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scumsopp seems genuinely frustrated
nat has barely even defended anything
whats worse
she has barely hunted either .

quick iso on nat is just a push on usopp with little conviction
no reason provided either . seems like a gut feeling which is fine for d1.


how does salah wg play btw
I have to wait for more from Salah before I can say anything. He's usually a lot more game-solv-y. I would say he's trying, but I wonder why his first course of action was to lowkey defend Usopp.
 
I have to wait for more from Salah before I can say anything. He's usually a lot more game-solv-y. I would say he's trying, but I wonder why his first course of action was to lowkey defend Usopp.
without reading anything else presumably
thats why am asking alright

out of the two
nat looks worse than usopp to me. i want to see her defence
 

Light D Lamperouge

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@Lindltaylor

Fuji: As I said I lean Town on him. Simply because he noticed my play and how he generally acts. He doesn't seem to care too much about how he appears.

Light: Neutral to scum lean. He's way too cautious. Also his lack of contribution so far. Either he is busy or scum.

Lanji: I don't think he would come out claiming Miller after you already did as scum.
I am busy. I got work and for some inexplicable reason my class voted to move one of our lectures from Friday to Wednesday, which is something I wasn't aware of, and now I got an assignment that I need to finish by tonight. However, I have been contributing, cut the crap, at least as much as I could.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
on pg 22

whats important at this point in time
Jdb and usopp had a back and forth because usopp suggested he was indie hunting.
if jdb thinks usopp is townie

here on pg 16


I see no reason for him to tunnel at that point bar self defence. in other words, hes more concerned about redflags in his game than hunting out scum at this point in time.



something to note.
Fuji said he was changing his playstyle last game and got lynched day 1 lol. So now players are not jumping too much on him. So far, I have liked his gameplay. Also, I noticed while giving out my reads, that Fuji and Light have more or less addressed the same topics in the thread. They are either townies catching the same things... or maybe something else.

@LANJI CUCKSMOKE brought up a good point about JDB. @Jew D. Boy you have mainly interacted with Usopp this game. Anyone in particular that you would want to lynch?
I’m not sure exactly what LC’s getting at, but if the question is who I wanna lynch over Usopp, then Nat is really my main choice. Really didn’t like all the feigned ignorance over how Usopp knowing previous scum abilities might be important here, her explanation for the same wasn’t as convincing to me as she probably wanted, and I just get the feeling that she’s off her usual game this round...so yeah, for all the shit he and I went through for most of this phase, I’m not voting for Usopp.

Vote Lynch Nat @Dragomir @Zem
 

Light D Lamperouge

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Anyway, since we're moving slow now, either people are busy or Susopp is really scum and no one is tryna save him, bar maybe a slight defense by Salah, or scum are content with his lynch.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
5) JDB - I don't know what you mean by JDB has improved over the course of the day. His back and forth with you, was something I don't take as a town read. Him coming and suspecting Nat after what everyone else is also doing, isn't anything new. So how exactly are you town reading him on the reasons that you have given. No, that's because he mainly interacted with you.
ISO me if you want, but Nat’s been my biggest sus for most of the day even during the shit with Usopp.
 
Anyway, since we're moving slow now, either people are busy or Susopp is really scum and no one is tryna save him, bar maybe a slight defense by Salah, or scum are content with his lynch.
why would no one try to save scum
another coasting player not shy in placing votes is marimo
I’m not sure exactly what LC’s getting at, but if the question is who I wanna lynch over Usopp, then Nat is really my main choice. Really didn’t like all the feigned ignorance over how Usopp knowing previous scum abilities might be important here, her explanation for the same wasn’t as convincing to me as she probably wanted, and I just get the feeling that she’s off her usual game this round...so yeah, for all the shit he and I went through for most of this phase, I’m not voting for Usopp.

Vote Lynch Nat @Dragomir @Zem
its means you spent more time arguing with someone you thought was townie for placing a redflag
than you did hunting
in other words, its cautious gameplay.
 
I am busy. I got work and for some inexplicable reason my class voted to move one of our lectures from Friday to Wednesday, which is something I wasn't aware of, and now I got an assignment that I need to finish by tonight. However, I have been contributing, cut the crap, at least as much as I could.
“Either he is busy or he is scum“ :pepeke:.
 
I like Lanji so far. I can get most of his points and I like how he‘s trying to solve the game. I wouldn‘t put a lock on that read, though. There is a slim chance that he‘s powerwolfing.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
why would no one try to save scum
another coasting player not shy in placing votes is marimo

its means you spent more time arguing with someone you thought was townie for placing a redflag
than you did hunting
in other words, its cautious gameplay.
Who did I vote for, though? I wish I loved anything as much as y’all love to pretend like every single thing said on D1 is indicative of some greater strategy and can be scrutinized to the nth degree. Usopp’s shit was the most substantial thing to happen; you were on it, I was on it, every active player chimed in for most of the day. You guys wanna act like talking to and about the biggest collective sus is somehow scummy itself, and this is why town always loses - we get galaxy brained and paranoid straight from the jump. I get Usopp’s frustration, it’s complete bullshit for everyone to act like an expert game solver when we have zero tangible evidence on anything.
 
Sera needs to catch up.

Larry is flip flopping votes.

Tris seems relatively neutral so far.

Typo...could actually be Town, but he‘s acting a tad scummy.

Lind...I like how he came forward with his claim, but I find it weird why he asked for other Millers...that‘s not something I would instantly assume as a Miller.

Salah I need to hear more from.
 
Who did I vote for, though? I wish I loved anything as much as y’all love to pretend like every single thing said on D1 is indicative of some greater strategy and can be scrutinized to the nth degree. Usopp’s shit was the most substantial thing to happen; you were on it, I was on it, every active player chimed in for most of the day. You guys wanna act like talking to and about the biggest collective sus is somehow scummy itself, and this is why town always loses - we get galaxy brained and paranoid straight from the jump. I get Usopp’s frustration, it’s complete bullshit for everyone to act like an expert game solver when we have zero tangible evidence on anything.
"You guys wanna act like talking to and about the biggest collective sus is somehow scummy itself"
no cause I did the same. that would be hypocritical.


the main reason for interacting with usopp was due to the redflag he put on you .
you confirmed it here .
Oh no, my friend, I’m not moving on until I’m satisfied with your answers. I never said I was hard indie hunting (other than within the context of addressing your accusations), but you’ve been tunneling me since the jump because I made the mistake of joking around with you, and you’ve decided you’re gonna hound me all game for it. Who decided your townie credentials were unassailable?? Here’s what I’ve seen from you so far - digging as wide a tunnel as possible on me; gushing over how scum can clean up their kills while giving unbelievably specific details you seem to have conjured out of thin air; ducking everybody’s questions about how you came to any of these conclusions; asking for town reads when I gave you some already. Tell me, man, WHAT have you done that’s actually been productive?? Why do you think the burden of proof belongs on me when you have earned it every bit as much??
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Christ, Usopp, I thought it was a given that we’re all looking for scum, so it makes sense to *also* consider the possibility that another force out there could come after town. Me saying all this doesn’t constitute indie hunting so much as it implies I’m playing the damn game just like anyone else.

your interaction with usopp was strictly to defend yourself
and I simply noted that. nothing more.
 
Sera needs to catch up.

Larry is flip flopping votes.

Tris seems relatively neutral so far.

Typo...could actually be Town, but he‘s acting a tad scummy.

Lind...I like how he came forward with his claim, but I find it weird why he asked for other Millers...that‘s not something I would instantly assume as a Miller.

Salah I need to hear more from.
marimo flipping votes without saying much.
typo, tris null for now
lind dont know about two town millers but not out of the realm of possibility. he is playing like a townie tho
 

Light D Lamperouge

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Also, if we are going with a lynch, we should make a bigger gap between wagons. I don't want any voting shenanigans that could result in a no lynch or something like that.

why would no one try to save scum
A good scum knows when to buss their mate. Susopp was like the main sus all phase, trying to save him from no where is basically a death penalty for scum. They wouldn't wanna associate with him at all, maybe a slight attempt here and there.

another coasting player not shy in placing votes is marimo
He's flip flopping with votes. Scum Larimo is usually much more shy and likes to stay away from the attention and under the radar, which isn't what flip flopping is.
 

Jew D. Boy

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"You guys wanna act like talking to and about the biggest collective sus is somehow scummy itself"
no cause I did the same. that would be hypocritical.


the main reason for interacting with usopp was due to the redflag he put on you .
you confirmed it here .



your interaction with usopp was strictly to defend yourself
and I simply noted that. nothing more.
Aight, cool, so people defending themselves is bad, got it. From now on, LC, when people start coming after you right away and challenging the most benign shit you say, I’ll immediately vote for YOU if you speak up in your own defense. It’s this kind of “logic” that has propelled town to so many guaranteed losses in the past, so if it ain’t working, don’t fix it.
 
Also, if we are going with a lynch, we should make a bigger gap between wagons. I don't want any voting shenanigans that could result in a no lynch or something like that.


A good scum knows when to buss their mate. Susopp was like the main sus all phase, trying to save him from no where is basically a death penalty for scum. They wouldn't wanna associate with him at all, maybe a slight attempt here and there.


He's flip flopping with votes. Scum Larimo is usually much more shy and likes to stay away from the attention and under the radar, which isn't what flip flopping is.
he is staying under the radar
2 of his three votes went unexplained
and the 3rd one was the popular vote at the time .


to the other point , could go either way
they will try and push someone else rather than outwardly defend usopp.

but again d1 for me and going for players who I think would be helpful
not exactly what I want to do .
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
I’m not sure exactly what LC’s getting at, but if the question is who I wanna lynch over Usopp, then Nat is really my main choice. Really didn’t like all the feigned ignorance over how Usopp knowing previous scum abilities might be important here, her explanation for the same wasn’t as convincing to me as she probably wanted, and I just get the feeling that she’s off her usual game this round...so yeah, for all the shit he and I went through for most of this phase, I’m not voting for Usopp.

Vote Lynch Nat @Dragomir @Zem
So you don't suspect Usopp, right? I recall you saying you lean town on him in one of your posts. I mean Nat is acting really scummy here. But, I don't like how Usopp tried to deflect the suspicion off him by town reading Flower, you and Fuji.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
So you don't suspect Usopp, right? I recall you saying you lean town on him in one of your posts. I mean Nat is acting really scummy here. But, I don't like how Usopp tried to deflect the suspicion off him by town reading Flower, you and Fuji.
I don’t like how Usopp plays in general, and especially in this game, but I think he’s played like what he usually does as a townie...it IS possible to disagree with someone all day long and still think their heart’s in the right place, so I don’t want any shocked reactions to what I’m saying. I don’t know why he decided to town read me all of a sudden, because he clearly wasn’t for most of our discussions, but I still feel Nat’s been more erratic (and for more vague reasons) than he has.
 
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