Future Events Some people believe Sabo should fight Akainu due to having fire powers

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He says while bringing a prototype version of the series where shichibukai didnt even exist, despite their arcs covering 1/3 of the the actual series and a former shichibukai being a straw hat.:kobeha: You know the meaning of "it was supposed to be" ?
yet he said nothing about the admirals and you have nothing but headcanon to say he changed his mind if anything this proves op is more about fighiting shichibukai than it is about fighting admirals
 

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yet he said nothing about the admirals and you have nothing but headcanon to say he changed his mind
But the interview you posted literally show that he changed his mind and One Piece become more than just a story about defeating emperors? :kaidowhat:

if anything this proves op is more about fighiting shichibukai than it is about fighting admirals
it only proves yonkou were the first vilains Oda came up. Robin didnt exist in one of the intial versions of the series, despite her being necessary for the endgame of the current story. One Piece changed a lot. Gotta explain why an admiral had the honor of killing the MC's brother and breaking his spirit (no emperor came close to that in term of impact on the MC outside Shanks) if Oda didnt think of them as important? Seriously man :kaidowhat:
 

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#67
But the interview you posted literally show that he changed his mind and One Piece become more than just a story about defeating emperors? :kaidowhat:

it only proves yonkou were the first vilains Oda came up. Robin didnt exist in one of the intial versions of the series, despite her being necessary for the endgame of the current story. One Piece changed a lot. Gotta explain why an admiral had the honor of killing the MC's brother and breaking his spirit (no emperor came close to that in term of impact on the MC outside Shanks) if Oda didnt think of them as important? Seriously man :kaidowhat:
it says he changed his mind about the number of shichibukai no mention of admirals as enemies at all :wellwell:
 
#68
it says he changed his mind about the number of shichibukai no mention of admirals as enemies at all :wellwell:
why would he talk about admirals when they weren't the subject? This comment came from a a section of the 23nd log specifically dedicated to the shichibukai
On top of that, admirals aren't the reason why the story is so long, as they didnt have over 10 volumes long arcs as big bosses like Shichibukai did as none got defeated yet.

Instead how bringing a hypothetic version of the series, you should look at the existing one. Because even assuming admirals aren't final antagonists, it's clear the series is more than just emperors.
 

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#69
why would he talk about admirals when they weren't the subject? This comment came from a a section of the 23nd log specifically dedicated to the shichibukai
On top of that, admirals aren't the reason why the story is so long, as they didnt have over 10 volumes long arcs as big bosses like Shichibukai did as none got defeated yet.

Instead how bringing a hypothetic version of the series, you should look at the existing one. Because even assuming admirals aren't final antagonists, it's clear the series is more than just emperors.
the yonkos werent the subject either and yet he brought them up
 
#70
the yonkos werent the subject either and yet he brought them up
Because the initial version of the serie that would ended quickly was just about defeating the emperors (hence why he said *supposed to be*) . A version of the series that was planned to last fve years at most.
Now if you seriously want to argue that fighting the WG (admirals or not) isn't important in the version of One Piece we have because of some prototype version of the series and because they weren't mentioned in a comment that was't about them, I won't argue more as we clearly have a different reading of the series. I will just point that the longest arc of the series before Wano was W7/EL.
 

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Because the initial version of the serie that would ended quickly was just about defeating the emperors (hence why he said *supposed to be*) . A version of the series that was planned to last fve years at most.
Now if you seriously want to argue that fighting the WG (admirals or not) isn't important in the version of One Piece we have because of some prototype version of the series and because they weren't mentioned in a comment that was't about them, I won't argue more as we clearly have a different reading of the series. I will just point that the longest arc of the series before Wano was W7/EL.
why are you assuming this one isn't why are you even assuming it's a prototype all he said is that he should have lowered the number of shichibukai he said the same thing with the SNs and here we are
 

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#72
Sabo will have an all out fight with Fujitora, not Akainu. But saying Sabo won't involve in the conflict is wrong. He knows Ace got killed by Akainu so of course he wants to take revenge, but he blames himself for not being in Marineford to save him. When Luffy and Sabo about to confront Akainu, Sabo will leave the job to Luffy because he knows that he's more suitable person that takes revenge for Ace, not Sabo.

For the Sanji part, again, I'm cool with Sanji taking on as much opponents as possible, SSG, Sentomaru, CP0, Admiral(s), blond Gorosei, etc. The more the better merit for Sanji.:king:
 
#73
It's more like Sabo inheriting Ace' will and avenging him. It's like when Burgess got fried by a point blank fire fist. Sabo said: "I wanted to let you go, but it seems like Ace did not forgive you". Others also pointed out that Sabo sounds much like Ace.

Contrary to some people's belief, Luffy has no grudge or vendetta against Akainu. He came to terms with Ace' death; Ace died as a pirate, without any regrets, and Luffy realized he still has his friends to back him up and things he can strive for. That is supplemented by Shanks' speech, who said that it's ok for a man to cry, but he should look forward.

Sure, Luffy's scar was itching when hearing Akainu's name, but this is common theme. Kaido's scar was itching as the Scabbards reminded him of Oden. Shanks' scar itched when he had concern about Blackbeard. Yet Shanks has no interest in fighting him personally, even let him go in Marineford.

And Oda specifically pointed out in the Magma > Fire SBS that one should never base the outcome of the battle on DF superiority because "you never know how the fight sill go".
 
#74
Luffy did more than enough in the marineford battle.

He should've no regrets, Ace should've died on the execution platform in the first place, it was because WB's sickness they failed to save Ace, WB was so weak he even told his men to follow Pre-TS Luffy in the battle instead of following him, that's how weak WB was in marineford, even Crocodile said it openly. In the end it was Ace's choice to sacrifice his life for Luffy.

Sabo literally did nothing in marineford battle, then he ate Ace's DF power. Burgess even made fun of him about sleeping during marineford battle. He has to face with Lakainu to redeem himself for doing nothing in marineford battle.

Plus, Pirate Luffy and Larine Lakainu aren't rivals. This is the thing with Ladmiral fanboys, they think Pirates should fight Larines when its not their job, Pirates rivals other Pirates, not Larines. Pirates like WB or mihawk can retreat against Larines as we see.

Revolutionaries and Ladmirals are rivals. One want to take down Celestial Dragons, the other are directly the underling of Celestial Dragons.

Sabo and Dragon vs. High ranking government officers such as CP0 or Ladmirals should match with each other.

Oda also said having superior DF doesn't make him win the fight in the SBS.

Sabo already has a different fighting style Ryusoken before his DF power, that could be like people thinking Shanks is a swordsman, but Shanks will show that he is stronger than swordsman mihawk. Saying that Sabo has no chance against Lakainu, is no different than saying Shanks has no chance against mihawk, DF powers and swordsmanship are just one aspect of a battle.

Ace mastered his DF ability and with his Haki to an extend that he could hurt even Whitebeard's hand (when WB wasn't sick and can use CoC) and blocked Aokiji's sneak attack with ease even when he was physically nerfed in marinerford battle. He even stopped falling snows in Drum Island without even fighting.

Sabo is what Ace should've been (or was going to be if he grown stronger a little more) if Sabo masters his DF ability like Ace did. Sabo without his Fire Logia, had 602 million bounty, he was already as strong as Ace before getting the fire logia. Ace only lacked the secondary fighting style, such as Sabo's Ryusoken. If his DF power doesn't work, he could use his second ability to win. Sabo will use Ryusoken against Lakainu, his fire logia will only help him in terms of speed and mobility, plus it gives a better resistance to heat.

Sabo has martial art techniques, he is more than a DF fire logia user, thus he can be stronger than a superior DF power user.

Luffy didn't awaken his DF power, but he is stronger than awakened DF users.

Same Ladmiral wankers who think Sabo has no chance against Lakainu, also believes Ladmirals are superior to Yami Blackbeard (without Gura), when Yami Blackbeard has the darkness DF ability to overpower any DF power of the Ladmirals.

If Sabo can't do shit against Lakainu due to DF power, then Ladmirals can't do shit against Yami Blackbeard as well. But they wank Ladmirals and they think Ladmirals are superior to even Yami Blackbeard.

Their hypocrisy has been revealed once again.:goyea:


You mean Akainu caps out at the world's strongest man and pirate? And that's supposed to be a bad thing? Akainu came out of his fight with Whitebeard with superficial damage despite being sneak attacked. He handed him two mortal wounds and went on to bully everybody else in the war.

He can give an extremely tough fight to PK Luffy, PK isn't some magical tier, Roger was asking for Sengoku or Garp, avoided a conflict with Bigmom and failed to beat Whitebeard in 3 days
Saltyvlad will never learn. Stop crying, Marco fought with worse wounds against fresh Lakainu, you still wank Lakainu against nerfed Marco.

As for Sickbeard;




is this your world's strongest man? :gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:





It looks like Pre-TS Luffy is so strong that world's strongest man telling his underlings to follow Pre-TS Luffy instead of following him.

''Strongest man'' wants Pre-TS Luffy's help to win against Larines. :suresure::suresure::suresure:


He was so weak that he needed help from his underlings Marco and Jozu, and even relied on a weakling such as Pre-TS Luffy to win the war against your precious Larines and Ladmirals.

Sure, Luffy's scar was itching when hearing Akainu's name, but this is common theme. .
Wrong.

Bad reading comprehension as usual comrade-chan,

Luffy heard Lakainu's name before his wound itching,

Chapter 650 Page 04 :



Chapter 650 Page 06 :



Then his wound is itching because he learned Lakainu defeated Aokiji (someone Luffy knows and cares about, thus asking him about if he died or not right after this), and become the Fleet Admiral.

If Aokiji won and become the Fleet Admiral, Luffy's wound wouldn't itch, Lakainu needed to defeat another Ladmiral and become the Fleet Admiral to just make Luffy remember his wound, otherwise Luffy doesn't give a shit about Lakainu, of course you and Ladmiral wankers have a bad reading comprehension, thus they take different meanings from this.
 
#76
Lerkan will never accept that Akainu's hype and portrayal shit on Big Meme's.

Sure sure, beta-chan, even Base Linlin was stated to be having Fleet Admiral potential without her DF power.
:gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
I made this little troll cry so much again, lmfao.

What Big mom has anything to do with this thread troll? Do you have PTSDs?

According you desperate Lakainu wankers, Lakainu is the strongest Ladmiral (see the poll Lizaru vs. Lakainu, Lakainu has %69) why compare strongest Ladmiral against the most lowballed Yonko? Compare him to strongest Yonko because he is the most wanked one with Fleet Admiral position, having %69 votes against another Ladmiral.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/akainu-vs-kizaru.1273/

The difference between Big mom and Lizaru are clear from their polls against Lakainu, Big mom vs. Lakainu is closer than Lakainu vs. Lizaru, Big mom is the most lowballed Yonko, definitely not the strongest Yonko, even Big mom is above average Ladmiral level, and Oda already said Kaido > Lakainu in SBS, even Sickbeard two-shotted the strongest Ladmiral Lakainu. There is no discussion that Yonko > Ladmirals generally, the only thing you can find is the strongest Ladmiral Lakainu vs. potentially weakest and most lowballed Yonko, even that's closer than Lakainu vs. Lizaru poll.
 

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#77

Sure sure, beta-chan, even Base Linlin was stated to be having Fleet Admiral potential without her DF power.
:gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
I made this little troll cry so much again, lmfao.

What Big mom has anything to do with this thread troll? Do you have PTSDs?

According you desperate Lakainu wankers, Lakainu is the strongest Ladmiral (see the poll Lizaru vs. Lakainu, Lakainu has %69) why compare strongest Ladmiral against the most lowballed Yonko? Compare him to strongest Yonko because he is the most wanked one with Fleet Admiral position, having %69 votes against another Ladmiral.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/akainu-vs-kizaru.1273/

The difference between Big mom and Lizaru are clear from their polls against Lakainu, Big mom vs. Lakainu is closer than Lakainu vs. Lizaru, Big mom is the most lowballed Yonko, definitely not the strongest Yonko, even Big mom is above average Ladmiral level, and Oda already said Kaido > Lakainu in SBS, even Sickbeard two-shotted the strongest Ladmiral Lakainu. There is no discussion that Yonko > Ladmirals generally, the only thing you can find is the strongest Ladmiral Lakainu vs. potentially weakest and most lowballed Yonko, even that's closer than Lakainu vs. Lizaru poll.
C'mon Erkan deep inside your heart you probably understood how Big Mom is done so dirty by the author on a constant rate she can't be defined as someone on Kaido's level at the moment:goyea:

 
#78
The fire fruit is just a more, the reason for him to fight Akainu is beacuse of he doing nothing to prevent Ace death.


Believe Luffy will fight Akainu, but Sabo will enter the fight and say he can deal with Akainu while Luffy go after the real boss Imu. We have to remember that EoS Luffy will be prime-Roger/WB lvl, he wont be losing time fighting a underling like Akainu.
 
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