Powers & Abilities So, what Exactly is Imu Powers, and New Advanced Conqueror Ability? (Negation) and Power of Love Explanation.

[Cruxroux]

Is it a Devil Fruit Ability? Or Imu is entirely different " Being " or a species?

Given that we had seen, 4 confirmed God's existence in one piece World.

• Sun God - Nika
  • Confirmed to be a Devil Fruit Ability
• Rain God - Unknown
  • Unknown Source
• Forest God - Unknown
  • Unknown Source
• Earth god - Unknown
  • Unknown Source

Imu is confirmed to be one of them.

But if it's Devil Fruit ...
Isn't it Kinda busted that only " Advanced Conqueror " is the counter to its abilities?

We have Broken Ability Fruits like

• Perona Fruit Hax - Negative
  • Ussop Countered it Because he was Always Negative.
• Bigmom Fruit Hax - Soul Manipulation
  • Jimbei countered it because He was not " Scared " of Big Mom.
• Sugar Fruit Hax - Human's to toy Conversation
  • No Counter so far if I'm not wrong. A contract can be a way but they would still turn into a toy
• Hancock Fruit Hax - Using Lust to Petrify
  • Even a Vice Admiral countered it with Enough Emotion suppression.

Yet None of their counters is Haki.
It's basic Human Emotion.

We have Awakening Powers that bypass even advanced Conqueror Haki.

• Law - Bypassed Bigmom Defence
• Kidd - Applied the magnetic poles property on Bigmom

So if Imu is an Awakened user, (Assuming he has Devil fruit).

- None of Luffy's Attacks Worked on Gorosei.

Yet Gaban Advanced Conqueror, (I don't think anyone here should have a doubt about Luffy being a Stronger user of Advanced Conqueror Haki), worked.

It has to be a New Conqueror Ability, Devil Fruit Negation.

• Now, I know basic Haki can be used by a Haki Devil Fruit user. (Non-Conqueror Ability)
• More Intensity of it can be used to counter their Hax. (Non-Conqueror Ability)
• For Conqueror Users, there should be one Special Case to counter even Awakening Abilities.

Which I presume is the case with Gaban saying " Be more focused/conscious on how you use your Conqueror ".

Spoiler

Loki seems to have figured out something.

Now Basic doubts from this Theory are.

• Why could Big Mom and Kaidou not resist Awakening Hax?
  • Because they don't have this Ability. Or Advanced Conqueror Property.
  • Their Haki was simply so strong at the base compared to opponents' Non-Awakened Hax to counter it.
  • But even they couldn't counter Awakened Powers.
    • Luffy played around with Kaidou due to his awakening Hax.
    • Law K-room of no sound, worked against Bigmom.
    • Kidd Hax couldn't be countered by Big Mom.

With this advanced conqueror ability, one can avoid hax like

• Sugar - Human to Toy Conversion.
• Perona - Negative
• Bigmom - Soul Pocus
• Hancock - Mero Mero no Mi hax.

Except Sugar, one thing common among other Hax users is:-

• They have other counters as well. Which is related to emotions.
  • Bigmom - Just be brave enough.
  • Perona - being Negative themselves.
  • Hancock - Lust Control

So given this, Imu should have an alternate Counter to his Ability too.

I suspect it to be " Power of Love ". (Assumption) why??

1. Kuma Attacking Saturn (Many will discredit it)
   • It's anime only, I know. But I'm putting all my money on Anime Foreshadowing things before Manga. The first one is Zoro Conqueror Haki. There was no such moment in manga.
   • For Kuma, it's punching Saturn and Saturn is Unable to regenerate immediately. He did regenerate like Sommers after Gaban was taken out of commission. " There was a delay ".
   • Franky specifically mentions He isn't regenerating anymore. And then he does after Kuma goes out of commission.
   • Spoiler

     
   • Vegapunk starts to theorise that the Buccaneers have the inherent ability to use the Power of Love and something in the same line to not lose their conscious mind.
     • Kuma not losing his Mind after Vegapunk using the self-destruction button.
     • Sanji not losing his mind from Germa's experiments.
       • Both Kuma and Sanji had Kindness since they were kids.
2. Sanji using the Power of Love
   • Spoiler

     
3. Garp uses the power of love
   • Spoiler

     
   • Marco's Healing abilities heal everything. Yet, bro was in a bandage on his head, exactly where Garp hit him.
   • Marco was not hurt by any of the Admiral's attacks.
   • Spoiler

     

Think of it yourself.
The power of love is coming back into action in the Egghead and Elbaf arc, where Gorosei and Holyknights are the villains.

Like how Advanced Conqueror came into action with Characters like Kaidou.


Another Example of Devil Fruit Negation with Advanced Conqueror Haki is Shanks pushing Greenbull back to its Base form. I don't think Greenbull did it himself. The same goes for Akainu's reaction to Shanks.


As for Sanji, the Better he utilises the Power of love, the Stronger his Flames will be. Because in Thriller Barks, His Passion is what makes it burn hotter.

Wano Arc gave them a power-up based on what they are good at.
Luffy -> AdCoC and Gear 5
Zoro -> AdCoC and King of Hell
Sanji -> Exoskeleton and Ifrit Jambe

In Wano Increased Speed and Exoskeleton are what made his Flames Go even hotter than Diable Jambe.

Elbaf Arc Power up,
Luffy and Zoro -> DF Negation
Sanji -> Power of Love improvement.

Neither of the three is getting new Power-ups. Just improving what they are already good at.

Luffy and Zoro -> Already has Conqueror Coating, one of the advantage Forms. Now the devil fruit Negation.

Sanji -> Power of Love is what saved him from turning Evil like his brothers. Now, the Further Improvement will come.


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[Monkey D Theories]

I think Hajrudin will use power of love to save the Giant Warriors.

He’s always been treated like shit because his mother was of a foreign tribe.

What if his mom had buccaneer blood? And through her, Hajrudin inherited the power of love, like Kuma? It would make sense because Ida’s entire character seems to be about how she loves others. It’s one of the fundamental differences between Hajrudin and Loki.

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By saving the giant warriors with love, Hajrudin will prove he’s worthy of his father’s throne.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Okay so how does the power of love allow Sanji to bypass the regen without ACoC, but then also dissipate a laser and then allow him to retain his emotions, but then also fuel his fire, but then also allow him to switch his mods. This seems like a massive ass-pull, if this is the case. If the Power of Love could do all these things it would be the single most op ability bypassing even Haki, so unless Sanji is going to be Imu level at the end, it can’t be the answer to everything.

 

[BattalGazi]

I would rather Sanji to have Kings haki

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Is it a Devil Fruit Ability?

Morj has a good theory about it

 

[MonsterKaido]

Devil powers - Devil contracts , devil summons , devil transformation etc.

It's either a god DF like Nika DF or imu is OG devil.

He is is either Earth god or forest god or both.

 

[Bad English]

 

[Blax Blah]

It's possible Law and Kidd bypassed Big Mom's haki because their haki became strong enough to be able to do that, not because of awakening

I mean they were awakened on the rooftop and didn't use it, and Law didn't act like if they used it they would have been able to bypass Big Mom's haki

 

[Jailer]

100% df and haki shenanigans to counter him because he also has powerful haki to boot btw

 

[nedo]

This makes more sense than Sanji suddenly getting this new advanced conquerors haki technique this arc. Zoro had Enma to help him and he’s been unconsciously tapping into haki since pre timeskip so it’s understandable that he tapped into ACoC during Wano. Sanji suddenly getting conquerors haki then learning this new advanced version the same arc Luffy and Zoro learn it will be a huge ass pull. Unless the power of love is tied to conquerors haki which I can definitely see being a possibility.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

This makes more sense than Sanji suddenly getting this new advanced conquerors haki technique this arc. Zoro had Enma to help him and he’s been unconsciously tapping into haki since pre timeskip so it’s understandable that he tapped into ACoC during Wano. Sanji suddenly getting conquerors haki then learning this new advanced version the same arc Luffy and Zoro learn it will be a huge ass pull. Unless the power of love is tied to conquerors haki which I can definitely see being a possibility.

Zoro getting ACoC despite not showing ACoC is an asspull of the highest order. It made no sense. So if that can happen, why can’t Oda give Sanji an equally asspull power.

 

[Cruxroux]

Okay so how does the power of love allow Sanji to bypass the regen without ACoC, but then also dissipate a laser and then allow him to retain his emotions, but then also fuel his fire, but then also allow him to switch his mods. This seems like a massive ass-pull, if this is the case. I

If you have a better explanation, I'll wait.

. If the Power of Love could do all these things, it would be the single most op ability, bypassing even Haki, so unless Sanji is going to be Imu level at the end, it can’t be the answer to everything.

What part of it says Sanji will be IMU level?

Dissipating a Laser = Power of Love, claimed by Sanji himself
Just a Counter to DF, Which Haki does Anyway.

Retain his emotion? How else do you think Sanji is still not " Evil "? Or lost his mind and became a Mindless/emotionless man just like Kuma did?

It is not an answer to everything.
- > Just like how, stronger Haki helps negate ability. A stronger form of the Power of Love will do the same, specifically for Imu Devil Fruit.

100% df and haki shenanigans to counter him because he also has powerful haki to boot btw

I'm talking about Other counters, if Imu has Devil Fruit Ability.

It's possible Law and Kidd bypassed Big Mom's haki because their haki became strong enough to be able to do that, not because of awakening

I mean they were awakened on the rooftop and didn't use it, and Law didn't act as if they used it they would have been able to bypass Big Mom's haki

Then why couldn't Law just Teleport Big Mom after that?

I would rather Sanji have King's Haki

Works for me too

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Zoro getting ACoC despite not showing ACoC is an asspull of the highest order. It made no sense. So if that can happen, why can’t Oda give Sanji an equally asspull power?

If you read Elbaf, Oda made it clear, Zoro was using it and leaking it the entire time unconsciously.
Now he is getting " Confirmed " , will use " Conqueror coating " Consciously ".
Even during Wano Moments and hints were there.
There are no such for Sanji.
Even current conqueror discussion was luffy and zoro with gaban

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

If you have a better explanation, I'll wait.



What part of it says Sanji will be IMU level?

Dissipating a Laser = Power of Love, claimed by Sanji himself
Just a Counter to DF, Which Haki does Anyway.

Retain his emotion? How else do you think Sanji is still not " Evil "? Or lost his mind and became a Mindless/emotionless man just like Kuma did?

It is not an answer to everything.
- > Just like how, stronger Haki helps negate ability. A stronger form of the Power of Love will do the same, specifically for Imu Devil Fruit.


I'm talking about Other counters, if Imu has Devil Fruit Ability.


Then why couldn't Law just Teleport Big Mom after that?


Works for me too

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If you read Elbaf, Oda made it clear, Zoro was using it and leaking it the entire time unconsciously.
Now he is getting " Confirmed " , will use " Conqueror coating " Consciously ".
Even during Wano Moments and hints were there.
There are no such for Sanji.
Even current conqueror discussion was luffy and zoro with gaban

because it would be stupid to have an established system of power haki and then just say well there’s another system that allows you to do exactly the same thing but on a larger more grander scale. Also it makes Sanji the only one who this system has been implemented for which would make him the most relevant character in the story whereby an entire power system used by literally everyone is re-written as unnecessary for a character.

 

[Jailer]

If you have a better explanation, I'll wait.



What part of it says Sanji will be IMU level?

Dissipating a Laser = Power of Love, claimed by Sanji himself
Just a Counter to DF, Which Haki does Anyway.

Retain his emotion? How else do you think Sanji is still not " Evil "? Or lost his mind and became a Mindless/emotionless man just like Kuma did?

It is not an answer to everything.
- > Just like how, stronger Haki helps negate ability. A stronger form of the Power of Love will do the same, specifically for Imu Devil Fruit.


I'm talking about Other counters, if Imu has Devil Fruit Ability.


Then why couldn't Law just Teleport Big Mom after that?


Works for me too

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If you read Elbaf, Oda made it clear, Zoro was using it and leaking it the entire time unconsciously.
Now he is getting " Confirmed " , will use " Conqueror coating " Consciously ".
Even during Wano Moments and hints were there.
There are no such for Sanji.
Even current conqueror discussion was luffy and zoro with gaban

If you mean coutnering his domi reverse, besides haki then I think Tsuru and maybe that drawf who has healing power (forgot her name) have potential df power to reverse their evil

Anyway Sanji will have CoC to fight these guys, or a science power that equals CoC so a win win situation for WANJI

 

[nik87]

As Rayleigh said - You can learn to manipulated Conqueror's haki but you cant make it stronger directly.
This DF negation is manipulation of Haki but I dont think it is CoC only.
Law has proven that CoA too can negate DF effects, just in an inferior way.

Law's demonstration shows that COA can be used to negate harmful DF hax on oneself while the Shanks/Joyboy application of CoC shows that it can negate DF effects on the source. You also have to think about all of this narratively - what Oda wants to do with it?
Oda wants certain effects to work because it is narratively required for the way he wants the fights to progress.

Imagine DF merchants like Law, Luffy and Kidd fighting Kaido/BM while those two are using complete DF negation bursts like Shanks/Joyboy. They would not win in a million years. Storytelling demands for things to work even tho theoretically they could be negated. The only question's - is Oda doing a good job of making it convincing why they work and mostly the answer is No.

Regarding Imu's abilities, I am convinced this is just another DF, basically Sugar's ability on steroids and we saw its effects being cancelled by Joyboy's haki burst negating the mark of Abyss which is Imu's power. When it comes to countering these regen merchants, it will be just a different application of haki, not a new power-up. Things like that cannot be counted as power-ups because they do not serve a general purpose.

Same with Zoro learning ability to cut fire, that wasnt a power-up, he didnt become stronger, he learned to manipulate haki so he can neutralize fire but when the opponents do NOT use fire, that ability to manipulate haki to counter fire is of no use at all. The same case is with countering regeneration, when opponents do not use regeneration, the ability to manipulate COC to counter regen is of no use whatsoever.

You made an interesting point with emotions being the counters to specific DF abilities and it could really end up that Imu's powers are countered by Love. I theorized that Imu is a Fear God, which is oddly close to Killingham's ability and even Imu's as they are similar and Power of Love could indeed be counter to Fear.

Btw, 5th god is already confirmed since Enies Lobby, the strongest among them all.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

If you mean coutnering his domi reverse, besides haki then I think Tsuru and maybe that drawf who has healing power (forgot her name) have potential df power to reverse their evil

Anyway Sanji will have CoC to fight these guys, or a science power that equals CoC so a win win situation for WANJI

Exactly if Oda goes out of his way to introduce an entirely new power up which makes the supposed strongest power obsolete, Sanji is by far the character most important to Oda.

 

[Cruxroux]

Exactly if Oda goes out of his way to introduce an entirely new power up which makes the supposed strongest power obsolete, Sanji is by far the character most important to Oda.

He already did lmao.
His entire Arsenal is based upon something that no one uses in this verse.

 

[pg13]

Is it a Devil Fruit Ability? Or Imu is entirely different " Being " or a species?

Given that we had seen, 4 confirmed God's existence in one piece World.

• Sun God - Nika
  • Confirmed to be a Devil Fruit Ability
• Rain God - Unknown
  • Unknown Source
• Forest God - Unknown
  • Unknown Source
• Earth god - Unknown
  • Unknown Source

Imu is confirmed to be one of them.

But if it's Devil Fruit ...
Isn't it Kinda busted that only " Advanced Conqueror " is the counter to its abilities?

We have Broken Ability Fruits like

• Perona Fruit Hax - Negative
  • Ussop Countered it Because he was Always Negative.
• Bigmom Fruit Hax - Soul Manipulation
  • Jimbei countered it because He was not " Scared " of Big Mom.
• Sugar Fruit Hax - Human's to toy Conversation
  • No Counter so far if I'm not wrong. A contract can be a way but they would still turn into a toy
• Hancock Fruit Hax - Using Lust to Petrify
  • Even a Vice Admiral countered it with Enough Emotion suppression.

Yet None of their counters is Haki.
It's basic Human Emotion.

We have Awakening Powers that bypass even advanced Conqueror Haki.

• Law - Bypassed Bigmom Defence
• Kidd - Applied the magnetic poles property on Bigmom

So if Imu is an Awakened user, (Assuming he has Devil fruit).

- None of Luffy's Attacks Worked on Gorosei.

Yet Gaban Advanced Conqueror, (I don't think anyone here should have a doubt about Luffy being a Stronger user of Advanced Conqueror Haki), worked.

It has to be a New Conqueror Ability, Devil Fruit Negation.

• Now, I know basic Haki can be used by a Haki Devil Fruit user. (Non-Conqueror Ability)
• More Intensity of it can be used to counter their Hax. (Non-Conqueror Ability)
• For Conqueror Users, there should be one Special Case to counter even Awakening Abilities.

Which I presume is the case with Gaban saying " Be more focused/conscious on how you use your Conqueror ".

Spoiler

Loki seems to have figured out something.

Now Basic doubts from this Theory are.

• Why could Big Mom and Kaidou not resist Awakening Hax?
  • Because they don't have this Ability. Or Advanced Conqueror Property.
  • Their Haki was simply so strong at the base compared to opponents' Non-Awakened Hax to counter it.
  • But even they couldn't counter Awakened Powers.
    • Luffy played around with Kaidou due to his awakening Hax.
    • Law K-room of no sound, worked against Bigmom.
    • Kidd Hax couldn't be countered by Big Mom.

With this advanced conqueror ability, one can avoid hax like

• Sugar - Human to Toy Conversion.
• Perona - Negative
• Bigmom - Soul Pocus
• Hancock - Mero Mero no Mi hax.

Except Sugar, one thing common among other Hax users is:-

• They have other counters as well. Which is related to emotions.
  • Bigmom - Just be brave enough.
  • Perona - being Negative themselves.
  • Hancock - Lust Control

So given this, Imu should have an alternate Counter to his Ability too.

I suspect it to be " Power of Love ". (Assumption) why??

1. Kuma Attacking Saturn (Many will discredit it)
   • It's anime only, I know. But I'm putting all my money on Anime Foreshadowing things before Manga. The first one is Zoro Conqueror Haki. There was no such moment in manga.
   • For Kuma, it's punching Saturn and Saturn is Unable to regenerate immediately. He did regenerate like Sommers after Gaban was taken out of commission. " There was a delay ".
   • Franky specifically mentions He isn't regenerating anymore. And then he does after Kuma goes out of commission.
   • Spoiler

     
   • Vegapunk starts to theorise that the Buccaneers have the inherent ability to use the Power of Love and something in the same line to not lose their conscious mind.
     • Kuma not losing his Mind after Vegapunk using the self-destruction button.
     • Sanji not losing his mind from Germa's experiments.
       • Both Kuma and Sanji had Kindness since they were kids.
2. Sanji using the Power of Love
   • Spoiler

     
3. Garp uses the power of love
   • Spoiler

     
   • Marco's Healing abilities heal everything. Yet, bro was in a bandage on his head, exactly where Garp hit him.
   • Marco was not hurt by any of the Admiral's attacks.
   • Spoiler

     

Think of it yourself.
The power of love is coming back into action in the Egghead and Elbaf arc, where Gorosei and Holyknights are the villains.

Like how Advanced Conqueror came into action with Characters like Kaidou.


Another Example of Devil Fruit Negation with Advanced Conqueror Haki is Shanks pushing Greenbull back to its Base form. I don't think Greenbull did it himself. The same goes for Akainu's reaction to Shanks.


As for Sanji, the Better he utilises the Power of love, the Stronger his Flames will be. Because in Thriller Barks, His Passion is what makes it burn hotter.

Wano Arc gave them a power-up based on what they are good at.
Luffy -> AdCoC and Gear 5
Zoro -> AdCoC and King of Hell
Sanji -> Exoskeleton and Ifrit Jambe

In Wano Increased Speed and Exoskeleton are what made his Flames Go even hotter than Diable Jambe.

Elbaf Arc Power up,
Luffy and Zoro -> DF Negation
Sanji -> Power of Love improvement.

Neither of the three is getting new Power-ups. Just improving what they are already good at.

Luffy and Zoro -> Already has Conqueror Coating, one of the advantage Forms. Now the devil fruit Negation.

Sanji -> Power of Love is what saved him from turning Evil like his brothers. Now, the Further Improvement will come.


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A mix of Sorcery, Conquerors Haki, and the abilities unique to IMU’s being/race. If he’s a devil he has abilities unique to the devil.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

If toei came up with that Kuma part they should be the ones to make up the rest.

 

[kekaro]

Nice write up, just another power for Snaji, beside Weapon fight, Flying, heat, CQC, exo and many more ontop of COC