Questions & Mysteries So, could Jinny possibly be Luffy's mother?

#1
In the latest chapter, we are introduced to a new person we've never seen before, that seems to have a connection to Kuma and Ivankov. The thing is, is we have not seen her before within the Revolutionary army. It's also oddly suspicious, that for her introduction, she is shown casually chopping down on a piece of meat, despite being in a pretty shitty situation. If this girl, who seems to be a slave alongside Ivankov and Kuma as a teenager, within the God Valley incident, then it would stand to reason that she would also help found, and become a commander of the Revolutionary Army, which she isn't one.

So this begs the question, as to what happened to this girl? Now we know practically next to nothing about Dragon's past, but we do know that something happened that would become the catalyst to him forming the Revolutionary army. Now at the time of the God Valley incident, Dragon would have been 17 years old, so it is possible that he could have been a Marine at the time. What if he was a Marine, and was also present at God Valley, and this is where he met Kuma and Ivankov? Well it stands to reason, that he would have also met this Slave Jinny as well.

So what if Dragon was on God Valley, and met all three of them, and him and Jinny fell in love? Years go by with Dragon married to Jinny, and one day the World Government finds out that she's was a former slave? She's either then taken back to Mariejois where she ends up dying, or is executed on the spot. That would be the catalyst that would push Dragon over the edge, and cause him to former the Revolutionary army.

I know it's not much to go on, but everything does fit pretty perfectly to setup Dragons decent in wanting to overthrow the Government if his wife, who was a former slave, ends up being killed by the Celestial Dragons because of it.
 
#3
While possible, it is not likely at this point.

This flashback are still Kuma's memories, and will surely revolve around him even if we get to see some interesting stuff about other characters in it. Keeping that in mind: that girl's a glutton with light colored hair, in the same age-range as Kuma, and a name that kind of resembles Bonney (-nney).

It's more than likely she's to become Kuma's partner and Bonney's mother, and tragedy will strike her eventually.
 
#4
No, Jinny is related to Bonney.
Oda showed us Jinny eating meat. When oda drew the worst generation as kid, Bonney was also eating meat:

Look how similar kid Bonney and Jinny are.
As AverageNamiEnjoyer point:
コニー (Conney)
ジーニー (Jinny)
ボニー (Bonney)
These three have the same name structure (Conney is the queen of Kuma's kingdom and she is identical to Bonney according to mary geoise guards)

Jinny is an abbreviation of Virginia, that means virgin. Jinny died virgin, she never had a daughter. So Jinny isnt Bonney mom. But she is related to Queen Conney of Sorbet Kingdom (she is probably her daughter).
But if Jinny didnt have a daughter how Bonney can be related to her? It's because Bonney is a clone of Jinny. Oda gave some hints that Bonney is a clone along this arc. My stocks are on Bonney being a clone of her.
 
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#5
Timeline wise it could I guess happen. They are far apart but seeing as obviously Jinny would be way older by the time Luffy gets born maybe it could work? But in all honesty, kid Kuma just met this girl, and the flashback is mostly centered around him so Jinny being Bonnie's mom and Kumas wife makes far more sense.

Also, lets be real here guys just because a female character eats a drumstick of meat that does not make them Luffys mom. Com on now!
 
#7
She could be Bonneys mom or Luffys mom, who knows. But it's not like Dragon has to actively groom her. She could be the one fawning over him and then they become an item 15-20 years later.

Dragon is 55.
In God Valley he was 17.
Luffy was conceived 20 years ago when Dragon was 35.

Say Jinney is 7 in God Valley.
When she hooked up with Dragon could easily be age 20-24 giving birth at 25.

I know it's not the best example due to what the author did but you do have a parallell in Aoshi and what's her name in Rurouni Kenshin. Aoshi was stand offish, wanted nothing to do with her. She idolized him from childhood. And then I think they became an item when she was 20+.

Perhaps best she just is Bonneys mom so we don't have an unnecessary debate.
 
#10
Revos Army was founded 22 Years Ago
And it's Members were only Dragon, Kuma & Ivankov
So if Jinny is Dead, then She died long before Luffy was born

However, Bonney is clearly very Young, her Age isn't 24
She is probably not Older than 16

So if someone says She is Bonney's Mother, then She is either Alive or Died recently
Which begs the question, where is Jinny? Why isn't She among Founding Members of Revos Army?

There are Three Possibilities, either She was Loyal to another Rebel Group, or She was left to live a Normal Life or She never Escaped.
Bonney's Picture as a Child seems to portray her as a Slave who was rescued & fed, so it seems Jinny didn't escape with Kuma/Ivankov

But how can Jinny stay Pregnant while being a Slave, They would neither allow it nor keep her Alive, unless....

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We also know that Bonney did live on Sorbet Kingdom when her Father was a King, which means She lived free & then turned Slave, how?
Same as Year of God's Valley Incident, CDs picked Sorbet Kingdom to enslave all of it's People, since this Event happens every Three Years, then CDs did this 5 or 8 or 11 or 14 Years Ago

That means for a short period, Bonney was turned Slave, but was Saved, how? By her Father making a Deal with WG to create an Army of his Clones (Buccaneer Pacifista) and also Kuma joing Shichibukai, when was Last Time a Shichibukai Spot was Vaccant? During Ace Flashback, He was Invited to join 5 Years ago but He refused, meaning Kuma joined Warlords 5 Years ago to save his Daughter & Kingdom

In this Scenario, Jinny could have Died (Assuming She isn't Alive) anytime between 5 Years Ago and Year of Bonney's Birth
(She is no Older than 13)

So Jinny is definitely Bonney's Mother, but is She really Kuma's Wife?
Akainu clearly Hates Dragon so much and He wanted to Capture Bonney for Unknown Reasons, She is also named after Real-Life Pirate Ann Bonney, and Oda not only said that if Roger had a Daughter instead of Son, She would be named Ann, and it's also Name of Girl who accompanied Luffy in his One-Shot before Manga started

So could it be that due to Dragon being Most Wanted, He needed a Safe Place for his Wife & Child, and what's better place than a Kingdom ruled by your best friend? Who pretended to be Bonney's Father so that She doesn't get into trouble (He hid truth even from her) or maybe that's why her Name isn't Bartholomew

Could it be that Bonney is Luffy's Sister & Jinny is Mother of both!
 
#11
If Bonney isn't so much focused on this arc....
I bet or wish she is Luffy's mom, she resembles Luffy too much with her goofy appearance and a free spirited aura which is complete opposite of Dragon's appearance/character and so her being Luffy's mom fits perfectly......

But sadly it's 99% Bonney mom if any (and ironically may not be a mom to anyone..... just a new char lol)
 
#13
No, Jinny is related to Bonney.
Oda showed us Jinny eating meat. When oda drew the worst generation as kid, Bonney was also eating meat:

Look how similar kid Bonney and Jinny are.
As AverageNamiEnjoyer point:
コニー (Conney)
ジーニー (Jinny)
ボニー (Bonney)
These three have the same name structure (Conney is the queen of Kuma's kingdom and she is identical to Bonney according to mary geoise guards)

Jinny is an abbreviation of Virginia, that means virgin. Jinny died virgin, she never had a daughter. So Jinny isnt Bonney mom. But she is related to Queen Conney of Sorbet Kingdom (she is probably her daughter).
But if Jinny didnt have a daughter how Bonney can be related to her? It's because Bonney is a clone of Jinny. Oda gave some hints that Bonney is a clone along this arc. My stocks are on Bonney being a clone of her.
This pretty much. Nice explanation.
 
#18
I’d wager that it’s Bonney’s. Bonney-Ginny, their names have a similar ring to it, plus this is a flashback focused on Bonney’s father and she’s introduced alongside Iva. Probably Kuma’s first friends, I could see it being one becomes a brother and the other a future lover. These are rev characters so Dragon could possibly show up but this isn’t about him right now. Also Bonney is as much as a glutton as Luffy, I at first thought this would be Luffy’s mom but after a minute it began to click.
 
#20
Oh, right.
I doubt she's Luffy’s mom but we'll see Ig.
I know people are speculating that she's Bonney's mother, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Kuma became the King of Sorbet Kingdom, which means he married the former Queen. When Bonney infiltrated Mariejois, she aged herself, and ended up looking exactly like "Connie" who was the current Queen of Sorbet Kingdom. So Jinny would have to be Connie's daughter in order for her and Kuma to be the former King and Queen of Sorbet Kingdom. (Connie reassuming the role, once Jinny died) That's poses the question as to why a Princess was kidnapped by the CD's and was made to become slave.
 
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