Current Events Surprise Epiphany about Shanks and Blackbeard in the race for Laughtale/One Piece

[Tejas]

Shanks and Teach already have a Poneglyph or Rubbing each.

Teach:

1st Poneglyph

2nd and 3rd :
Now Teach is going to get two more from Law

And has means of Deciphering

And surprise for those who say that Law or Pudding won't cooperate

Shanks :

1st Poneglyph

This Poneglyph was once in Fishman island as we say from Roger journey


Now for those who are saying, Vira or

Fullalead:
Fullalead makes no sense since Teach already gas the Rubbing from his visit to FI with WB

Vira:
Not possible because it was under WG direct or indirect control in Paradise

Sbs volume 25
Reader: Where is Villa? In Vol. 11, it's having a "coup d'état", in chapter 228 it's a "merry town". What's going on?

Oda: Oh. Well spotted. 400 years ago when Noland visited it, Villa was indeed just a merry town, but these days it's a violent and dangerous country in the midst of a coup d'état (rebellion). But it's not really so much what's happening in Villa, as what's happening all around the world at this time. I think you'll discover what I mean in the near future. Not as large as Alabasta, it's just a small country in the Grand Line.

So hold off on your sightseeing trips.

Villa or Vira is in Paradise. This negates the possibility that it has the 4th Road Poneglyph because shipping of Road Poneglyph from Fishman Island to Paradise is logistically impossible due to Marines controlling Shabondy Archipelago and Most of Paradise


2nd and 3rd Poneglyph :

Shanks is going to get these from Kid

And has means of Deciphering

So Shanks and Blackbeard are not behind Luffy as each of them have 3 Road Poneglyphs and a means of Deciphering. Same like SH crew has Zou, WCI and Wano Road Poneglyphs and Robin for Deciphering.

Level playing field

Scorecard:

Luffy:

Road Poneglyphs - 3 Zou, WCI and Wano
Deciphering method - Robin

Shanks:

Road Poneglyphs - 3, 1 4th Road Poneglyph in Elbaf + 2 From Kid(WCI and Wano)
Deciphering method - Ohara library in Elbaf managed by Jaguar D Saul

Teach:

Road Poneglyphs- 3, 1 4th Road Poneglyph rubbing from Fishman island + 2 From Law(Zou and Wano)
Deciphering method - Pudding hypnotized by Lafitte


Level playing field between 3 candidates.


Questions are welcome.
I will be glad to clarify any of your doubts

 

[Kerkovian]

Great thread and observation bro. Rare in this forum. Well done.

 

[GUI VI]

Makes sense

 

[Tejas]

Great thread and observation bro. Rare in this forum. Well done.

Thank you bro

 

[vikas]

Sad that there was never any race for Phoneglyph to begin with...Nor is the missing phoneglyph any more relavant than the three known.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Interesting read bro

 

[Garp the Fist]

I think it’s more likely that Blackbeard‘s crew stole a copy from WCI when they kidnapped Pudding than him having the FI one (which is now on Wano, having been taken by Saul).

But yeah, once Shanks/Blackbeard get theirs they’ll be level with Luffy.

Elbaf: Only Shanks
Wano: All three have a copy.
WCI: All three have a copy.
Zou: Luffy and Blackbeard.

 

[Tejas]

Interesting read bro

Thank you bro

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Sad that there was never any race for Phoneglyph to begin with...Nor is the missing phoneglyph any more relavant than the three known.

It ha begun to be relevant with the latest developments

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Villa or Vira is in Paradise.

Where did you get this from? Oda only said it's in Grand Line.

 

[vikas]

It ha begun to be relevant with the latest developments

I don't think it will be relevant. Like there won't be any efforts added in story telling to get to the last phoneglyph....They will just get it through events....like how Kid and Law got theirs.... I mean no one talks about finding it anyway.

 

[Tejas]

Where did you get this from? Oda only said it's in Grand Line.

Three things.
1. Vira faced a Coup engineered by Revolutionary Army and successfully dethroned the existing government. It is impossible to have happened if it were in New World without fighting the Yonko and making big news.

2. Read the bottom panel

Clear skies and merry town. Not something you witness in New World. Not to mention encountering merchants in the next page

3. Yellow Databook says it's in the Paradise

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

1. Vira faced a Coup engineered by Revolutionary Army and successfully dethroned the existing government. It is impossible to have happened if it were in New World without fighting the Yonko and making big news.

Unless it was a Dressrosa or Lulusia-like place, which was in the New World and wasn't under Emperor's control. Some islands aren't even under an emperor nor the Government, such as Broc Coli seemed to be (since there was a long war happening there that required mercenaries to be stopped).

You don't know whether it made big news or not.

Clear skies and merry town. Not something you witness in New World.

Again, Dressrosa and Lulusia are pretty much like this. Also, it's not like we've seen tons of islands in the New World for you to assume "clear skies and merry town" isn't something possible there (which actually seems to be).

3. Yellow Databook says it's in the Paradise

Does it? The only mention I can find to its location is that it's in Grand Line, not Paradise.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Great thread.

I'm interested to find out if Shanks already knows how to reach Laugh Tale, and was waiting for certain events to happen before going there, rather than needing Poneglyphs. Shanks isn't Luffy, there's a good chance he asked Rayleigh, "hey, so, how'd you guys get to Laugh Tale???" and knows everything.

 

[Tejas]

Unless it was a Dressrosa or Lulusia-like place, which was in the New World and wasn't under Emperor's control. Some islands aren't even under an emperor nor the Government, such as Broc Coli seemed to be (since there was a long war happening there that required mercenaries to be stopped).

You don't know whether it made big news or not.



Again, Dressrosa and Lulusia are pretty much like this. Also, it's not like we've seen tons of islands in the New World for you to assume "clear skies and merry town" isn't something possible there (which actually seems to be).



Does it? The only mention I can find to its location is that it's in Grand Line, not Paradise.

Dressrosa under Kaido through Doflamingo
Lulusia near Marine Base G2
Broccoli under BM

That and if we know Vira coup made news, if it caused Rev Army vs Yonko, it would have made news as well

 

[Rivaille]

Great thread :cheers:

So I guess Cross Guild was created to upset all this. I fan see Cross Guid having the same role as BB pre-Timeskip.

If all this is deal with good writting, Oda could really deliver with « The battle royale ».

What will be really interesting now is that either BB or Shanks lose

 

[Tejas]

Great thread :cheers:

So I guess Cross Guild was created to upset all this. I fan see Cross Guid having the same role as BB pre-Timeskip.

If all this is deal with good writting, Oda could really deliver with « The battle royale ».

What will be really interesting now is that either BB or Shanks lose

Considering Buggy being damn Lucky, he could briefly become PK as well

 

[Lor D. Coast]

So Law is going to be brainwashed by Laffitte and join the BBP? Zoro easily beats his ass before taking on Whiryu, problem solved.

 

[Blazing Lion]

If what you are saying is true with regards to the first poneglyph (or the one that the SHPs don't have) then shouldn't BB get all 4 when he beats Law.
With no BM to defend and Aokiji going to WCI and kidnapping Pudding, it seems very likely that BB also took BM's RP rubbing.
BB first got the missing RP thanks to being part of WB crew, then he gets the WCI RP and now he can get the remaining two of Zou and Wano via Law.
Good thing bringing out that three island thing hosting the last RP.

 

[Tejas]

If what you are saying is true with regards to the first poneglyph (or the one that the SHPs don't have) then shouldn't BB get all 4 when he beats Law.
With no BM to defend and Aokiji going to WCI and kidnapping Pudding, it seems very likely that BB also took BM's RP rubbing.
BB first got the missing RP thanks to being part of WB crew, then he gets the WCI RP and now he can get the remaining two of Zou and Wano via Law.
Good thing bringing out that three island thing hosting the last RP.

Bb does not have WCI RP since it was just Augur and Kuzan doing a brief hit job capturing Pudding and not a large scale invasion to get The RP located in the heart of Totland.

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So Law is going to be brainwashed by Laffitte and join the BBP? Zoro easily beats his ass before taking on Whiryu, problem solved.

Not Law.
Law's crew Hypnotized to reveal the info where Rubbing kept.
Pudding gets Hypnotized to Decipher.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Good thread.There's nothing I can add more.