"Zoro have a vice captain-like role" doesn't mean that Zoro is a vice captain Lmao.Zoro's role on the ship is a combatant. Not First Mate or Vice Captain or anything like that.If the Strawhats were to have a official VC then Zoro will be the one that will take that role.
"Zoro have a vice captain-like role" doesn't mean that Zoro is a vice captain Lmao.Zoro's role on the ship is a combatant. Not First Mate or Vice Captain or anything like that.If the Strawhats were to have a official VC then Zoro will be the one that will take that role.
All of your head canons literally irrelevant. In the one piece world Zoro is viewed as first mate/right hand man/ vice captain and second in command of the straw hats. By characters like bartomeleo and brouge .
Zoro also imposed him self as the second in command multiple times.
Oda stated that he plays the vice captain role.
All this is enough proof that Zoro is the vice captain.
He was even mistaken as the captain, That was for a reason. Oda wanted us to know that Zoro imposes himself as a commanding person of his crew to others.
Zoro has always been the VC of the straw hats. Or at least thats how he is viewed in the one piece world.
"Zoro have a vice captain-like role" doesn't mean that Zoro is a vice captain Lmao.Zoro's role on the ship is a combatant. Not First Mate or Vice Captain or anything like that.If the Strawhats were to have a official VC then Zoro will be the one that will take that role.
Well the problem is that Zoro in the OP world is considered vice-captain. In the crew he has played this role many times, so actually there isn't much to say, it is clearly Zoro
There is no vice-captain officially, but everyone say it's Zoro (OP characters and databooks), and everyone, even Luffy, have someone to consider right hand, and for Luffy it is clearly Zoro
There is no vice-captain officially, but everyone say it's Zoro (OP characters and databooks), and everyone, even Luffy, have someone to consider right hand, and for Luffy it is clearly Zoro
If the question is "Who in the OP world thinks is the VC?" then Zoro all the way.
If Luffy clearly consider him as his right hand, he should have made him VC but Luffy listens to different SHs at different times. He listened to Jimbei in FI, Zoro in PH, Franky in Dressrosa, Sanji in WCI.
It should be Zoro but Luffy doesn't care nor does the SHs.
If the question is "Who in the OP world thinks is the VC?" then Zoro all the way.
If Luffy clearly consider him as his right hand, he should have made him VC but Luffy listens to different SHs at different times. He listened to Jimbei in FI, Zoro in PH, Franky in Dressrosa, Sanji in WCI.
It should be Zoro but Luffy doesn't care nor does the SHs.
Well when Luffy listens to others it's because there is no Zoro in that moment. Then we can't know if Luffy cares about the VC thing or not, obviously he wouldn't say "you are my vice-captain" but at most he would say right hand, or he simply makes it clear with facts ... And if I have to say my opinion, it always seemed to me that Luffy has a special connection with Zoro, honestly. This is not to say that others are not important to him, quite the contrary. In any case, as I said in previous answers, if the deputy officer exists Oda will probably never say it because he can't, the fandom is too divided. Maybe it's not an important thing, but in the meantime it showed us that in the world of One Piece Zoro is considered VC
There's so much evidence for it, but apparently for some people it's not enough. I mean the only point I can accept is that we don't know if Luffy cares about these hierarchies.
There's so much evidence for it, but apparently for some people it's not enough. I mean the only point I can accept is that we don't know if Luffy cares about these hierarchies.
"Zoro have a vice captain-like role" doesn't mean that Zoro is a vice captain Lmao.Zoro's role on the ship is a combatant. Not First Mate or Vice Captain or anything like that.If the Strawhats were to have a official VC then Zoro will be the one that will take that role.
There's so much evidence for it, but apparently for some people it's not enough. I mean the only point I can accept is that we don't know if Luffy cares about these hierarchies.
True,we don't know this. Everyone says "Luffy doesn't care about hierarchies" but he has never commented on this argument, at most he just can makes it understood, so the only question mark is this
The Straw hats have never officially had a vice captain but the fandom basically accepts Zoro to fill this position.
However is this still true now that Jinbe has officially joined the crew, with his wealth of knowledge and experience and he would be just as good as Zoro if not better at fulfilling the role.
Zoro is only vice captain to fanboys like bartolomeo. The real vice captain is Usopp,
- luffy agrees hes vice captain after he joins
- he self identifies as vice captain in Alabasta,
- luffy trusts him with the straw hat and makes him corner man in Davy back fight,
- fought luffy over the ship and crew because he didn't think the captain respected his nakama enough (real vice captain shit)
- always has his opinion heard and trusted on tactics and plans, he is the brains of the crew in terms of this (chopper, robin, and franky are more specialized in knowledge but usopp knows some of everything and can put it all together. He built the clima tact, he knows the basics of ship building, he's a botanist, he's a lookout, he's a sniper, hes read a lot, etc)
- usopp is luffys best friend. this is minor but it's true and relevant.
- he calms down fights between crewmates and keeps ppl working together
The man is the glue that holds the straw hats together. He's the Rayleigh of the crew and will be a monster on all fronts end of series. People do not like to admit this for some reason because zoro stans think this is zoro piece, but zoro is not a leader. He even knows this and brushes off the suggestion he might have conquerors haki because he's aware of his role.
He's a combatant, the best fighter on Luffys crew and someone who could beat luffy if the circumstances came to it. There is nothing wrong with this. Luffys crew "does things he can't do" and Zoro is there to be the heaviest hitter in the world. His entire goal is just to be the strongest. He doesn't want or need followers or friends and follows luffy because luffy is the Deva to his Asura. Not vice captain material.
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It's like saying Lucky Roux should be Shanks' vice captain. Lucky is there to kill people better than anybody else Shanks has. Benn Beckman is there to make plans.
The only time Luffy has ever discussed the idea of a vice captain was when he agreed on Usopp taking charge of the ship if he ever couldn't fulfill his duties in an early chapter.
Personally, I think that the idea of a vice captain doesn't fit at all in the dynamics of the crew. Luffy is more of a democratic leader and the hierarchy of his group is flat as he understands how every member is equally important. But if I had to choose an official vice captain, I just can't see any other member matching Jinbe's experience.
Also, this may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm pretty sure that Oda was mocking those who defend that Zoro is the actual vice captain when he wrote that Bartolomeo line stating "he's the person recognized (BY ME) as the vice captain...!".
He was stated as Combatant. His vice captain role isn't official and nothing makes it different from Franky driving the ship before Jinbe or Usopp fixing the ship before Franky. Actual vice captains like Beckman are explicitly addressed as such.
There we saw Zoro will overrule when he has to. He gets on himself for occasionally for letting his guard down, but he's always first line in the best interests of the crew. Even when he had nothing against Robin for example, he refused to be won over even though he came to her aid without hesitation.
Usopp is still the only person who risked his life to challenge his captain over the best interests of the crew and the Merry saved their lives because of it. Hell luffy should be the one apologizing
Ok.
Even if you don't want to take it seriously and dont see it as canon.
We still have clear evidence in the manga were Zoro is outright stated to be the right hand and vice captain.
Am not sure what more is needed. Does Oda need to make an intro box that spells out Zoro is vice captain for you to believe or does someone in the SH need to call him vice captain for you to believe.
This also doesnt always work as we have Mihawk for example who was has into box stating he is the wss, there are multiple people in the verse stating he is wss but people still dont believe this.
@True God Moe, what can Oda do that he hasn't done already that will convince you Zoro is vice captain?
Yes lol. When all of your evidence is "random people who don't know them say he's vice captain and the data books say he has a "vice captain LIKE role SOMETIMES" that means he's not vice captain. You know what would make him vice captain? Literally saying it outright like when Luffy agrees that Usopp is vice captain or when Usopp says "as vice captain, I have to take charge" in Alabasta
It's Usopp. What is this fake ass poll
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Zoro is only vice captain to fanboys like bartolomeo. The real vice captain is Usopp,
- luffy agrees hes vice captain after he joins
- he self identifies as vice captain in Alabasta,
- luffy trusts him with the straw hat and makes him corner man in Davy back fight,
- fought luffy over the ship and crew because he didn't think the captain respected his nakama enough (real vice captain shit)
- always has his opinion heard and trusted on tactics and plans, he is the brains of the crew in terms of this (chopper, robin, and franky are more specialized in knowledge but usopp knows some of everything and can put it all together. He built the clima tact, he knows the basics of ship building, he's a botanist, he's a lookout, he's a sniper, hes read a lot, etc)
- usopp is luffys best friend. this is minor but it's true and relevant.
- he calms down fights between crewmates and keeps ppl working together
The man is the glue that holds the straw hats together. He's the Rayleigh of the crew and will be a monster on all fronts end of series. People do not like to admit this for some reason because zoro stans think this is zoro piece, but zoro is not a leader. He even knows this and brushes off the suggestion he might have conquerors haki because he's aware of his role.
He's a combatant, the best fighter on Luffys crew and someone who could beat luffy if the circumstances came to it. There is nothing wrong with this. Luffys crew "does things he can't do" and Zoro is there to be the heaviest hitter in the world. His entire goal is just to be the strongest. He doesn't want or need followers or friends and follows luffy because luffy is the Deva to his Asura. Not vice captain material.
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It's like saying Lucky Roux should be Shanks' vice captain. Lucky is there to kill people better than anybody else Shanks has. Benn Beckman is there to make plans.
Absolutely not. It is not Usopp, not even remotely, neither the VC nor Luffy's best friend . The fact that he calls himself vice-captain has the same significance as when he says he has 8,000 men in his crew or when he lies to Chopper, or when he calls himself captain Usopp. And if he really was the vice-captain, he would never have left the crew on a whim, please... In addition, Usopp does not have the characteristics to be a vice-captain, he has never held this role because he is the kind of cowardly character, but at certain moments he makes brave speeches, but he stops there. Zoro, I have said it 300 times, is the only one who is called vice-captain not only by Bartolomeo, but also by other characters and by the databooks. Bartolomeo is more reliable than you think, he is the number 1 fan of the crew and loves them all, there is a reason if he considers Zoro the vice-captain. That famous scene where Usopp asks Luffy if he could become captain in case something happens to him has no meaning, because Luffy in the next scene decides to give him the role of gunner / sniper. And in any case Usopp never behaved like a vice-captain
Hmmm I wonder what it means when the guy whose lies all come true says he's the vice captain 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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If you think Usopp leaving the crew was on a whim you were super missing the point. It was the most important decision he could have made and if he didn't do it, the Merry would not have come back to save them. That klabautermann stuff was not a dream it was real. Luffy was wrong and didn't trust his crew enough, and Usopp did. They would be dead in the water or in prison if Usopp didn't challenge his captain over what was right for the crew.
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