General & Others Shanks and Mihawk

[Ask D question]

It was literally stated that shanks and mihawk were equals, I don't get what's the fuss about, he obviously never went all out against Vista

 

[Tai long]

Because Mihawk is stronger

if mihawk is stronger, then shanks should be getting his hype from mihawk, not the other way around

 

[Roronoa-sama]

mihawk=>shanks with two arms>>>>>>shanks=>kaido
@Swallalala

 

[spawn]

Great false equivalence

Vivre Cards are overseen by Oda and the stuff in them are things he told his editors and wrote himself, furthermore, he's literally listed as the author of them

Compare that to a magazine which was written by some random person who is as credible as you or me and has no input from Oda whatsoever.

The Vivre Cards only have positive things to say about Mihawk. Which, by the way, are different from the Databooks (which also differ from one another).
Do you think Oda is going through each page of Databook Deep Blue making sure events (from the manga) are re-explained the way he wants it? Lol.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

No one is slandering Wanji without getting punished

You means sanjina. She is waiting zoro baby

 

[SkySanji]

The Vivre Cards only have positive things to say about Mihawk. Which, by the way, are different from the Databooks (which also differ from one another).
Do you think Oda is going through each page of Databook Deep Blue making sure events (from the manga) are re-explained the way he wants it? Lol.

What's your point? I don't give a fuck what the VC's say about Mihawk

And I don't care about the old databooks either, I'm strictly talking about the VC's.

 

[God Ward]

Whole lotta cope in this thread from Mihawk haters

 

[Steven]

The Vivre Cards only have positive things to say about Mihawk. Which, by the way, are different from the Databooks (which also differ from one another).
Do you think Oda is going through each page of Databook Deep Blue making sure events (from the manga) are re-explained the way he wants it? Lol.

We know that Vista~Mihawk thanks to the databook

No non-canon source can change that.Odas own words

 

[spawn]

if mihawk is stronger, then shanks should be getting his hype from mihawk, not the other way around

Shanks, for about 430 chapters, got his hype from Mihawk. We knew Shanks was strong because he had duels with Mihawk (who we knew was strong).
It’s once we saw him clash against Whitebeard that we saw his strength on-panel.

If we’re talking about in-verse, who gets his fame from the other? It’s Shanks who gets his fame from Mihawk again.
Mihawk gets brought up by characters when interacting with Shanks. (Whitebeard mentions Mihawk, Ace in his novel mentions Mihawk). Even Shanks mentions Mihawk himself when talking about who gave him the eye scar. When talking about Mihawk, Shanks isn’t brought up as justification of his strength, we know he’s strong because he’s the world’s strongest.

It’s always
‘Shanks, the guy who used to fight with Mihawk, is an emperor’
Never
‘Mihawk, the guy who used to fight with Shanks, is the world’s strongest swordsman’.
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What's your point? I don't give a fuck what the VC's say about Mihawk

And I don't care about the old databooks either, I'm strictly talking about the VC's.

You are relying to a post lumping up Vivre Cards and databooks as one. I am explaining that they aren’t, and that even among databooks, there are pretty big differences.
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We know that Vista~Mihawk thanks to the databook

No non-canon source can change that.Odas own words

It’s like everything I just said went above your head lol

 

[SkySanji]

You are relying to a post lumping up Vivre Cards and databooks as one. I am explaining that they aren’t, and that even among databooks, there are pretty big differences.

No, I'm replying to a post trying to equate the Vivre Cards to a random magazine

Regardless, why quote me with your post when I never said they're the same?

 

[The White Crane]

But I thought Mihawk is above Yonko level?

@nik87 @Roronoa-sama @Money D Malio @wys @L55 @The White Crane @HA001 @L55

Always has been.

 

[kumae]

First zoro second stronger then zoro`s new outfit from the movie and now mihawk hype

 

[The White Crane]

It was literally stated that shanks and mihawk were equals, I don't get what's the fuss about, he obviously never went all out against Vista

Come on, surely you knew Mihawk being YC-level is a popular belief since MF happened? And there are people who actually believe Mihawk cannot be on the level of the Admirals or the Yonkos because that means EoS Zoro is closer to EoS Luffy than he is to EoS Cook.

I'm just saying that this is a relevant fuss, that's all.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Wonder what the cope will be when Mihawk turns out to be top tier and wasn't the "Vista level" they were lead to believe.

 

[Kingslayer]

Are you guys going to drop one piece once mihawk goes all out or just go into hiding

 

[spawn]

No, I'm replying to a post trying to equate the Vivre Cards to a random magazine

Regardless, why quote me with your post when I never said they're the same?

The post isn’t bringing up just Vivre Cards, it says ‘vivre cards/databooks’. If they said just databooks (which is the controversial source in the arguments), then there is no false equivalence. The shit sources people use to discredit Mihawk/Shanks are equivalently as shit as the Magazines.

Hope this helps.

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

Wonder what the cope will be when Mihawk turns out to be top tier and wasn't the "Vista level" they were lead to believe.

When every argument fails, here comes the wings argument and saves the day

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

When every argument fails, here comes the wings argument and saves the day

Reminds me of "but shared panels with Queen" to argue that King is totally not the Katakuri or the Beast Pirates (or worse, they're both the Katakuris).

 

[OEKaneki]

Lol Mihawk/Zoro fanboys will never stop trying this nonsense. Never gets any less desperate

 

[Ask D question]

Come on, surely you knew Mihawk being YC-level is a popular belief since MF happened? And there are people who actually believe Mihawk cannot be on the level of the Admirals or the Yonkos because that means EoS Zoro is closer to EoS Luffy than he is to EoS Cook.

I'm just saying that this is a relevant fuss, that's all.

I always thought it was people trolling lol

Mihawk on his introduction stated that he never goes all out against weaker opponents, so it was pretty obvious that he never used his full strength against Vista