Break Week Shiryu stealing Yoru is a real possibility

#1
Oda needs to power up Shiryu. Despite him being Teach’s #2, he looked worse than Kuzan in the fight against Garp.

At the moment he honestly looks weaker than Zoro, with Zoro one shotting Lucci and clashing CoC with Nusjuro

Oda needs to power him up and with him already having a DF, the only other way is by powering up his sword.

I think the BBP could legitimately kill Mihawk, with Shiryu taking Yoru for himself. This isn’t to say that Shiryu could 1v1 Mihawk, but CG would be fucked if the BBP jumped them.

I think Mihawk would get 3v1ed, losing to Teach+Kuzan+Shiryu, with Shiryu getting the final hit via sneak.

In killing Mihawk, Shiryu will steal Zoro’s dream, preventing him from surpassing Mihawk. Zoro will defeat Shiryu to take back his masters sword and return it to Mihawk’s grave.

Eventually Zoro will get 3 black blades, defeat Nusjuro, and will be deamed WSSM as there will be no swordsman alive greater than him.

in any case, I think this theory would solve several issues:
  • Power ups Shiryu and makes him a formidable fight for Zoro, while creating a powerful motive for Zoro to beat Shiryu
  • Gives Mihawk a satisfying defeat(getting 3v1ed by Teach, Kuzan, and Shiryu)
  • Ties Zoro’s dream to the narrative. The WG is the final boss and the gorosei have been alive for centuries. With Mihawk gone, and Shanks possibly dying as well, Zoro will need to beat Nusjuro to achieve his dream.
 
#5
You all want any Swordsman to be WSS instead of Mihawk lol
You know why? It shows that your Problem isn't with a Character having Title of WSS
It's with Mihawk being Presented in a way that any Hype or Feat from him wouldn't Hype anyone else except Himself

If Oda made WSS Holder to be a Yonko or Admiral or Rival of Roger or Gorosei or a Commander ... etc
You would have embraced it, cuz He would be relatable to other Characters & allow you to use him for your Agenda

But since Mihawk doesn't share his Spot with others, then He is Anti-Agenda, his Hype is Exclusive to Him Alone
Hence why you are so Insecure about his Power & wish every Swordsman who appears is Stronger or Replace him
Keep Dreaming
 
#7
You all want any Swordsman to be WSS instead of Mihawk lol
You know why? It shows that your Problem isn't with a Character having Title of WSS
It's with Mihawk being Presented in a way that any Hype or Feat from him wouldn't Hype anyone else except Himself

If Oda made WSS Holder to be a Yonko or Admiral or Rival of Roger or Gorosei or a Commander ... etc
You would have embraced it, cuz He would be relatable to other Characters & allow you to use him for your Agenda

But since Mihawk doesn't share his Spot with others, then He is Anti-Agenda, his Hype is Exclusive to Him Alone
Hence why you are so Insecure about his Power & wish every Swordsman who appears is Stronger or Replace him
Keep Dreaming
I didn’t say Shiryu would replace Mihawk as WSSM, I said he would steal Yoru with the help of Teach and Kuzan.

The only character I think should be above Mihawk is Nusjuro, because it aligns with the narrative of the SHs ending the void century war.
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Shiryus just weaker than Kuzan. He doesn’t need a power up, he’s fine as is.
Shiryu needs a power up, not just because he’s below Kuzan, but because he’s wholeheartedly unimpressive compared to other YC1s.

Getting Yoru would put him on another level.
 
#8
Oda needs to power up Shiryu. Despite him being Teach’s #2, he looked worse than Kuzan in the fight against Garp.

At the moment he honestly looks weaker than Zoro, with Zoro one shotting Lucci and clashing CoC with Nusjuro

Oda needs to power him up and with him already having a DF, the only other way is by powering up his sword.

I think the BBP could legitimately kill Mihawk, with Shiryu taking Yoru for himself. This isn’t to say that Shiryu could 1v1 Mihawk, but CG would be fucked if the BBP jumped them.

I think Mihawk would get 3v1ed, losing to Teach+Kuzan+Shiryu, with Shiryu getting the final hit via sneak.

In killing Mihawk, Shiryu will steal Zoro’s dream, preventing him from surpassing Mihawk. Zoro will defeat Shiryu to take back his masters sword and return it to Mihawk’s grave.

Eventually Zoro will get 3 black blades, defeat Nusjuro, and will be deamed WSSM as there will be no swordsman alive greater than him.

in any case, I think this theory would solve several issues:
  • Power ups Shiryu and makes him a formidable fight for Zoro, while creating a powerful motive for Zoro to beat Shiryu
  • Gives Mihawk a satisfying defeat(getting 3v1ed by Teach, Kuzan, and Shiryu)
  • Ties Zoro’s dream to the narrative. The WG is the final boss and the gorosei have been alive for centuries. With Mihawk gone, and Shanks possibly dying as well, Zoro will need to beat Nusjuro to achieve his dream.
What if Zoro fights Aokiji and Law fights Shyriu?
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Shiryus just weaker than Kuzan. He doesn’t need a power up, he’s fine as is.
like...we didn't even see the guy going all out lol
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Oda needs to power up Shiryu. Despite him being Teach’s #2, he looked worse than Kuzan in the fight against Garp.

At the moment he honestly looks weaker than Zoro, with Zoro one shotting Lucci and clashing CoC with Nusjuro

Oda needs to power him up and with him already having a DF, the only other way is by powering up his sword.

I think the BBP could legitimately kill Mihawk, with Shiryu taking Yoru for himself. This isn’t to say that Shiryu could 1v1 Mihawk, but CG would be fucked if the BBP jumped them.

I think Mihawk would get 3v1ed, losing to Teach+Kuzan+Shiryu, with Shiryu getting the final hit via sneak.

In killing Mihawk, Shiryu will steal Zoro’s dream, preventing him from surpassing Mihawk. Zoro will defeat Shiryu to take back his masters sword and return it to Mihawk’s grave.

Eventually Zoro will get 3 black blades, defeat Nusjuro, and will be deamed WSSM as there will be no swordsman alive greater than him.

in any case, I think this theory would solve several issues:
  • Power ups Shiryu and makes him a formidable fight for Zoro, while creating a powerful motive for Zoro to beat Shiryu
  • Gives Mihawk a satisfying defeat(getting 3v1ed by Teach, Kuzan, and Shiryu)
  • Ties Zoro’s dream to the narrative. The WG is the final boss and the gorosei have been alive for centuries. With Mihawk gone, and Shanks possibly dying as well, Zoro will need to beat Nusjuro to achieve his dream.
Why not have Shyriu forge a black blade of his own or maybe he could steal Shusui.
 
F

Foul Legacy

#9
Even if he steals the sword. Where is he gonna get the Skills to use a totally different kind of sword. Omg. Bro think!

Shusui was still a katana which zoro took in , it was his type of sword only.
Yoru isn't built for shiryu
 
#10
What if Zoro fights Aokiji and Law fights Shyriu?
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like...we didn't even see the guy going all out lol
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Why not have Shyriu forge a black blade of his own or maybe he could steal Shusui.
Shusui wouldn’t be much hype

it’s only a great grade sword
 
#11
Shusui wouldn’t be much hype

it’s only a great grade sword
Shusui had crazy AP,bro. Black blades are especial.
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Even if he steals the sword. Where is he gonna get the Skills to use a totally different kind of sword. Omg. Bro think!

Shusui was still a katana which zoro took in , it was his type of sword only.
Yoru isn't built for shiryu
Yep,it doesn't fit his design either.
 
#12
Sometimes luffy's and zoro's opponents have resembling abilities.
Hody and Hyouzou both had the amphetamines
King and kaido both had magma related final attacks
Lucci and Kaku, both awakened now
Maybe there's more

Given how Shusui as black blade was pretty much useless for zoro (other than its hard metal body) I strongly suspect you need your own black blade with your own haki to utilize whatever feat it grants.

Zoro couldn't even use the black blade of someone he's related to. So yeah... Yoru probably won't use Shiryu much. Especially since it's a much different sword than his own. Thus it would even affect his fighting style negatively.

Given a 'kinda' pattern I'd suspect, it might be possible that Shiryu gets another devil fruit. If Blackbeard's trick is repeatable and not compulsory related to his weird body.


But yeah, Shiryu needs more feats. Or a better display to qualify as EoS opponent
 
#13
Shiryu is trash brah... Everyone in BBPs is trash garo already showed that. Only BB matters but that guy too probably will never fight seriously like say kaido.
 
#15
This is why i don't debate with people like this 😭 😭.. In big 2024 you think Oda is gonna end zoro's dream of 25yrs build up? Most anticipated fight ever in the Manga?? To make it worst shiryu stealing yoru to get a power up?? (when zoro had shusui what did he do with it except for it's really hard iron body??)

Even if Shiruyu, kuzan and bb all ganged up against Mihawk he still won't lose btw.. He's that strong. Zoro just clashed equally with a gorosei who is probably above yonko level and he's still not yet ready for Mihawk.. That should upscale Mihawk more
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#16
Bad bait, even worse cope. You have been through this denial phase several times. :milaugh:
Zoro's dream is impossible to everyone so nobody can steal it.
And Shiryu already has supreme grade sword and he cant make use of Yoru's power.
He is a DF merchant powering up through DFs.
You are not ready for the man standing on the top.
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
#17


Hakiman copes are getting bodied after Zoro attained AdvCoC, and it ages like milk every passing chapter.

Venus copers had a good run but with him having no black blade, the cope was short lived.

Now we go back to doubling down on Shiryu. 🤣 Some 2010s level theory.


Shanks wankers need to rest. You have been illiterate for 20 plus years, just let it go.
 
#19
Do you really want one of the most anticipated fights in the series to be thrown away just for Shiryu?
Getting a sword alone isn't even that big a powerup, it's not like it's going to give him a big boost in haki or sword-skill.

In your scenario, Mihawk is so strong it requires a 3v1; so instead of letting Zoro legitimately beat Mihawk, he instead has to downgrade to an inferior opponent, and he never gets the opportunity to prove himself stronger. It's narratively kinda disappointing.
 
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