General & Others Story Progression as of Late

#1
It just seems so difficult to pinpoint where the current events are heading. We get a few aftermath chapters of Wano then Egghead which is left on a cliff hanger. Then we get updates from around the world where RHPs and BBPs and Sword/Garp are shown in action. Then we get some updates on CG and Revs. Now we are introduced to another powerful group, the Holy Knights.

I have never tried to analyze OP arc/saga progression but I don't think the current one has a precedent. What are your thoughts? Which happens first? Who are the next immediate antagonist/active group/s? Who are the Holy Knights (I think they are powerful fighters of Gorosei's retainer families)?
 
#2
It just seems so difficult to pinpoint where the current events are heading. We get a few aftermath chapters of Wano then Egghead which is left on a cliff hanger. Then we get updates from around the world where RHPs and BBPs and Sword/Garp are shown in action. Then we get some updates on CG and Revs. Now we are introduced to another powerful group, the Holy Knights.

I have never tried to analyze OP arc/saga progression but I don't think the current one has a precedent. What are your thoughts? Which happens first? Who are the next immediate antagonist/active group/s? Who are the Holy Knights (I think they are powerful fighters of Gorosei's retainer families)?
I think the point of all of these updates is to prepare us for the clusterfuck that is about to happen

All of the players we've seen in the last chapters will begin to intertvine soon. Everybody will be on the move basically
 
#3
I think the point of all of these updates is to prepare us for the clusterfuck that is about to happen

All of the players we've seen in the last chapters will begin to intertvine soon. Everybody will be on the move basically
I agree though I also expect that the RHPs and BBPs along with Garp/Sword will be resolved first since they are the ones shown in action while the CG and Revs and WG are sort of more in the background/having discussions relatively.
 
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I have never tried to analyze OP arc/saga progression but I don't think the current one has a precedent. What are your thoughts? Which happens first? Who are the next immediate antagonist/active group/s? Who are the Holy Knights (I think they are powerful fighters of Gorosei's retainer families)?
Yes Egghead is pretty much the first arc with that much of outside events going in between. Of course we have Wano but it was a huge arc and with same or less events going on.

Usually those events happen in the beginning/end of the arc or between arcs(sometimes an arc of it's own like people say about Reverie).

My bet is that the arc is already finished. We will have a small timeskip that will offscreen the Incident of Egghead and maybe already show what happened to Law and Kid or just let us imagine for a while. I also bet that Strawhats got separated once more and we will explore many different islands so yes maybe we could have Luffy/Usopp(maybe both?) on Elbaf which would be a L for me I guess.

I would say that next antagonists are Teach's crew because they showed up at Egghead. And they work separately a lot so would fit Strawhats facing them separately as well and maybe losing because of that.

I think that we will see the outcome of Hachinosu fight first though. And sometime later on the end of Elbaf(?) Arc Luffy will find out about Garp's death and will hurry to reunite to his crew and revenge on Teach's crew maybe allying with Cross Guild and/or Shanks.

Holy Knights are final war material with Revolutionaires we still have to end Yonko Saga, Laugh Tale, One Piece, Ancient Weapons and only then we will get to know Holy Knights(maybe we know/meet one or two before that).
I would guess they are chosen slaves to have special trainament and brain wash.
 
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#9
We are seeing every single faction starting to move.
Imo, we should get back to Egghead before anything major happens between those factions.
Unless he is done with Egghead and we will only read in newspapers about what happened there...
If we do get back to Egghead, Kizaru should have arrived there.

Problem is that even though Kizaru is a light man, he acts slow as shit. It's gonna take another 10 chapters for Kizaru to step foot on Egghead at this point.:pepemotion:
 
#13
Well we can start with the safest guess: Kizaru

1. Imo, Kizaru goes down in Egghead and so do major members of his fleet. Saturn survives the arc and the crew gets away with some of the Punks, CP0, Sentoumaru and Bonney. Either Blackbeard's group or Saturn take the Serephim

2. This leads us to 1 of 3 places: Fullalead (to deal with the whole Koby/Garp scenario unless that carries over somewhere else), some Underworld related arc to find this Burned Scar Man, or more simply Elbaf, because thats where Kid's destination was. Really this is the "big unknown", we dont know where we go after Egghead.

3. Elbaf imo is more self contained and adventure oriented, focusing on resolving the hypothetical Warland conflict, learning about some of the bigger world mysteries (i.e. the Ohara books w/ Vegapunk) and allying with the Giants.

4. The fight for the 4th RP occurs after this. Imo, this is either at or right before Lodestar, leading to the defeat of the burned man (if they are a villain) or Blackbeard (if they are not). Really I think its important at this point for CG to be out of the running as well. Not Mihawk mind you, but Buggy's major role.

5. At this point imo is where Shanks plays his biggest role in the story, unveiling his true goals at or near LT. Imo, I think @ArturCantSpeakJapanese made a great point in another thread that in Japanese, Shanks' wording on obtaining one piece is apparently far more aggressive than Buggy, BM and Kaido's wording about it. This can be seen here:

6. Whether or not Shanks steals One Piece (maybe its his purpose or ulterior motive, but needs Luffy for "something"), this leads us to the Final War. First is the war with the Marines (Akainu etc). Then comes the war with the WG, God Knights, Gorosei, etc. 2 halves of a larger whole.


Tldr:

- Egghead (Kizaru)
- Fullalead/Underworld or just Elbaf (New Villain/Elbaf/Rocks maybe)
- Burned Man arc and/or Lodestar (could be the same) (Burned Man/Blackbeard)
- Laugh Tale (Blackbeard/Shanks)
- Final War (Shanks/Im/Akainu)

Imo, at least 5 major sub arcs (including Egghead) because Kid and Law had destinations before Lodestar.
 
#14
It just seems so difficult to pinpoint where the current events are heading.
This is probably Oda's best writing so far to me. Getting everything involved in a larger picture and doing proper world & character building for other major characters. Instead of focusing on the Strawhats. Rather I think a chapter or two worth of time from Egghead could be cropped down for Oda to bring in other outwards event more.

I'm getting exactly what I asked for, focus on things around the world away from the strawhat crew, and I'm loving Oda delivering them. Now whether I like everything going on is a different thing, but it is MUCH MORE entertaining than just following the strawhats. And this type of arc is a welcomed addition to the typical arc styles.

This type of writing is why Kingdom is my favorite manga of all time, since it branches out and focuses on other major characters for fuck ton of chapters not even giving a glimpse of the MC and his crew.
 
#15
I agree that it does feel chaotic right now with so many plotlines and moving entities; but I also think its cute that Oda believes we are on the edge of our seats for the current events at Egghead.

:milaugh: I mean, who, who gives a fuck about what Yorks next move is? I almost forgot that name, almost :suresure:
i kind of am, considering i think york's plan is body snatching one of the gorosei to literally become a celestial dragon
 
#16
It just seems so difficult to pinpoint where the current events are heading. We get a few aftermath chapters of Wano then Egghead which is left on a cliff hanger. Then we get updates from around the world where RHPs and BBPs and Sword/Garp are shown in action. Then we get some updates on CG and Revs. Now we are introduced to another powerful group, the Holy Knights.

I have never tried to analyze OP arc/saga progression but I don't think the current one has a precedent. What are your thoughts? Which happens first? Who are the next immediate antagonist/active group/s? Who are the Holy Knights (I think they are powerful fighters of Gorosei's retainer families)?
I think the events after the break were a attempt to try and fix the events in arc 3 of wano and put the story back on track. Wano was a gamble by Oda that didn't pay out. The events after wano helped to set the stage for the next arc and a attempt to show the state of all the players (attempt in this case because Oda always tries to introduce new things). After they show what happened at Reverie it will slow down a little and focus on Egghead and then in the next island.
 
#19
It just seems so difficult to pinpoint where the current events are heading. We get a few aftermath chapters of Wano then Egghead which is left on a cliff hanger. Then we get updates from around the world where RHPs and BBPs and Sword/Garp are shown in action. Then we get some updates on CG and Revs. Now we are introduced to another powerful group, the Holy Knights.

I have never tried to analyze OP arc/saga progression but I don't think the current one has a precedent. What are your thoughts? Which happens first? Who are the next immediate antagonist/active group/s? Who are the Holy Knights (I think they are powerful fighters of Gorosei's retainer families)?
Man, the fights ever since Wano were complete garbage sugarcoated by the back and forth.

Shanks vs Kid ends in a one shot.
Teach vs Law offpaneled.
Ryokugyu vs Weevil offpaneled.
RA vs Admirals barely seen in flashback
Seraphim fights were stalling tools
 
#20
Man, the fights ever since Wano were complete garbage sugarcoated by the back and forth.

Shanks vs Kid ends in a one shot.
Teach vs Law offpaneled.
Ryokugyu vs Weevil offpaneled.
RA vs Admirals barely seen in flashback
Seraphim fights were stalling tools
I mean he's damned if he does or doesnt then

- You have one group who wants neverending fights. If he did this, we would be 100+ chapters behind in this story

- You have another that hates when the story drags, which mostly are due to fights and conflicts (Wano's entire fight portion is nearly 80 chapters)

Now the reason he does it is to hide powers and movesets for when they do actually fight. This is also something he's done since the early stages of this manga. He barely showed off how Doflamingo fought before DR for example. Kuma got a 2 chapter fight but in the end, he's not even a villain that needs defeating.

The list goes on and on with this. The only reason we've gotten 5 chapters of plot movement outside of Luffy/Egghead is because he doesnt waste time diving into conflicts with characters he intends to show off later.

Edit: This is also why I heavily doubt Blackbeard fights Shanks in isolation and it meaning anything, because theres no way Oda offscreens the event, yet theres too much to show regarding both characters in relation to Luffy
 
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