General & Others So Kidd DID defeat a Sweet Commander

[Fn Lucci]

Yeah there's no way it would have been a stronger commander. But you have people suggesting Kid was the one to scar Cracker 🤡

 

[Mugiwara56]

If I beat you up and take your lunch money, you lost simple as that. Wtf is kid didn't defeat a sweet commander bullshit ? He not only injured a sweet commander but also TOOK A PONEGLYPH. THATS DEFEAT OF HIGHEST ORDER.
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Why do you think it was snack ? For all we know it might have been smoothie or cracker. He roughed them up and got a poneglyph and escaped, thats Victory.

I didn't say Kid lost on his objective, I'm the one saying no matter the outcome of the fight there was Kid is victorious no matter he hurt a commander and beat a commander. He is victorious here he got a copy of the poneglyph.

And I said that if would have beaten a commander he would have said as he did for Urouge, in addition it is even who Kid in Caribou in chapter 928 or 929 that he injured a commander to just recover what 'he wanted Kid fought with a commander = he hurt him but didn't beat him Kid took his poneglyph from him Kid to victory without needing to beat the commander

 

[Gladwing0]

Assuming it is Snack which coupled with losing to Urouge is why he was demoted (since cracker & Katakuri haven’t been demoted for also losing)

 

[Jailer]

Kid himself never mentions anything about defeating a sweet commander. It's a good feat for him but he never defeated one.

He himself never said that he defeated one.

But he sure got the better of them.

 

[Roo]

I guess snack is one of those dudes who brags about what he has in the bar, then gets mugged outside of his home.

Which means that Kid didn't win a fight but managed to pull off a secret upset. Doesn't contradict anything else (Brulee or Caribou) so I don't see the problem.

He forced him to give him the info, that’s literally the same as defeating someone

 

[JoNdule]

TCB really went on mistranslating what kid said

Kid never even said he forced the sc to hand over the Copy of BMP

He basically took what was his in the first place from SC who stole /took it

 

[Fn Lucci]

He forced him to give him the info, that’s literally the same as defeating someone

Not literally. Insiders like Brulee could deny it, and outsiders like Caribou were able spread the twisted take on events across the world as a rumor. Until Law and Kid combined to take down Big Mom legitimately, it was really just a moral victory.

 

[JoNdule]

He forced him to give him the info, that’s literally the same as defeating someone

He didn't force him to give him thr infos or wci rp copy

Kid took back his own rp copy from SC

 

[Roo]

Not literally. Insiders like Brulee could deny it, and outsiders like Caribou were able spread the twisted take on events across the world as a rumor. Until Law and Kid combined to take down Big Mom legitimately, it was really just a moral victory.

So let me get this straight, hurting someone to the point where they are literally giving you everything they have in terms of treasure isn’t defeating them?

have you guys ever heard of surrendering lol

 

[Fn Lucci]

So let me get this straight, hurting someone to the point where they are literally giving you everything they have in terms of treasure isn’t defeating them?

have you guys ever heard of surrendering lol

Hurting them? Surrender? Um, we didn't see anyone surrender or get hurt. We don't even know the Commander to whom they refer in this latest chapter lol

It's unlike the fight with Crocodile where the government gave one story but other people were able to figure out the truth of the outcome. Kid accomplished something at WCI but by no means is it something that matters, his reputation now is 100% based on the events of Wano.

But in many words I already said that it was a technical victory so no idea what you want

 

[Monkey D Theories]

No he didn't. Brulee herself says that the only one that came close was Urouge by defeating the weakest "commander". Kid was thrown out like a lightweight.
Kid himself says that he only managed to wound one

Clearly, they don’t know that Kid stole the poneglyph
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Anyways regardless of who this is, this is clearly a W for Kid

 

[Jinjoo]

Kid himself never mentions anything about defeating a sweet commander. It's a good feat for him but he never defeated one.

He himself never said that he defeated one.

But he sure got the better of them.

He spoke about injuring a sweet commander and taking something from them.
Later on in this chapter he says again he took poneglyph from one of big mom's sweet commander. That's victory. He invaded enemy territory beat up a sweet commander took poneglyph and fucked off without any injury on himself (that we know of). That's clinical as fuck. If you have hand over poneglyph of invading force, you are the loser.

 

[Finalbeta]

I wonder whom he could fight at the final war

 

[kurohime]

After so many years of people insisting
"He didn't defeat one, just injured them and ran away"

Kidd apparently FORCED a Sweet commander to hand over the RP copy.

"B-but he didn't KO them"

"B-but he left before backup showed up"

If he forced the Sweet commander to give it up then either the commander knew Kidd would kill him, or it's Smoothie and Oda is shipping them.

And why the fuck would Kidd who was still a Rookie in the New World want to fight an Entire Yonko crew so early? He took the RP and left. That's not an L to him, that's an L to Big Meme

Kidd AND Killer needed for the weakest Sweet Commander

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Never mind that, why is a sweet commander running around witha a RP copy?

Oda is getting lazier in his explanations.

 

[Finalbeta]

Low YC1 level Kidd? @MonsterKaido

 

[VisualKei]

Why a sweet commander would have a Road Poneglyph copy and sailing like a boss

But still Ma D. Monk Urouge more impressive than Kid

 

[NAMELESS]

After so many years of people insisting
"He didn't defeat one, just injured them and ran away"

Kidd apparently FORCED a Sweet commander to hand over the RP copy.

"B-but he didn't KO them"

"B-but he left before backup showed up"

If he forced the Sweet commander to give it up then either the commander knew Kidd would kill him, or it's Smoothie and Oda is shipping them.

And why the fuck would Kidd who was still a Rookie in the New World want to fight an Entire Yonko crew so early? He took the RP and left. That's not an L to him, that's an L to Big Meme

Big meme and her goons are a joke.

 

[vikas]

Nah...urouge finished the job. He left him with a half assed job. Then Urouge had to take care of Snack and get dumpstered by cracker.


Its all BS to me though, why did snack carry around Lode phoneglyph copy for no reason? Like we saw how heavily its being guarded and all...

 

[Pantheos]

Maybe Snack was in charge of guarding the RP on WCI. When Kid showed up, he fought Snack, but just as much as needed, took a copy of the RP and left, while Snack was wounded enough to not being able to follow. And when Uruoge appeared, he tried the same, but Snack wasnt in charge of the guard anymore and still heavily wounded, so he beat him up. Thats why Snack then got downgraded.