Powers & Abilities Supreme Grade Blades: the next game changing power up

#1
The major power up of the wano kuni arc was the introduction of ryuo, allowing Luffy and Zoro to get ACoA and then ACoC. This allowed them to fight kaido and ultimately win their fights against Kaido and King respectively.

I believe we will see something similar yet again in the Elbaf arc, however this time the game changing power up will be Supreme Grade Swords.

This power is something deeply important to not only Zoro, but Luffy as well. When we saw the silhoutte of Nika in the Jinbe vs Who's Who fight, he was shown wielding a Spear and a blade. So chances are, Nika used a supreme grade weapon. And of course Zoro, who dreams of being the WSSM would be in need of such a weapon as well.

Furthermore, not only are these weapons important to Luffy and Zoro's character development as Nika and WSSM, they are important for their victory in their battles as well. How else is Zoro going to defeat Mihawk, if not with supreme grade swords of his own? Similarly, how shall Luffy defeat Teach, who has the ability to negate DFs, if he doesn't have some sort of power outside of his DF he can rely on?

As I've said in a previous thread, the only people who have supreme grade weapons are Roger tier pirates. The only confirmed users of these swords are Roger, WB, and Mihawk, with even a powerful swordsman like Oden not having a supreme grade sword. The same Oden who tanked a move that 1 shot a 3 billion berry pirate, that nearly killed Kaido, and who was ranked as one of the top 5 strongest pirates by Kaido. The fact Oden didn't have supreme grade swords proves that these weapons are beyond the scope of the average top tier and its only the greatest of the greatest: Shanks, Mihawk, Roger, WB, Xebec, that wield these blades.

In the battle for One Piece, Luffy and Zoro will have to become the greatest of the greatest, and hence, they will need supreme grade blades. Luffy will take up Nika's spear and dagger, allowing him to defeat Blackbeard who's yami yami no mi awakening will allow him to negate DFs without even making contact. Meanwhile Zoro will blacken his swords, turning enma and wado into supreme grade blades and the sandai kitetsu into a great grade. This will allow him to surpass Mihawk's yoru and become WSSM.

Overall, the process of taming supreme grade blades is likely to be incredibly difficult. No doubt, the spear and dagger of Nika will hold magical properties making them unusable by the average pirate since the days of Joyboy. And we already know how rare black blades are. But in mastering these weapons, Luffy and Zoro will surpass Teach and Mihawk, allowing them to reach the pinnacle of the Pirate world.
 
#5
There's no reason for Luffy to wield a weapon as he never had any training or practice with one ever in his life. At best it'd be decoration, a piece of valuable booty adding to his horde. Otherwise it'd be an asspull that doesn't even make logical sense to do as Luffy doesn't need it, so I'm not gonna entertain this further.

As for supreme grade blades themselves Oda hasn't done a good job of showcasing the differences between the grades other than some arbitrary judgement by unknown arbiters of sword quality. There is no practical difference between a Supreme Grade blade and a regular Grade blade at all. Zoro's Sandai shown no difficulty in cutting some of the thickest skins in the game, and holds up just as well in withstanding such amazing attacks like Hakai just as his Great Glade Blades did. There is no need of Zoro achieving a Supreme Grade blade outside of a miniscule way of displaying Zoro's growth as a fighter. Nothing more, but possibly even less than that.
 
#7
You know, I always found the concept of black blades strange, it’s something more fitting to Yoru, due to her name, and Mihawk is apparently the only person to have one, yet Oda threw a curveball that black blades are created by their user, presumably through coa.
It’s strange because the historical blades weren’t black, but black was associated as a color to war, because, simply put, bloodstains were more difficult to note on black clothes, so I’m curious if Mihawk made a black blade by hunting and killing lots of people, presumably marines, and Zoro will surpass him without having to make a black blade, so that he could, ideologically be different than him, alongside sword strength, you know, the usual muramasa va masamune.
 
#8
The major power up of the wano kuni arc was the introduction of ryuo, allowing Luffy and Zoro to get ACoA and then ACoC. This allowed them to fight kaido and ultimately win their fights against Kaido and King respectively.

I believe we will see something similar yet again in the Elbaf arc, however this time the game changing power up will be Supreme Grade Swords.

This power is something deeply important to not only Zoro, but Luffy as well. When we saw the silhoutte of Nika in the Jinbe vs Who's Who fight, he was shown wielding a Spear and a blade. So chances are, Nika used a supreme grade weapon. And of course Zoro, who dreams of being the WSSM would be in need of such a weapon as well.

Furthermore, not only are these weapons important to Luffy and Zoro's character development as Nika and WSSM, they are important for their victory in their battles as well. How else is Zoro going to defeat Mihawk, if not with supreme grade swords of his own? Similarly, how shall Luffy defeat Teach, who has the ability to negate DFs, if he doesn't have some sort of power outside of his DF he can rely on?

As I've said in a previous thread, the only people who have supreme grade weapons are Roger tier pirates. The only confirmed users of these swords are Roger, WB, and Mihawk, with even a powerful swordsman like Oden not having a supreme grade sword. The same Oden who tanked a move that 1 shot a 3 billion berry pirate, that nearly killed Kaido, and who was ranked as one of the top 5 strongest pirates by Kaido. The fact Oden didn't have supreme grade swords proves that these weapons are beyond the scope of the average top tier and its only the greatest of the greatest: Shanks, Mihawk, Roger, WB, Xebec, that wield these blades.

In the battle for One Piece, Luffy and Zoro will have to become the greatest of the greatest, and hence, they will need supreme grade blades. Luffy will take up Nika's spear and dagger, allowing him to defeat Blackbeard who's yami yami no mi awakening will allow him to negate DFs without even making contact. Meanwhile Zoro will blacken his swords, turning enma and wado into supreme grade blades and the sandai kitetsu into a great grade. This will allow him to surpass Mihawk's yoru and become WSSM.

Overall, the process of taming supreme grade blades is likely to be incredibly difficult. No doubt, the spear and dagger of Nika will hold magical properties making them unusable by the average pirate since the days of Joyboy. And we already know how rare black blades are. But in mastering these weapons, Luffy and Zoro will surpass Teach and Mihawk, allowing them to reach the pinnacle of the Pirate world.
Luffy isn't getting a sword
Luffy surpassed Mihawk since he got adcoc

Stop making up threads
 
#12
The major power up of the wano kuni arc was the introduction of ryuo, allowing Luffy and Zoro to get ACoA and then ACoC. This allowed them to fight kaido and ultimately win their fights against Kaido and King respectively.

I believe we will see something similar yet again in the Elbaf arc, however this time the game changing power up will be Supreme Grade Swords.

This power is something deeply important to not only Zoro, but Luffy as well. When we saw the silhoutte of Nika in the Jinbe vs Who's Who fight, he was shown wielding a Spear and a blade. So chances are, Nika used a supreme grade weapon. And of course Zoro, who dreams of being the WSSM would be in need of such a weapon as well.

Furthermore, not only are these weapons important to Luffy and Zoro's character development as Nika and WSSM, they are important for their victory in their battles as well. How else is Zoro going to defeat Mihawk, if not with supreme grade swords of his own? Similarly, how shall Luffy defeat Teach, who has the ability to negate DFs, if he doesn't have some sort of power outside of his DF he can rely on?

As I've said in a previous thread, the only people who have supreme grade weapons are Roger tier pirates. The only confirmed users of these swords are Roger, WB, and Mihawk, with even a powerful swordsman like Oden not having a supreme grade sword. The same Oden who tanked a move that 1 shot a 3 billion berry pirate, that nearly killed Kaido, and who was ranked as one of the top 5 strongest pirates by Kaido. The fact Oden didn't have supreme grade swords proves that these weapons are beyond the scope of the average top tier and its only the greatest of the greatest: Shanks, Mihawk, Roger, WB, Xebec, that wield these blades.

In the battle for One Piece, Luffy and Zoro will have to become the greatest of the greatest, and hence, they will need supreme grade blades. Luffy will take up Nika's spear and dagger, allowing him to defeat Blackbeard who's yami yami no mi awakening will allow him to negate DFs without even making contact. Meanwhile Zoro will blacken his swords, turning enma and wado into supreme grade blades and the sandai kitetsu into a great grade. This will allow him to surpass Mihawk's yoru and become WSSM.

Overall, the process of taming supreme grade blades is likely to be incredibly difficult. No doubt, the spear and dagger of Nika will hold magical properties making them unusable by the average pirate since the days of Joyboy. And we already know how rare black blades are. But in mastering these weapons, Luffy and Zoro will surpass Teach and Mihawk, allowing them to reach the pinnacle of the Pirate world.
The spear And sword are likely just to symbolize Zoro and Sanji who are connected to those weapons specifically.

The next big power is going to be the Will of D. Luffys not a weapon user and if he ever does use one, it’ll be a pipe like Sabo
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#13
All I want is for Kizaru and Shiryu to have Supreme Grade swords. :finally:
As for Luffy, he will never get the spear and the sword. It is not in his character.
He will not suddenly become a lethal combatant who can end opponents in one hit.

His whole theme is beating them to boredom with countless punches, that wont change.
Regarding Zoro, I think he needs to obtain one Supreme Grade to stand a chance at beating Yoru.
I seriously doubt Blackened Enma/Wado will be capable of beating Yoru.
 
#18
Lmao, but nah. It's not meant to be literal.

Zoro is Luffy's sword. The future WSS. Sanji is Luffy's spear. Zeff talks about how Sanji got the "spear" in him.
Shouldn't he be the shield. Swords and spears have similar roles.

With shields, it embodies how he saves everyone in every arc.

Plus it parallels he fighting Pearl (shields) and Zoro fighting Mihawk (sword) in Baratie.
 
#20
Zoro with 3 black blades would have godly AP.
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The major power up of the wano kuni arc was the introduction of ryuo, allowing Luffy and Zoro to get ACoA and then ACoC. This allowed them to fight kaido and ultimately win their fights against Kaido and King respectively.

I believe we will see something similar yet again in the Elbaf arc, however this time the game changing power up will be Supreme Grade Swords.

This power is something deeply important to not only Zoro, but Luffy as well. When we saw the silhoutte of Nika in the Jinbe vs Who's Who fight, he was shown wielding a Spear and a blade. So chances are, Nika used a supreme grade weapon. And of course Zoro, who dreams of being the WSSM would be in need of such a weapon as well.

Furthermore, not only are these weapons important to Luffy and Zoro's character development as Nika and WSSM, they are important for their victory in their battles as well. How else is Zoro going to defeat Mihawk, if not with supreme grade swords of his own? Similarly, how shall Luffy defeat Teach, who has the ability to negate DFs, if he doesn't have some sort of power outside of his DF he can rely on?

As I've said in a previous thread, the only people who have supreme grade weapons are Roger tier pirates. The only confirmed users of these swords are Roger, WB, and Mihawk, with even a powerful swordsman like Oden not having a supreme grade sword. The same Oden who tanked a move that 1 shot a 3 billion berry pirate, that nearly killed Kaido, and who was ranked as one of the top 5 strongest pirates by Kaido. The fact Oden didn't have supreme grade swords proves that these weapons are beyond the scope of the average top tier and its only the greatest of the greatest: Shanks, Mihawk, Roger, WB, Xebec, that wield these blades.

In the battle for One Piece, Luffy and Zoro will have to become the greatest of the greatest, and hence, they will need supreme grade blades. Luffy will take up Nika's spear and dagger, allowing him to defeat Blackbeard who's yami yami no mi awakening will allow him to negate DFs without even making contact. Meanwhile Zoro will blacken his swords, turning enma and wado into supreme grade blades and the sandai kitetsu into a great grade. This will allow him to surpass Mihawk's yoru and become WSSM.

Overall, the process of taming supreme grade blades is likely to be incredibly difficult. No doubt, the spear and dagger of Nika will hold magical properties making them unusable by the average pirate since the days of Joyboy. And we already know how rare black blades are. But in mastering these weapons, Luffy and Zoro will surpass Teach and Mihawk, allowing them to reach the pinnacle of the Pirate world.
Luffy should get a club,because he used to fight with one when he was a kid.Like Sabo does.
 
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