Powers & Abilities Shiki statement in the Databook blue deep

#41
You know that ruling the seas is just an expression and that Roger didn't actually rule anything? :kriwhat:
Yeah, an expression for the guy who stands at the Top. It was Roger's era, cause he stood at the Top of the Piracy World. After Roger died, it became Whitebeards era. Shiki didn't have what it took to dethrone Roger, despite all his manpower and Roger's lack there of.

These guys are all competing to stand at the top of the piracy World, which Roger did. Like what the hell are you even reading?
 

nik87

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#45
Yeah, an expression for the guy who stands at the Top. It was Roger's era, cause he stood at the Top of the Piracy World. After Roger died, it became Whitebeards era. Shiki didn't have what it took to dethrone Roger, despite all his manpower and Roger's lack there of.

These guys are all competing to stand at the top of the piracy World, which Roger did. Like what the hell are you even reading?
Shiki with his armada rule more than Roger ever did,lol. Unluckily for you, Roger shared that top with WB and Shiki.
Just because he made more headlines with his travels it doesnt put him individually abive either WB or Shiki. In fact he has never beaten either of them in a 1vs1.
 
#46
How come all those Top Tiers were on the losing end of a fight until a storm came and wiped out half of Shiki's fleet?
I don’t get the point? Everybody free to build there crews however.... nobody uses Rogers multiple top tiers against him. When discussing Rogers vs WBPs.

Rogers has multiple top tiers (oden/Rayleigh). WB for a while had oden. But shiki rivalry with sengoku suggest the marines viewed shiki crew at the very least more problematic then WBPs. It definitely wasn’t because of mass fodders imo.
 
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#47
OP fans need to stop using everything they find on the internet and use it as canon.....this is just someone writing a section in the magazine *speculating* about what the Yonko bounties could be. It's not a canon source like the vivrecard, sbs, etc

Basically what you did was similar to using some random guy's theory on the internet and then using it as proof for your own argument lol.
This is from shonen jump they need approval and supervision from oda and his editor you realize that? and it never said any confirmation on shanks bounty all it said is it "might" have the highest and leaves it ambiguous, but zoro fans should stop using vivre as canon
 
#48
This is from shonen jump they need approval and supervision from oda and his editor you realize that? and it never said any confirmation on shanks bounty all it said is it "might" have the highest and leaves it ambiguous, but zoro fans should stop using vivre card and use it as canon
You still don't get it. Firstly this was posted on V Jump not Shounen Jump secondly the section is a *speculation* of what the bounties might be from the person writing the column. It doesn't need supervision from Oda lol.
 
#49
Let me break it down for you.

90% of Databook content is simply rewording manga content and offers absolutely no new information

-Shiki is a great pirate = Established by chapter 0 and movie

-who once rivaled PK Roger = Battle of the Ed War which is said to have ended in a TIE after a storm saved Roger's ship.

That's it.

Databook only says Shiki rivals Roger because Shiki's fleet and Roger's crew fought to a stalemate.

Ace novel is an even worse offender literally 99% of everything said about Yonko and Shiki there is copy pasta'd from the manga.

Shiki ain't = to Roger.
 
#50
You still don't get it. Firstly this was posted on V Jump not Shounen Jump secondly the section is a *speculation* of what the bounties might be from the person writing the column. It doesn't need supervision from Oda lol.
I understand but you can't publish without getting supervision, check the movies, check the databooks it will always have Oda names at somewhere, secondly, speculation has nothing to do with shanks fighting equally with the admirals? lol you should embrace this all I got to do is pull up Oda calling WB the strongest pirate and the admirals embarrassing him, since you're offended I think admirals>mihawk which oda did approve. this magazine is no less canon then the one with law,zoro,kinemon that the milaugh fanboys started using
 
#52
He fought both Garp(top tier) and Sengoku(joke tier) for hours before get defeated. I hype him so much as WB. He has a plan that is ready for 2 years already. I really expect him to be the lurking legend Oda talked about.
So much wrong in this comment.
We have no indication on how long the fight lasted.
Roger spoke of Garp and Sengoku in the same breath, they're both in the same tier.
Shiki was dealt with in the movie, even if it isn't canon Oda won't bring him into the manga, it would confuse casual fans and the "plan" he wrote about in chapter 0 directly references the movie.
 
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Herrera95

#53
So much wrong in this comment.
We have no indication on how long the fight lasted.
Roger spoke of Garp and Sengoku in the same breath, they're both in the same tier.
Shiki was dealt with in the movie, even if it isn't canon Oda won't bring him into the manga, it would confuse casual fans and the "plan" he wrote about in chapter 0 directly references the movie.
Chapter 0 state that last several hours and their fight destroyed Marineford. Chapter 0 is cannon. Movie is not. Period. Oda wouldn't make a cannon character to appear only in movie.

Actually, I mean he can do a cannon character but wouldn't make an entire episode without putting him into manga. Both manga and anime bring Shiki image back. He most likely will show up. One of the few who left Impel Down.
 

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#56
He never lost to sengoku, there relationships similar to Rogers/garps. so he’s at least stronger then someone Rogers found worthy to fight. Tho nothing actually implies he’s weaker imo.
I didn't say Shiki lost to Sengoku, but there was a clear implication that he was weaker than Roger and WB. He was still capable of fighting Roger even if he's weaker just like Garp and Sengoku which is why I said he's probably on par with them.
 
#59
Shiki is/was a top tier

> Sengoku was viewing Shiki as a rival, same way Garp was doing with Roger

>Garp and Sengoku tag-teamed against him in a battle portrayed to have lasted long enough half of marineford was destroyed(and that was after taking out majority of their subordinates)

> Only pirate to have ever singlehandily escaped Impel Down even after losing to Garp and Sengoku, even after self-severing his limbs

Prime admiral Sengoku...
:steef:
Easily Yonkou lvl, would love to see Sengoku in prime with his op devilfruit power.
 
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