General & Others Saint Shanks and Mihawk
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And yet Whitebeard references his duels with Mihawk when talking to Saint Shanks. Ace does the same thing in the Novels as well. Saint Shanks does the same thing as well when talking about his scar.
But there isnt single character who ever referenced Mihawk as the person who used to duel with Yonkou Saint Shanks.
But there isnt single character who ever referenced Mihawk as the person who used to duel with Yonkou Saint Shanks.
Mihawk and Saint Shanks are equals, as both some of the strongest Top Tiers.
https://i.ibb.co/N994nF9/Saint Shanks-mihawk-rivals.png
Saint Shanks is a Yonko, plus the protagonist's mentor and someone who is reserved for end game. Mihawk may arguably a bit stronger than Saint Shanks, due to WSS title, with Saint Shanks also being a swordsman. Mihawk is the goal for the second most loved character in the fandom to reach and surpass.
So both Saint Shanks and Mihawk have the same role as benchmarks for Luffy and Zoro to reach and surpass them as Great Pirate (Luffy) and The World's Strongest Swordsman (Zoro). That alone also puts Saint Shanks and Mihawk on similar levels, no matter what.
https://i.ibb.co/t47yKNX/luffy-zoro-Saint Shanks-mihawk-benchmarks.png
Saint Shanks vs Mihawk duels are "legendary" in Whitebeard's eyes. For Whitebeard to remember in that regard about the fights between Young Saint Shanks and Young Mihawk, it means that they must have been outrageously strong. And that was many years ago, so obviously now they are even much stronger.
https://i.ibb.co/JRbbRxH/Saint Shanks-mihawk-legendary-fight.png
Mihawk being the WSS with Saint Shanks being a swordsman, seems to put Mihawk even above Saint Shanks.
Let's not forget that Mihawk was presented again as WSS in Post Time Skip in both the manga and the databooks, so that means that if he is stronger than Saint Shanks, then it's Current Yonko Saint Shanks that we are talking about.
The terrible argument "Mihawk didn't fight anyone who is noteworthily strong" dies, because Saint Shanks also didn't fight anyone who is noteworthily strong from a lot of time. By Whitebeard's comment, the last great fight for Saint Shanks was... the latest fight against Mihawk.
Mihawk is indeed stated to waiting for an opponent even greater than Saint Shanks to come and challenge him as the WSS.
Guess who that one will be...
https://i.ibb.co/n6Bg3nb/Saint Shanks-mihawk.png
Oda's comment on this was "A gathering of swordsmen! Get cut and it'll hurt!".
All the characters in the picture are swordsmen, by Oda's word. Roger, Rayleigh, Cavendish, Law, Oden, Zoro, Saint Shanks, Mihawk, Shiryu, Hatchan, Kaku, Vista; all of them are swordsmen. It's not my opinion or theory (and I am actually surprised of some of them). It's Oda's.
OPS... I can hear the rustled jimmies.
The delusional haters, the ones "Mihawk is Vista level" "Mihawk is strong but not above YC1 level" ones, should have disappeared after chapters 1035-1036. Because from there we know as a fact that Adv CoC Zoro, meaning Current Zoro, proved to be much stronger than YC1 King. Therefore if Mihawk was YC1 level, or even worse Vista-level, then Zoro would be already much stronger than him, and their future fight would be an onesided stomp. Do someone really think that it's how Oda will have Zoro vs Mihawk to be?
After gaining Advanced Conqueror Haki, Zoro defeated King in three hits (one of them a nameless attack and another a basic Ittoryu attack), without needing to go all out with Ashura (a Santoryu finisher was more than enough), and whatever King tried to do was either dodged, parried, blocked, tanked or overwhelmed. King ended the fight defeated, with his body mutilated and his weapon broken.
King is as more or less as strong as Marco; if one of them is stronger, is by a little bit, they are peers and counterparts as YC1s, the Right Hand Men of their respective Yonko, Kaido and Whitebeard.
Marco is clearly showed and portrayed as much stronger than Vista. Meaning that obviously:
Vista <<< Marco ~ King << Zoro << Mihawk ~ Saint Shanks
To argue against this, then you have to suggest that Zoro is already as strong as Mihawk and Saint Shanks, or even stronger.
I don't think so.
Also. Zoro was portrayed as a King. Meaning that Mihawk, which is Zoro's goal, is the Kings of the Swordsmen. If Zoro is a Conqueror with Advanced Haoshoku Haki, and Mihawk's rival Saint Shanks is as well, you can literally bet your house on Mihawk having the same powers too. It's like it's guaranteed at this point. Zoro, Saint Shanks and Mihawk have to be all similar in strength, that could not be if Zoro and Saint Shanks have Advanced Conqueror while Mihawk doesn't. Obviously he is. He is the King of the Swordsmen, and Zoro will someday reach and surpass him.
And if all of that wasn't enough...
Now an official source (One Piece Magazine) went to kill everything for real. The Saint Shanks-Mihawk relationship is textually stated to be a rivalry relationship between equals, the way the Roger-Whitebeard was. So as complete equals and peers (or 99.9% peers) in strength. Also they being the benchmarks for Luffy and Zoro to reach and surpass is officially canon.
https://i.ibb.co/N994nF9/Saint Shanks-mihawk-rivals.png
Saint Shanks is a Yonko, plus the protagonist's mentor and someone who is reserved for end game. Mihawk may arguably a bit stronger than Saint Shanks, due to WSS title, with Saint Shanks also being a swordsman. Mihawk is the goal for the second most loved character in the fandom to reach and surpass.
So both Saint Shanks and Mihawk have the same role as benchmarks for Luffy and Zoro to reach and surpass them as Great Pirate (Luffy) and The World's Strongest Swordsman (Zoro). That alone also puts Saint Shanks and Mihawk on similar levels, no matter what.
https://i.ibb.co/t47yKNX/luffy-zoro-Saint Shanks-mihawk-benchmarks.png
Saint Shanks vs Mihawk duels are "legendary" in Whitebeard's eyes. For Whitebeard to remember in that regard about the fights between Young Saint Shanks and Young Mihawk, it means that they must have been outrageously strong. And that was many years ago, so obviously now they are even much stronger.
https://i.ibb.co/JRbbRxH/Saint Shanks-mihawk-legendary-fight.png
Mihawk being the WSS with Saint Shanks being a swordsman, seems to put Mihawk even above Saint Shanks.
Let's not forget that Mihawk was presented again as WSS in Post Time Skip in both the manga and the databooks, so that means that if he is stronger than Saint Shanks, then it's Current Yonko Saint Shanks that we are talking about.
The terrible argument "Mihawk didn't fight anyone who is noteworthily strong" dies, because Saint Shanks also didn't fight anyone who is noteworthily strong from a lot of time. By Whitebeard's comment, the last great fight for Saint Shanks was... the latest fight against Mihawk.
Mihawk is indeed stated to waiting for an opponent even greater than Saint Shanks to come and challenge him as the WSS.
Guess who that one will be...
https://i.ibb.co/n6Bg3nb/Saint Shanks-mihawk.png
Oda's comment on this was "A gathering of swordsmen! Get cut and it'll hurt!".
All the characters in the picture are swordsmen, by Oda's word. Roger, Rayleigh, Cavendish, Law, Oden, Zoro, Saint Shanks, Mihawk, Shiryu, Hatchan, Kaku, Vista; all of them are swordsmen. It's not my opinion or theory (and I am actually surprised of some of them). It's Oda's.
OPS... I can hear the rustled jimmies.
The delusional haters, the ones "Mihawk is Vista level" "Mihawk is strong but not above YC1 level" ones, should have disappeared after chapters 1035-1036. Because from there we know as a fact that Adv CoC Zoro, meaning Current Zoro, proved to be much stronger than YC1 King. Therefore if Mihawk was YC1 level, or even worse Vista-level, then Zoro would be already much stronger than him, and their future fight would be an onesided stomp. Do someone really think that it's how Oda will have Zoro vs Mihawk to be?
After gaining Advanced Conqueror Haki, Zoro defeated King in three hits (one of them a nameless attack and another a basic Ittoryu attack), without needing to go all out with Ashura (a Santoryu finisher was more than enough), and whatever King tried to do was either dodged, parried, blocked, tanked or overwhelmed. King ended the fight defeated, with his body mutilated and his weapon broken.
King is as more or less as strong as Marco; if one of them is stronger, is by a little bit, they are peers and counterparts as YC1s, the Right Hand Men of their respective Yonko, Kaido and Whitebeard.
Marco is clearly showed and portrayed as much stronger than Vista. Meaning that obviously:
Vista <<< Marco ~ King << Zoro << Mihawk ~ Saint Shanks
To argue against this, then you have to suggest that Zoro is already as strong as Mihawk and Saint Shanks, or even stronger.
I don't think so.
Also. Zoro was portrayed as a King. Meaning that Mihawk, which is Zoro's goal, is the Kings of the Swordsmen. If Zoro is a Conqueror with Advanced Haoshoku Haki, and Mihawk's rival Saint Shanks is as well, you can literally bet your house on Mihawk having the same powers too. It's like it's guaranteed at this point. Zoro, Saint Shanks and Mihawk have to be all similar in strength, that could not be if Zoro and Saint Shanks have Advanced Conqueror while Mihawk doesn't. Obviously he is. He is the King of the Swordsmen, and Zoro will someday reach and surpass him.
And if all of that wasn't enough...
Now an official source (One Piece Magazine) went to kill everything for real. The Saint Shanks-Mihawk relationship is textually stated to be a rivalry relationship between equals, the way the Roger-Whitebeard was. So as complete equals and peers (or 99.9% peers) in strength. Also they being the benchmarks for Luffy and Zoro to reach and surpass is officially canon.