Powers & Abilities So Gorosei got the Ope2 immortality ?

Do you think Gorosei are immortals

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#1
In 1095 we see two things which seems to confirm that Idea :
- First : Saturn's wound disapeared as Franky pointed out which could be a consequence of the operation
- Second : During the God Valley incident 38yrs ago Saturn have the same face as now. Which makes me think he don't age
 
#2
Saturn is for sure immortal, the only question is if it is because he got the surgery or he is a straight-up devil/demon and that is just one of the buffs their race has. Maybe the devil can just regenerate from any and all attacks that do not directly damage their soul or essence.

But yeah, if it is the surgery that did this I guess we now know why Doffy wanted it so bad. It is not just eternal youth type of immortality but straight-up damage-negation immortality.
 
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#3
Saturn is for sure immortal, the only question is if it is because he got the surgery or he is a straight-up devil/demon and that is just one of the buffs their race has. Maybe the devil can just regenerate from any and all attacks that do not directly damage their soul or essence.

But yeah, if it is the surgery that did this I guess we now know why Doffy wanted it so bad. It is not just eternal youth type of immorality but straight-up damage negation immorality.
I think it's both eternal youth and damage healing
I don't they are devils but regular humans who thinks to High of themselves
 
#5
I think it's both eternal youth and damage healing
I don't they are devils but regular humans who thinks to High of themselves
We will have to see. I do find it suspicious Oda gave Saturn a unique transformation and did not name-drop his devil fruit in the latest title card. I think that he committed the devil fruit because Saturn did not eat one but IS a devil/demon. Until we have it confirmed he is just a fruit eater there is a lot of special stuff involving him that makes me think he and the other Gorosei are special.
 
#6
Gorosei & Imu are Demons, Yokai, Jinn, Devils ... etc
They are Same Race of Beings that live inside DFs
Beings made of Pure Energy, Pure Haki

They are Immortal just like Devils inside DFs are also Immortal
If a DF User Dies, their Soul leaves the World but Devils are Recycled & enter a New Fruit
Meaning these Yokai are "Immortals"

Why? It's because after Death, They end up going to a Place where They are sent back, it's like Second Afterlife
The One who rules this Afterlife is the one who made these Devils end up in his World instead of Real Afterlife (God's Afterlife)
It's literally "Making a Deal with The Devil himself"

Have we seen such Place? Yes it's in Mary Geoise, it's basically OP Version of Davy Jones Locker
And as long as this Place + It's Ruler still Exist, these Devils/Yokai will always be Immortal
 
#7
Saturn is for sure immortal, the only question is if it is because he got the surgery or he is a straight-up devil/demon and that is just one of the buffs their race has. Maybe the devil can just regenerate from any and all attacks that do not directly damage their soul or essence.

But yeah, if it is the surgery that did this I guess we now know why Doffy wanted it so bad. It is not just eternal youth type of immorality but straight-up damage negation immorality.
Interesting thoughts! When Saturn said "why don't you HUMANS do as you are told" I became convinced he was of another race. I specifically referred to Imu and Gorosei as New World Skypiea, i.e. Enel and Priests (+Yama).

As we know there are many parallells between Paradise and New World destinations and enemies. Take Alabasta and Dressrosa, it is essentially a comparison of trying to take over vs 10 years of having took over. It's often inversed.

In this case instead of having God Enel and his 5 Priests (4+Yama) rule in the sky you have The Devil Imu and his 5 Demons (Gorosei) rule the oceans. And that is what Sabo referred to as well when he said he never imagined the top of the world would be the real destination of Hell.

Would be fitting if their race has a special power like no selling physical attacks and only being susceptible to soul (top haki) attacks.
 
#8
Interesting thoughts! When Saturn said "why don't you HUMANS do as you are told"
Would be fitting if their race has a special power like no selling physical attacks and only being susceptible to soul (top haki) attacks.
I think this might be the only way to even fight them. Haki is basically very weak reality bending if Ashura is really a pure haki technique since Zoro actually manifests those arms and the extra heads via sheer willpower. In that scenario, strong haki users fighting an immortal might be able to "force" them to be mortal via going "nuh uh!" after they reveal they are immortal and just killing them despite their immortality.
 
#9
Interesting thoughts! When Saturn said "why don't you HUMANS do as you are told" I became convinced he was of another race. I specifically referred to Imu and Gorosei as New World Skypiea, i.e. Enel and Priests (+Yama).

As we know there are many parallells between Paradise and New World destinations and enemies. Take Alabasta and Dressrosa, it is essentially a comparison of trying to take over vs 10 years of having took over. It's often inversed.

In this case instead of having God Enel and his 5 Priests (4+Yama) rule in the sky you have The Devil Imu and his 5 Demons (Gorosei) rule the oceans. And that is what Sabo referred to as well when he said he never imagined the top of the world would be the real destination of Hell.

Would be fitting if their race has a special power like no selling physical attacks and only being susceptible to soul (top haki) attacks.
World's Version of Enel isn't Introduced yet imo

Currently, Main Villain Groups are Celestial Dragons, Marine HQ & BB Pirates
Soon, Man With Burn Scar & his Crew will join them

Mary Geoise is New Wano (Imu is New Orochi, but not Power-Level Wise ofc, this time Mary Geoise is actually Super Powerful, unlike Wano that was Nothing compared to it's Prime or Potential). Marine HQ is New Dressrosa (Akainu is New Doflamingo, i can prove it if you want). Beehive Island is New Whole Cake Island (Blackbeard is New Big Mom). And Man With Burn Scar gonna be New Kaidou, with Onigashima actually being Mary Geoise Secret Place (Which is Davy Jones Locker)

So We won't have Marine HQ Arc + Beehive Island Arc, instead Oda is simply gonna Mix them up in One Single Battle Royale
(Man With Burn Scar + Imu + Blackbeard + Akainu VS Luffy + Dragon + Shanks + Cross Guild)

As for Enel Figure of The World, He isn't Introduced yet, Imu doesn't match Enel's Dominance over Skypiea
Instead Dorry already told us who have Enel-Like Rulership & that's "God of Elbaf"
 

nik87

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#10
Gorosei not aging due to Ope no Mi's operation was predictable.
If the healing ability is a result of that operation, that ability is better than I thought it was.
Practically, there is no need for a Lunarian body if Eternal Youth surgery can negate damage.
However, the healing part could be DF's ability considering Marco's healing...
 
#12
Seems to be the route that Oda is taking. Immortality in media is usually split between never dying of old age or being unkillable. Then there’s both, like Vandal Savage.
 
#14
In 1095 we see two things which seems to confirm that Idea :
- First : Saturn's wound disapeared as Franky pointed out which could be a consequence of the operation
- Second : During the God Valley incident 38yrs ago Saturn have the same face as now. Which makes me think he don't age
Possibly, thats probably why government pays 5 billion for Ope Ope no Mi, if they get that they can add another Elder to their group.



I think they might have people like Garling waiting on the line to join Gorosei if they get another Ope immortality.

I wonder if Darkness can stop their immortality since it comes from DF operation, if Darkness works against it, then Teach really needed that DF to defeat the immortals. Because Teach also knew about Ope immortality.

Although Dof had other plan, he was planning Ope to use it against them.
 
#15
No, I don't think that the Gorosei are immortal, not even only by age. If they were fully immortal (impossible to kill also), they would just get down and hunt all Yonko and revos by themselves. By age is also unlikely, as some of them didn't know much about the Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika (chapter #1037). They don't seem to be "all-knowing" like Imu.
 
#16
No, I don't think that the Gorosei are immortal, not even only by age. If they were fully immortal (impossible to kill also), they would just get down and hunt all Yonko and revos by themselves. By age is also unlikely, as some of them didn't know much about the Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika (chapter #1037). They don't seem to be "all-knowing" like Imu.
How do you explain them looking the exact same around fourty years prior? For reference, this is the difference between Garling in that same span of time

He looks drastically different, the Gorosei look the exact same

Also it could just be that they only "became" immortal 200-400 years ago or something, instead of being around during the void century like Imu presumably.
 
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#17
How do you explain them looking the exact same around fourty years prior? For reference, this is the difference between Garling in that same span of time

He looks drastically different, the Gorosei look the exact same

Also it could just be that they only "became" immortal 200-400 years ago or something, instead of being around during the void century like Imu presumably.
Is there an actual fully-fleshed flashback of them in the God Valley's Incident? The oldest flashback I remind from the Gorosei is the MADS one (estimated 30 or so years before the present, after God Valley), although Ohara is the only one that has a time reference (22 years ago), and only a silhouette is shown. We just know for sure that the group hasn't changed in 3 decades, but their appearance details aren't known. I mean, Crocus would pretty much look the same if shown in a silhoutte 50+ years ago (Rumbar Pirates flashback, just look at when they first showed up in chapter #103).


Still, you could say: "if they're elders, then they must be old to be part of the group". Maybe they could age slower or just have very long lifespans due to their yet unknown abilities? Or maybe just due to their royal lineage? We already have Dr. Kureha at 141 years old showing that humans in One Piece can last much longer than in real life.
 
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