Theory Spelling It Out - The Straw Hat Alphabet Pattern

[Drachenblut]

Imo it will be one of them: hiyori,hancock,gyukimaru/onimaru,pudding,pedro,otama,weevil/or someone new

There are many things for hiyori but she must first show her use for the crew (power? Role? Dream/mission? Possibly assisting joyboy 2, which toki wanted to do)

Hancock is another possibility, now that the marines are after her and her island (her role? Dream/mission? Abolishment of the tenryuubitos)

If pudding is in wano, her chance would go up tremendiously (power=memory manipulation, role? maybe something which is connected to her 3rd eye?, dream/mission?)

Gyukimaru/Onimaru was always with shimotsuki ushimaru, if zoro is his son (which highly seems to be the case) he could join (role?, dream/mission?)
If he joins, the strawhats would have a one-sword-user, a three-sword-user and finally a two-sword-user.

Pedro might not be dead, pound didn't die so it highly increases the chances that he didn't die (for me, because as seen, oda does not want to kill of his characters), his power, dream and role(lookout) fit well perfect.

Otama unlikely, as she is too young but if she joins, she would be an apprentice, her power is taming monster and her dream/mission? unclear(besides wanting to adventure)

Weevil is a complete mystery but given his nature (foolish but probably kind) and that only his "mother" is his bond, he will have no one if he understands that he was used.
Furthermore, it was ages ago since he was introduced so at this point his relevance goes down, because we have yonkous and theie commanders as enemies. Sure, he is strong but no way near kaido or bm. He should be around king/queen/jack level, which won't be too high after wano (if zoro/sanji/jimbei defeat them in a 1vs1).
So he could be the last member to join, because after wano, it is highly likely that 2 characters will join at once (or right after one another).
But who knows at this point 🤷‍♂️

 

[Tokiro Oumaga]

Imo it will be one of them: hiyori,hancock,gyukimaru/onimaru,pudding,pedro,otama,weevil/or someone new

There are many things for hiyori but she must first show her use for the crew (power? Role? Dream/mission? Possibly assisting joyboy 2, which toki wanted to do)

Hancock is another possibility, now that the marines are after her and her island (her role? Dream/mission? Abolishment of the tenryuubitos)

If pudding is in wano, her chance would go up tremendiously (power=memory manipulation, role? maybe something which is connected to her 3rd eye?, dream/mission?)

Gyukimaru/Onimaru was always with shimotsuki ushimaru, if zoro is his son (which highly seems to be the case) he could join (role?, dream/mission?)
If he joins, the strawhats would have a one-sword-user, a three-sword-user and finally a two-sword-user.

Pedro might not be dead, pound didn't die so it highly increases the chances that he didn't die (for me, because as seen, oda does not want to kill of his characters), his power, dream and role(lookout) fit well perfect.

Otama unlikely, as she is too young but if she joins, she would be an apprentice, her power is taming monster and her dream/mission? unclear(besides wanting to adventure)

Weevil is a complete mystery but given his nature (foolish but probably kind) and that only his "mother" is his bond, he will have no one if he understands that he was used.
Furthermore, it was ages ago since he was introduced so at this point his relevance goes down, because we have yonkous and theie commanders as enemies. Sure, he is strong but no way near kaido or bm. He should be around king/queen/jack level, which won't be too high after wano (if zoro/sanji/jimbei defeat them in a 1vs1).
So he could be the last member to join, because after wano, it is highly likely that 2 characters will join at once (or right after one another).
But who knows at this point 🤷‍♂️

I can see your point on pretty much all of that, and though I disagree, I'm not going to contend any of those characters' chances.

What I will contend though, are your claims that Pound survived Oven's attack and that Gyukimaru is a dual sword user. Pound might be alive, but the last panel we saw him in, he was about to be killed and then we never saw him again. Knowing Oda, he is alive, but we have no reason to believe that other than Oda's habits. Gyukimaru, though, is most certainly not a dual sword user, he is a spear user. He owns multiple weapons, certainly, but as far as I recall, he has only ever been shown actually using a naginata. I don't think that precludes his chances at all, especially since none of the Straw Hats use spears, but it's inaccurate to call him a sword user, much less a dual sword user.

 

[Dark Hound]

Somehow you use epithets for your 2 input characters while none of the strawhats epithets are being used ?

 

[Kurodiamondo]

I'm starting to get feeling we'll get wx member outside wano arc. A new character

 

[Drachenblut]

I can see your point on pretty much all of that, and though I disagree, I'm not going to contend any of those characters' chances.

What I will contend though, are your claims that Pound survived Oven's attack and that Gyukimaru is a dual sword user. Pound might be alive, but the last panel we saw him in, he was about to be killed and then we never saw him again. Knowing Oda, he is alive, but we have no reason to believe that other than Oda's habits. Gyukimaru, though, is most certainly not a dual sword user, he is a spear user. He owns multiple weapons, certainly, but as far as I recall, he has only ever been shown actually using a naginata. I don't think that precludes his chances at all, especially since none of the Straw Hats use spears, but it's inaccurate to call him a sword user, much less a dual sword user.

Pound: would be a spoiler, so wait for the chapter or look at the spoiler section

As for gyukimaru, idk, i have him as a dual swordsman registered in my head. So i could be wrong 🤷‍♂️

 

[Tokiro Oumaga]

Pound: would be a spoiler, so wait for the chapter or look at the spoiler section

As for gyukimaru, idk, i have him as a dual swordsman registered in my head. So i could be wrong 🤷‍♂️

Please don't assume that people look into leaked chapters before they're translated, I would rather go into them fresh.

 

[Tokiro Oumaga]

Somehow you use epithets for your 2 input characters while none of the strawhats epithets are being used ?

Yes, that was the point. The idea here is that Oda probably knows that we're all wise to the patterns by now, so instead of doing the obvious and going with characters that outright fit the pattern, I theorize that he's obscuring the truth by using characters that technically fit. It's like how Syarley saw a future of Luffy destroying Fishman Island. I am doubtless that it'll come true, but doubtful that it will mean he is an enemy of Fishman Island, and it will come to pass in a way that no one in series expects.

 

[Dark Hound]

Yes, that was the point. The idea here is that Oda probably knows that we're all wise to the patterns by now, so instead of doing the obvious and going with characters that outright fit the pattern, I theorize that he's obscuring the truth by using characters that technically fit. It's like how Syarley saw a future of Luffy destroying Fishman Island. I am doubtless that it'll come true, but doubtful that it will mean he is an enemy of Fishman Island, and it will come to pass in a way that no one in series expects.

It would be too confusing for anyone who read the manga. I was a partisan of that Monet stuff before but I’m positive she’s dead now

 

[Tokiro Oumaga]

It would be too confusing for anyone who read the manga. I was a partisan of that Monet stuff before but I’m positive she’s dead now

I'm not sure I get your point. This pattern is an observation from fans, a piece of trivia for the attentive reader. It has absolutely no bearing on the general audience, so much so that it might not even be true in the first place. What does it matter whether it's confusing when most people won't even notice it in the first place?

 

[Dark Hound]

I'm not sure I get your point. This pattern is an observation from fans, a piece of trivia for the attentive reader. It has absolutely no bearing on the general audience, so much so that it might not even be true in the first place. What does it matter whether it's confusing when most people won't even notice it in the first place?

Well you’re saying Oda is wise to the patterns and would change it to fit Smoker and Monet, why would he be wise to the patterns if they possibly don’t even exist in the first place ? It’s possible they are actually a thing, yes but I don’t think he would change the patterns even if that was the case since most people are oblivious to the whole thing anyway

 

[Tokiro Oumaga]

Well you’re saying Oda is wise to the patterns and would change it to fit Smoker and Monet, why would he be wise to the patterns if they possibly don’t even exist in the first place ? It’s possible they are actually a thing, yes but I don’t think he would change the patterns even if that was the case since most people are oblivious to the whole thing anyway

I think you may be deliberately misinterpreting my words. All of this is purely hypothetical and just fun stuff to think about. If the patterns are real, Oda is likely aware that there are people who know about them, as we know he gets a deluge of fanmail, many of which involve questions about this sort of thing as evidenced by the SBS. If Oda is aware that some of us know, then he may be altering the exact parameters of the pattern to keep people like us on our toes. We, however, are the minority here. Most fans don't know or care about patterns, so there's no real way for people to be confused.

If my theory is correct and epithets are valid for this particular pattern, then the people who insist that it must be given names only will probably just write the Alphabet Pattern as being debunked, while others like myself would accept it as fact because that's the way it lines up. Ultimately though, it doesn't matter either way. Oda will do what he wants, regardless of whether or not the patterns that arose in his story were intentional, and the story will no doubt be satisfactory.

Also, I absolutely did not say that he would change it to fit Smoker. I said that he could, but that I believe he would change it to fit Monet and Carrot.

 

[L o g i a]

Epithets and Sobriquet's don't work for this theory - if they did then there's a couple of clashes and issues with how it pans out. If you use "Harpy" Monet and "White Rabbit" Carrot it has to look like this:
AB =
CD = Cat Burglar Nami, Blackleg Sanji, Cotton Candy Lover Chopper, Devil Child Robin
EF =
GH= Harpy Monet, God Usopp
IJ = Iron Man Franky
KL = Knight of the Sea Jinbe
MN =
OP = Pirate Hunter Zoro
QR =
ST = Strawhat Luffy, Soul King Brook
UV =
WX = White Rabbit Carrot
YZ =

As you can see it just DOESNT WORK

Furthermore, if Luffy is intended as "R"uffy, the whole theory goes down in flames.
I'm a big advocate for this theory and have been for a while BUT that is something you have to bare in mind

Also, please stop clinging to Monet. She's dead. Dead as a dodo. Cadaverifically dead. I like the idea of her coming back, but there's no way to segway her back into the story without it seeming completely out of place for the story

 

[KenshiraSonata]

Three badass characters who I wanted to be nakama fit well with alphabet theory
WX - Wiper
OP - Pedro
GH - Gin

 

[HA001]

G will be gyukimaru the fox
(Could be o for onimaru)
He will follow zoro.

 

[trav]

it works if you use the actual names.
Franky is Cutty Flam and Chopper is Tony. that makes room for Sanji.

CP - Cutty Flam
GT - Tony Tony Chopper
FS - Sanji Vinsmoke

 

[garciajulieen]

Hi Tokiro, I've been following your theories since OJ, I have to admit that I like all of your theories since each of them are well thought and I can see you did a lot of research. That's impressive :)

But I cannot say that I agree with everything on it. In this thread for example, I believe epithet won't work. Sorry for that :(

Gyukimaru/Onimaru fits really well for GH or OP, his role can be the look out, I read an article about fox somewhere and it mentioned that fox is known to be an excellent predator during the night, as their eyes is specially adapted to night vision. And fox also known to climbs trees. So he won't have problem with height.
He might also have a second role as ship guard, as he is known to guard weapons alone for years. As for his dream, is yet to be revealed.

As for WX, this is tricky, I really don't have any clue.

But aside of a look out, another roles that might be crucial for the SH might be a tactician, since they have the grand fleet and they will face the Blackbeard pirates and also the WG, forces that will be really hard to fight without strategies. They need someone very smart to be able to change plan anytime, knowing luffy will definitely destroy the initial plans.
The first person that comes to my mind to be a tactician is Crocodile. He is probably the most cunning villain in the series and he becomes quite friendly with luffy at the end of marineford. But the problem is his name doesn't match the pattern and I think his devil fruit doesn't match the gorowase as well.
Another candidate that fits the pattern would be Gin. We know he did some impressive tactics back then in Don krieg ship.
So if Gin stands for GH then Gyukimaru/Onimaru will fit OP, which means the last slot for WX must be a woman, and again i have no clue for this.

That's just my opinion tho, I know it will most likely wrong :)

 

[Tokiro Oumaga]

Hi Tokiro, I've been following your theories since OJ, I have to admit that I like all of your theories since each of them are well thought and I can see you did a lot of research. That's impressive :)

But I cannot say that I agree with everything on it. In this thread for example, I believe epithet won't work. Sorry for that :(

Haha, no need to be so contrite, friend, you're not obligated to believe my ideas. I'm not even totally confident in this one, it's just an idea I had to resolve a discrepancy between multiple existing theories. Any one of them could be wrong in favor of the other, or they could all be wrong and make the whole thing moot, I just wanted to see if there was a way to make them all work together.

Gyukimaru/Onimaru fits really well for GH or OP, his role can be the look out, I read an article about fox somewhere and it mentioned that fox is known to be an excellent predator during the night, as their eyes is specially adapted to night vision. And fox also known to climbs trees. So he won't have problem with height.
He might also have a second role as ship guard, as he is known to guard weapons alone for years. As for his dream, is yet to be revealed.

I'll level with you, I'm not really sure why Gyukimaru is getting so much support as a candidate. I like the guy fine, and I think his story and concepts are all interesting, but his role so far has been pretty minimal, and there isn't much sign that he's going to be contributing anything else other than his master possibly being related to Zoro. I'm sure he's going to do something else by the end of Wano, but it doesn't look like there are too many gaps in his story to fill to warrant all of the backing like there are in Monet's story.

 

[Fallen Prince]

Hopefully carrot die i dont want an annoying rabbit in the crew.

 

[garciajulieen]

Haha, no need to be so contrite, friend, you're not obligated to believe my ideas. I'm not even totally confident in this one, it's just an idea I had to resolve a discrepancy between multiple existing theories. Any one of them could be wrong in favor of the other, or they could all be wrong and make the whole thing moot, I just wanted to see if there was a way to make them all work together.



I'll level with you, I'm not really sure why Gyukimaru is getting so much support as a candidate. I like the guy fine, and I think his story and concepts are all interesting, but his role so far has been pretty minimal, and there isn't much sign that he's going to be contributing anything else other than his master possibly being related to Zoro. I'm sure he's going to do something else by the end of Wano, but it doesn't look like there are too many gaps in his story to fill to warrant all of the backing like there are in Monet's story.

It's true that Gyukimaru is lacking of contribution. Actually I prefer Pedro for OP, but then it's probably better for chopper to learn electro and develop his fighting skill than having a mink in the ship. His monster point can already represent mink's sulong form in my opinion.

 

[Tokiro Oumaga]

It's true that Gyukimaru is lacking of contribution. Actually I prefer Pedro for OP, but then it's probably better for chopper to learn electro and develop his fighting skill than having a mink in the ship. His monster point can already represent mink's sulong form in my opinion.

I've never considered the possibility of Chopper learning Electro. I've proposed that Luffy could learn it in the past, so now that I think of it, there really isn't anything that would stop Chopper from doing so unless it really is specific to Minks.

I don't really agree that Monster Point and Sulong are equivalent, though I see the comparison of being animal super forms that are physically draining on their users. I think with the addition of flight and the smaller size allowing for maneuverability, Sulong is better for taking out distant enemies quickly. Monster Point, on the other hand, being particularly large and powerful makes it a good close quarters tank, allowing Chopper to take out approaching enemies while defending a point.