Powers & Abilities Shanks Gryphon.

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#21
That way even Aokiji whips out a Ice saber , doesn't make him a swordsman.
Using sword as one of your options in your arsenal vs Using sword for everything, Zoro , Oden , Roger , Mihawk falls in this category.

Bigmeme uses a sword a too , but I can barely call her a swordsman. Even when she has Elbaf Swordsmanship type.
If they use a sword, they are a swordsman. It is that simple.
Using other abilities prevents nobody from being a swordsman.
 
#24
Well when we are talking about sword specifically of swordsman.
Zoro , Wado is still same
Mihawk , Yoru is still same
Wado ichimonji is recurrent Oda couldn’t change his design from one chapter to another point blank, while Yoru is arguably one of the most unique swords of all Manga not just One Piece, making it impossible to have sudden changes in design

On the other Gryphon has a fairly normal design and Oda first drew Shanks again with his sword only after 234 chapters
 
#25
i wouldn't look into small design chances like that. Like you could be onto something, but at the same time Oda is not known for his consistency. He constantly messes zoros swords and he's the third most drawn character
 
#29
Roger never uses a gun against WB or during god valley. The gun was drawn way back in chapter zero where oda most likely haven't figured out his fighting style. Roger and shanks are swordsmen.
Ok but we literally only got 1 panel of Roger vs WB so you can’t determine his entire fighting style based on that
 
#31
We got that and even in god valley he charged with sword. He used Kamusari a sword technique. He is a swordsman until further notice.
We didn’t even see him actually fight in GV yet lol, just charge in. There isn’t substantial enough evidence that Oda just decided to retcon Roger’s gun out of existence
 
#32
We didn’t even see him actually fight in GV yet lol, just charge in. There isn’t substantial enough evidence that Oda just decided to retcon Roger’s gun out of existence
I mean both events are drawn much recently in manga lmfao. And neither times he hold a gun. You coping with what oda drew 15 years ago.
 
#33
I mean both events are drawn much recently in manga lmfao. And neither times he hold a gun. You coping with what oda drew 15 years ago.
Bro let us see Roger have an actual on-screen fight before making a claim as bold as Oda retconning his gun out of existence. You’re jumping to conclusions
 
#36
He does.

Roger was haki man too, he was Master of CoC, the Shanks of previous era.

Anyway,

Kaido put Roger in his Top 5, I think Roger wifi diffed Kaido too during God Valley incident.
And history repeated itself before the Marineford War.
Kid Kaido probably endured Kamusari and was two shotted.

Prime Kaido was seen as superior pirate post shanks skirmish.
 
#37
I am not. It's pretty clear to me. You coping as you don't want shanks to be swordsman lol. You do you.
You’re literally saying that Oda is retconning the story despite having 0 actual evidence beyond wishful thinking lol. You really think Oda put no thought into how the fucking PK fights when he drew chapter 0?
 
#38
You’re literally saying that Oda is retconning the story despite having 0 actual evidence beyond wishful thinking lol. You really think Oda put no thought into how the fucking PK fights when he drew chapter 0?
There are lot's of cases of retcons in OP. Croc , Haki etc.

You are using a panel which oda drew 15 years ago. Not once in recent times oda has drawn Roger using a gun lol.
 
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