Powers & Abilities Shanks vs Mihawk took interesting turn

#22
Yea exactly. The former is what I meant originally, the latter is a possibility I came up with since you didn't think the idea of unnerving a fellow top tier was realistic.

I think that'd be a reasonable application of CoC. I'm not confident Oda cares enough to think this through though.
That'd be dope for sure, since every top tier that we've seen go all out seems to have a gimmick that make em top tier. Kaido & BM with their innate durability from their tough skins. Having Shanks' skillset based on disrupting others' CoO FoV would be neat, but the thing is would be it something special to Shanks or would it be something that anybody at a certain CoC level would be able to achieve?
 
#23
Yea exactly. The former is what I meant originally, the latter is a possibility I came up with since you didn't think the idea of unnerving a fellow top tier was realistic.

I think that'd be a reasonable application of CoC. I'm not confident Oda cares enough to think this through though.




Kizaru has a chance to be a post Mihawk fight for Zoro, or maybe post Shiryu after Zoro improves his CoO? So who knows really. Nothing odd about Kizaru being that strong, he shouldn't be much weaker than Akainu.
Zorros not fighting kizaru
 
#24
So, we got to see in the movie that Shanks in fact could use ACOC back in the days when he used to clash with Mihawk n the volume book says he's an observation haki killer.

And Mihawk's epithet is "Clairvoyant"
clairvoyant-
a person who claims to have a supernatural ability to perceive events in the future or beyond normal sensory contact.

Which means Mihawk was and is the only one in the existence in the current verse who can use future sight in front of Shanks :O

Their duels truly used to be extraordinary
Dude, you're misinterpreting the volume book. Oda wanted to make Clairvoyant as Mihawk's epithet before he decided to scrap the idea. It wasn't and isn't his epithet. This whole thread is invalid.
 
#25
He's probably right tbf. Shanks simply being so fast that he speedblitzes is more in tune with how Oda does things. Hopefully not though.
Exactly as you said.
It could means Shanks has even top tier reaction, speed, Coo when his opponent's Coo did not effective against Shanks, that is the meaning of Coo Killer not magically can not use Coo..
Well my viewpoint of why it can't be effective against a focused top tier (key is that the other top tier focused), is because the only way CoC would be able to muddy somebody's observation haki is by making them uncalm or unnerving them. Since the base of all COO is remaining calm for your senses (well that's also the base of battle senses/instincts in general).
I believe he's been using both his CoC and CoO to counter/kill FS of his opponents.


Though that breath thing is a bit confusing but if it's intimidating, than it's definitely through CoC like we've seen it against Greenbull. Later this not letting his opponent use FS but he could very not only see but hear things as well.

Like @Den_Den_Mushi said, it's really huge for Mihawk to still have duels on equal footing with Shanks even under such circumstances. It should be that after being dueling with another on multiple occasions, they both created there trump cards to counter each other. There would definitely be something about Mihawk which could put pressure on Shanks as well.
 
#27
From the looks of it, none of Shanks' abilities here are getting him off the hook of being a swordsman. A burning sword, and a way to counter FS/CoO. Also, confirmation that Shanks had ACoC before he lost his arm, which implies: 1) Shanks was a very high level fighter even back then, and 2) Mihawk likely has it too.

Of course, there's always the possibility that Shanks has several other powers/abilities that weren't revealed in this film. But I'm not seeing any haki Susanoo, haki kamehameha's, haki-formed arms, or martial arts like I was told. At the very least, this film isn't giving those people much to work with.
 
#28
That'd be dope for sure, since every top tier that we've seen go all out seems to have a gimmick that make em top tier. Kaido & BM with their innate durability from their tough skins. Having Shanks' skillset based on disrupting others' CoO FoV would be neat, but the thing is would be it something special to Shanks or would it be something that anybody at a certain CoC level would be able to achieve?
It is a CoC Specialist exclsuive ability. Oda made Luffy, Shanks And Roger CoC Sepecialists for a reason.
 
#30
Kizaru actually got blitzed by Shanks in this movie from their brief exchange. It's on YouTube.



Zoro fans take note. This is what a speed blitz really looks like. Not that Asura crap. :gokulaugh:
You're right. Kizaru in there injured Shanks heavily with one Yasakani and pretended to be afraid after Shanks pointed Gryphon at him. Kizaru must indeed have been blitzed despite not even getting scratched. :emohiyo:

Btw, Crydo was unable to react to Asura at all (unlike Kizaru to Shanks' attack), so, yeah, Asura was beyond speed blitzing. :hihihi:
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Zorros not fighting kizaru
He is, actually.
 

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#32
From the looks of it, none of Shanks' abilities here are getting him off the hook of being a swordsman. A burning sword, and a way to counter FS/CoO. Also, confirmation that Shanks had ACoC before he lost his arm, which implies: 1) Shanks was a very high level fighter even back then, and 2) Mihawk likely has it too.

Of course, there's always the possibility that Shanks has several other powers/abilities that weren't revealed in this film. But I'm not seeing any haki Susanoo, haki kamehameha's, haki-formed arms, or martial arts like I was told. At the very least, this film isn't giving those people much to work with.
This.

Also do we know for sure that the "flames" on Gryphon is actual fire and not overflowing CoA like how Zoro uses his three swords in King of Hell?
 
#33
You're right. Kizaru in there injured Shanks heavily with one Yasakani and pretended to be afraid after Shanks pointed Gryphon at him. Kizaru must indeed have been blitzed despite not even getting scratched. :emohiyo:

Btw, Crydo was unable to react to Asura at all (unlike Kizaru to Shanks' attack), so, yeah, Asura was beyond speed blitzing. :hihihi:
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He is, actually.
Shanks wasn't injured by Kizaru, he was injured because he let the civilizians beat him up.
Also before you point out that it makes Shanks look bad, don't forget that even Garp was bleeding after Luffy and Dadan punched him.
Not everyone is Kaido/Big Mom levels of durability if they don't defend themselves with haki.
 
#34
Mihawk haters " shanks wasnt as strong back then" became "Shanks was YC back then" then "he had only 1B back then" and later "but his aCoC got better after 12 years".

Just admit that Mihawk is pretty much equal if not a little bit stronger than him its not a bad thing really.
 
#35
Shanks wasn't injured by Kizaru, he was injured because he let the civilizians beat him up.
Also before you point out that it makes Shanks look bad, don't forget that even Garp was bleeding after Luffy and Dadan punched him.
Not everyone is Kaido/Big Mom levels of durability if they don't defend themselves with haki.
Even normal civilians could beat Shanks up? No wonder he lost bigly to @Lor D. Coast. :milaugh:

Good thing Papalino went easy on him and unleashed Yasakani only once. :suresure:
 
#36
So, we got to see in the movie that Shanks in fact could use ACOC back in the days when he used to clash with Mihawk n the volume book says he's an observation haki killer.

And Mihawk's epithet is "Clairvoyant"
clairvoyant-
a person who claims to have a supernatural ability to perceive events in the future or beyond normal sensory contact.

Which means Mihawk was and is the only one in the existence in the current verse who can use future sight in front of Shanks :O

Their duels truly used to be extraordinary
Lol, no.



Then it means Base BB is as strong as current Shanks. :kaidowhat:

Shanks wasn't even Yonko 12 years ago when he had 1 billion bounty.
 
#40
Shanks is stronger than mihawk imo but it’s a lot more close than people are giving it credit for. As of right now based off of what we know it’s objectively hard for me to place mihawk above shanks cuz that would be insane dickriding ngl but we gotta tone it down on the mihawk slander lol this mf is NO JOKE😭. One of the first adversaries shown in the series and he’s going to be there in the end as well. Mihawk just has a more laid back personality unlike shanks that’s why he’s not seen as a threat to some. But he has that title of world strongest swordsman for a reason man can’t just ignore that.
 
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