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[Paperchampion23]

Ace was put on execution because he was son of Roger


Akainu was hell bent on killing Luffy because he is son of Dragon


And, shanks fan somehow thinks that navy in that same arc stopped war because of mere yonkou status of Shanks (status which hold no meaning as navy fought war against a yonkou) and not because of his CD status

I cant be the only Shanks fan who actually understands this basic ass logic. Shanks was basically more Roger's son than Ace lmao, and not one WG person considered him a threat by stepping into Mariejois? Theres clearly more going on between him and the WG than we know.

 

[comrade]

No im saying we dont know shit so why assume his obvious bloodline connection is not taken into account?

So if you agree we don't know shit, why are you making assumptions? Yes, Shanks' bloodline surely is taken into account, but also the fact that he is massively powerful - both individually and politically - and is reasonable on top of it.

Do you think they would've let Kaido in the room if he was a Figarland, he who is a merciless brute who wants to destroy the world? Obviously not.

Why the Gorosei were reluctant to kill Uta?

I haven't watched the film. But still I don't know why you are making the assumption it's just because she is a Figarland and not because they wouldn't want to fuck with Shanks, who was said to be unstoppable or at least cause a ton of damage if he went against the WG.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yes, Shanks' bloodline surely is taken into account,

Okay stop talking then. If you understand this, then why argue in the first place? The other Yonko do not have this trait, peaceful or not, powerful or not.

 

[comrade]

Okay stop talking then. If you understand this, then why argue in the first place? The other Yonko do not have this trait, peaceful or not, powerful or not.

Because your arguments are bullshit, starting off with saying "The Figarlands" are allowed to execute other CDs when it really is just the supreme commander of the Holy Knights and we know that CDs, even those belonging to the inner circle like the Donquixotes are executed for deviating from the doctrine of the WG even for a bit and Garling executing other CDs having little, if anything to do with him being a Figarland but him being the supreme leader of the Holy Knights who is absolutely loyal to the WG.

Shanks heritage is totally overestimated in regards to his supposed priviledges.

 

[Dragon777]

Do you think Wb would have allowed Kaido and Big Mom to enter his ship?
The obvious answer is that they are wild...Couldn't Roger come to Marineford to stop this war?
The Five Elders were worried when Shanks moved...Why should they be afraid of their ally?
Why did Shanks steal Nika from all the fruits?
They aren't stupid, they know Shanks is a traitor and if Shanks is their ally, how many people do you think know about this?

Obviusly Shanks is their enemy. They Just treat him differenty from his peers, who couldn't even call the Gorosei, let alone showing in person.

 

[Toryu]

So if you agree we don't know shit, why are you making assumptions? Yes, Shanks' bloodline surely is taken into account, but also the fact that he is massively powerful - both individually and politically - and is reasonable on top of it.

Do you think they would've let Kaido in the room if he was a Figarland, he who is a merciless brute who wants to destroy the world? Obviously not.

I haven't watched the film. But still I don't know why you are making the assumption it's just because she is a Figarland and not because they wouldn't want to fuck with Shanks, who was said to be unstoppable or at least cause a ton of damage if he went against the WG.

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Posting images on mobile is a pain in the ass, this is the best I can give you.

They wanted her dead specifically because she was Shanks daughter, to kill her before she becomes a threat, mind you they were ready to take his wrath for killing her.

Their reluctance comes form the bloodline Figarland.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Because your arguments are bullshit, starting off with saying "The Figarlands" are allowed to execute other CDs when it really is just the supreme commander of the Holy Knights and we know that CDs, even those belonging to the inner circle like the Donquixotes are executed for deviating from the doctrine of the WG even for a bit and Garling executing other CDs having little, if anything to do with him being a Figarland but him being the supreme leader of the Holy Knights who is absolutely loyal to the WG.

Shanks heritage is totally overestimated in regards to his supposed priviledges.

No, its not "overestimated". Its all we have to go on. Theres nothing in the story that says Shanks' "overwhelming power" or "peaceful nature" is why Sengoku and Gorosei made exceptions for him.

And yet the former king of God Valley is also the Supreme Commander of the God Knights. That person also shares a family name with Shanks, who was found on God Valley. So forgive me if me actually reading the canon story and noticing the obvious connection isnt something you agree with.

 

[comrade]

No, its not "overestimated". Its all we have to go on. Theres nothing in the story that says Shanks' "overwhelming power" or "peaceful nature" is why Sengoku and Gorosei made exceptions for him.

And yet the former king of God Valley is also the Supreme Commander of the God Knights. That person also shares a family name with Shanks. So forgive me if me actually reading the canon story and noticing the obvious connection isnt something you agree with.

Because it's obviously a mixture of both, since that argument wouldn't be true if Kaido was a Figarland. You took the fact the supreme commander of the Holy Knights, who is absolutely loyal to the World Government and adapts their doctrine flawlessly to claim that "Figarlands are allowed to execute other Celestial Dragons" and "since Shanks shares the same bloodline, he is given a special treatment compared to even the likes of Doflamingo, whose family was part of the inner circle and did fraction of what Shanks did".

Your conclusion doesn't follow from the premise, it's silly to call it "canon story".

 

[The White Crane]

Shanks haters and ZKKtards took the L again, nothing new.

@kurwa @Elder Lee Hung eternal AdmiraL L team. @The White Crane

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...oilers-discussion.43359/page-290#post-4392803

Of course if they can kill a Celestial Dragon, they would murderstomp Shanks (if they could) who chose to be not only a pirate, become a great pirate.

Heal from what I said or stay mad.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Because it's obviously a mixture of both, since that argument wouldn't be true if Kaido was a Figarland. You took the fact the supreme commander of the Holy Knights, who is absolutely loyal to the World Government and adapts their doctrine flawlessly to claim that "Figarlands are allowed to execute other Celestial Dragons" and "since Shanks shares the same bloodline, he is given a special treatment compared to even the likes of Doflamingo, whose family was part of the inner circle and did fraction of what Shanks did".

Your conclusion doesn't follow from the premise, it's silly to call it "canon story".

It took you 6 replies to tell me now its "obviously" both after telling me I was completely wrong lol.

Shanks' ability to meet with Gorosei Is based on multiple factors. They trust and listen to him for x reasons (we do not exactly know if its peaceful nature or CD influence, just implications based on what we read).

There you go. It still means @Herrera95 cant make good threads.

 

[Herrera95]

It took you 6 replies to tell me now its "obviously" both after telling me I was completely wrong lol.

Shanks' ability to meet with Gorosei Is based on multiple factors. They trust and listen to him for x reasons (we do not exactly know if its peaceful nature or CD influence, just implications based on what we read).

There you go. It still means @Herrera95 cant make good threads.

2 full pages by the time I lunch at work. I think it was a good thread.

 

[Paperchampion23]

2 full pages by the time I lunch at work. I think it was a good thread.

Nice a page per hour

 

[Herrera95]

Either the WG is extremely retarded, or Shanks just incredibly mighty given how he can basically do whatever he wants and the highest authorities of the WG still suck him off.

The guy who sits on the "empty throne" is not even allowed to be seeing by other people but Shanks is free to come and go, "fuck" with WG business and nothing happens with him...
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The fact that Figarlands can kill other CDs already alone implies their status is higher like the Gorosei lol.

You are headcannon about he being ABLE to kill other Tenryuubitos.

He was just the JUDGE. So it's like Tenryuubito having their own laws.
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Nice a page per hour

By the time you wake up it will be 10+ pages if keeping that pacing.
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Im absolutely not calling Shanks weak, but Sengoku stopped a war that he started with another Yonko. This really isnt about Yonko status, there is an obvious connection between him and his CD family.

Already explained in a thread how Sengoku only declared the end of the war after Mihawk left battlefield.
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Garling is clearly above other CDs as he is introduced as giving punishments to other CDs who are akin to Gods for outside world.

He is the Judge. So it's not about family. That person was the judge. To judge you have to base your judgment on laws. So is not like Garling simply decided to kill that Tenryuubito but the laws allowed him to have that judgment.

 

[Toryu]

He is the Judge. So it's not about family. That person was the judge. To judge you have to base your judgment on laws. So is not like Garling simply decided to kill that Tenryuubito but the laws allowed him to have that judgment.

Explain this

https://www.facebook.com/1000649503...TUNMRKLiYwiojLiRMhvw4yLHn1FFspAzNmMl/?app=fbl

 

[Herrera95]

Exactly.

Also, Doflamingo wasn't conidered a DC anymore (dunno about Shanks) and more than everything he was trying to blackmail the WG with the Imu's secret, which Shanks is not.

I guess having a bounty for your head pretty much means that you are not a Tenryuubito but just a pirate.
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Even this kid understood, but Admiral fans didn't

I'm most likely your potential stepfather
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Why not, maybe the day we see any other Empeor entering the room of the Gorosei in Marijoa you could claim that you were right lol.

Another Emperor will do it but not to have a peacefull conversation
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The obvious answer is that they are wild...Couldn't Roger come to Marineford to stop this war?

Be careful to not start a "Roger is also a Tenryuubito" theory from those crazy people.

 

[mmd]

I'm most likely your potential stepfather

Don't worry, you're retarded, if I had successful sex with my first girlfriend, my child would be your age now
You were bitch your ass like a whore in my threads

 

[Herrera95]

And, shanks fan somehow thinks that navy in that same arc stopped war because of mere yonkou status of Shanks (status which hold no meaning as navy fought war against a yonkou) and not because of his CD status

Sengoku stopped war on his own will. Not one made him do it. And if Sengoku somehow knew about it then Akainu would knew too agree? At least Akainu because he is now Fleet Admiral like Sengoku was at time.

Sengoku stopped the war because marine purpose, execute Ace, was fullfilled. Coby's words were right and Sengoku that was blind for the tension of war realized that and stopped the war. They killed Ace as they said they would and put pirates to run from them. They came out as superior to the whole world. So no more reason to let soldiers die at battlefield instead of taking care of them.
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Don't worry, you're retarded, if I had successful sex with my first girlfriend, my child would be your age now
You were bitch your ass like a whore in my threads

I don't even remember you and even more your threads. By the way congratulations for possibly having a child possibly older than you.
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Explain this

https://www.facebook.com/1000649503...TUNMRKLiYwiojLiRMhvw4yLHn1FFspAzNmMl/?app=fbl

Film Red is not cannon. Uta and Shanks can be Fingalard family but how Gorosei would act about it is completely not how Film Red portrayed.

 

[mmd]

I don't even remember you and even more your threads. By the way congratulations for possibly having a child possibly older than you.

I apologize if you were offended by the word kid, it is not worth discussing

 

[Dragon777]

I guess having a bounty for your head pretty much means that you are not a Tenryuubito but just a pirate.

We've Just seen a DC being executed, so I think one could be a criminal but also a DC.

Another Emperor will do it but not to have a peacefull conversation

Doubt it.
BB wants to straight up being part of the WG and we haven't seen even a sniff of a call between him and the Gorosei, let alone a meeting. Same for Kaido, who meddled with the Cp-0 via Orochi.

But we have Sengoku "just because of you" to demonstrate that Shansk is another thing.

 

[Juanpiz]

We've Just seen a DC being executed, so I think one could be a criminal but also a DC.



Doubt it.
BB wants to straight up being part of the WG and we haven't seen even a sniff of a call between him and the Gorosei, let alone a meeting. Same for Kaido, who meddled with the Cp-0 via Orochi.

But we have Sengoku "just because of you" to demonstrate that Shansk is another thing.

Well fatbeaed hasn't the best relationship with the gouverment since Betraying them