even comprehend simple logic. The Gum Gum fruit is not a fighting style. It just gives Luffy the properties of rubber. His fighting style is mostly punching in addition to some kicking. With his Gears, he can boost the attack power and speed akin to Diable Jambe. Red Hawk and Red Roc are just the peak, as the heating up/fire allows Luffy to hit as hard as possible in these modes. But Luffy does not attack with fire itself; the burning is just a secondary effect. The primary effect is that Luffy can hit even faster and harder with his burning fist. Sabo cannot replicate that.

It's the same with Sanji or even better, since he developed an entire mode around his heat/fire based kicks.
Bro I am not blaming Sanji for kicking. I am saying most of his attributes are not aligned or do not fully support his fighting style.

For example sanjis use of legs only attribute him to gepo and maybe soru. Sanji heating his legs is boring and redundant because the main focus are not his legs but the heat that comes out of it a.e. the cheap version of mera mera.

Mera mera users can use the fire like sanji does to boost their legs more effecticely if they wanted to. In fact all logias can. Smoker does it all the time and gives himself more potency.

Rankyuaku users use legs better than sanji.

We are at a point in the story where sanji has to portray himself as some sort of island level fighter. Getting coc will not be enough. Sanji needs ovens devil fruit badly
 
#53
For example sanjis use of legs only attribute him to gepo and maybe soru. Sanji heating his legs is boring and redundant because the main focus are not his legs but the heat that comes out of it a.e. the cheap version of mera mera.
That would be true if all Sanji's fire did is setting the opponent on fire. But as we have learned, Sanji can
1) kick harder
2) kick faster
3) move faster
Him burning his opponent (both setting ablaze and burning them from the inside) is just an added effect. Again, it is just like Luffy's Red Hawk and Red Roc. Luffy burns his opponents (from the inside out) but this is just an added effect. The main point of Red Hawk and Red Roc is to hit harder. As far as I know, the Mera does not allow you to:
1) hit harder physically
2) hit faster
3) let the heat travel through the opponents body and burn the insides

The Mera is mainly spamming flames.

Diable Jambe is = Sanji's Gear 2. Just that Diable Jambe is the Red Hawk Mode here.
 
#54
That would be true if all Sanji's fire did is setting the opponent on fire. But as we have learned, Sanji can
1) kick harder
2) kick faster
3) move faster
Him burning his opponent (both setting ablaze and burning them from the inside) is just an added effect. Again, it is just like Luffy's Red Hawk and Red Roc. Luffy burns his opponents (from the inside out) but this is just an added effect. The main point of Red Hawk and Red Roc is to hit harder. As far as I know, the Mera does not allow you to:
1) hit harder physically
2) hit faster
3) let the heat travel through the opponents body and burn the insides

The Mera is mainly spamming flames.

Diable Jambe is = Sanji's Gear 2. Just that Diable Jambe is the Red Hawk Mode here.
Pretty sure ace could have done that and sabo can do it too. "Setting them ablaze and burning them from inside out" but drink the cool aid that sanji's fire is special idk what else to say
 
#58
It's the other way around; Mera mera no mi became a boring devil fruit the moment Sanji began to be able to create fire with his legs despite having a natural human body.

I would agree with you if you were referring to how after the time skip Sanji began to just spam Diable Jambe instead of using interesting acrobatics to fight like he did before. I believe that Oda lost some creativity in drawing Sanji fighting after the time skip.
But even with that considered, I think Sanji still has the most fighting style in the series.
Using only the legs to fight is intrinsically cool. Sky Walk was also a great addition, which made him look especially awesome in his last fight in Film Z.
And now I'm just hoping that Ifrit Jambe's color will be blue in the anime, and then it will be perfect.
 
#60
you'll n1gga's over analyzing characters fighting styles and how their powers work when ODA himself doesn't know himself. Oda don't care he just gives out powers and you are suppose to shut the fuck up and run with it. There is no logic behind it. You people over analyze everything that idiot does with the characters powers. He sucks at Battle Manga... Period.

Someone asks him seriously how certain characters powers work he gives stupid joke answers. Most of you dick riders are fucking idiots and need to see Oda for what he is. A trash Battle Manga author.
 
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