Controversial Teach is 1000x better final villain than Imu

[Herrera95]

The title doesn't exist. The title pk was created be because of Roger adventure. Now anyone can be pk if they make it to laughtale first. You are trying to do semantics when clearly if Roger never existed then the pk title wouldn't. It's based off Roger having a great advantage conquered the grandline. Roger created the title through his adventure. Morgan's named it but it's based off of Roger achievement. You tell me how pk would be made without Roger genius.

The Pirate King is about what Roger accomplished not himself. If other than Roger did the same thing he would be Pirate King. And really dude all that Roger did was visit ALL islands of the world (and is still uncertain how people learned about Laugh Tale and how he didn't got that title before).

And the next Pirate King is also uncertain about who goes to Laugh Talr or who finds the One Piece(that may be not there).

 

[Robin swan]

The Pirate King is about what Roger accomplished not himself. If other than Roger did the same thing he would be Pirate King. And really dude all that Roger did was visit ALL islands of the world (and is still uncertain how people learned about Laugh Tale and how he didn't got that title before).

And the next Pirate King is also uncertain about who goes to Laugh Talr or who finds the One Piece(that may be not there).

No but Roger did it so Roger created the title. Bb wants to be pk not sneak up on imu.

 

[Herrera95]

No but Roger did it so Roger created the title. Bb wants to be pk not sneak up on imu.

Manga denier

 

[Robin swan]

Manga denier

So who made the journey to create the pk title? If you say Roger than he is the creator of it as without him it doesn't exist. So you show me who's the manga denier?

 

[Herrera95]

So who made the journey to create the pk title? If you say Roger than he is the creator of it as without him it doesn't exist. So you show me who's the manga denier?

The creator is Morgans dude. Is a made up title by him. Roger never called himself that shit.

 

[Robin swan]

The creator is Morgans dude. Is a made up title by him. Roger never called himself that shit.

That isn't what I asked. who made the journey to create the pk title?

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Facts. Teach is the anti-Luffy. Imu is lame so far and unrelated to Luffy. So far he seems more connected to Sabo than to Luffy.

 

[Herrera95]

That isn't what I asked. who made the journey to create the pk title?

There was no journey dude. Morgan had the idea of the title. There is no creation of Pirate King. Is just how he called Roger to sell his paper.

 

[Robin swan]

There was no journey dude. Morgan had the idea of the title. There is no creation of Pirate King. Is just how he called Roger to sell his paper.

Manga denier. So how hoes the pk title exist? Are you says Morgans pulled it out of thin air and everybody wanted to chase it.

 

[Herrera95]

Manga denier. So how hoes the pk title exist? Are you says Morgans pulled it out of thin air and everybody wanted to chase it.

To be honest Luffy is the only we know that truly wants the title. All others just wants the treasure because they think they will be rich or powerful with it.

 

[Robin swan]

To be honest Luffy is the only we know that truly wants the title. All others just wants the treasure because they think they will be rich or powerful with it.

If that's what you believe

 

[Herrera95]

If that's what you believe

I don't believe in anything. I just read the manga. You should try.

 

[Erkan12]

I said he wants both but wants to be pk first. As pk he wants to take over the world. Pk is his main goal. Taking over the world is is secondary goal because he cannot do it till he becomes pk.

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The other guy is saying bb will just say f being pk and will just sneak up up on imu and beat him. That wouldn't make bb the ruler of the world and 99.9% of the wg is still there and bb isn't just gonna drop his dream of being pk.

Lmao. There is no difference for Teach.

Being PK = conquering world for him.

For Luffy being PK = not conquering world.

So what they think about PK is different.

 

[Robin swan]

I don't believe in anything. I just read the manga. You should try.

If that's what you believe

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Lmao. There is no difference for Teach.

Being PK = conquering world for him.

For Luffy being PK = not conquering world.

So what they think about PK is different.

No it's not the same otherwise he'd just say he wants to be pk. Him becoming help facilitate conqueror the world. Otherwise why would he both with becoming pk and not just build his power as much as possible to try and take over the world.

 

[Erkan12]

No it's not the same otherwise he'd just say he wants to be pk. Him becoming help facilitate conqueror the world. Otherwise why would he both with becoming pk and not just build his power as much as possible to try and take over the world.

Its not that difficult:

Teach thinks he needs to conquer the world to be the PK. So its basically the same thing for him. Its not for Luffy. Luffy thinks about being PK is freest man.

Their views about PK title is different, so their battle might not even for being PK, it could be for conquering the world or stopping Teach from conquering world.

Teach made his move to make his pirate island official government island, so he can be partners with world government again like Warlord but to a much higher degree since having a seat in Levely > being Warlord in Government.

He attacks Revolutionary Army and doesn't let Marines to take Boa Hancock's ability, then sends Devon to copy Saturn, so they would have an access to Government territory and Pacifistas.

These are things that Roger or Luffy doesn't do for being PK.

Teach isn't just searching Ponegliffs, he is doing some different things related to government like trying to be allies and have their powers, thats Teach's difference with other pirates in One Piece race.

 

[Robin swan]

Its not that difficult:

Teach thinks he needs to conquer the world to be the PK. So its basically the same thing for him. Its not for Luffy. Luffy thinks about being PK is freest man.

Their views about PK title is different, so their battle might not even for being PK, it could be for conquering the world or stopping Teach from conquering world.

Teach made his move to make his pirate island official government island, so he can be partners with world government again like Warlord but to a much higher degree since having a seat in Levely > being Warlord in Government.

He attacks Revolutionary Army and doesn't let Marines to take Boa Hancock's ability, then sends Devon to copy Saturn, so they would have an access to Government territory and Pacifistas.

These are things that Roger or Luffy doesn't do for being PK.

Teach isn't just searching Ponegliffs, he is doing some different things related to government like trying to be allies and have their powers, thats Teach's difference with other pirates in One Piece race.

Bb clearly separates them meaning they are 2 different goals of hus. He wants to be pk then he wants to conquer the world. As pk he wants to take over the world not because he's pk he can take over the world.

Luffy nor roger were schemers but like going on adventures and making friends. Kaido had a full on arms factory, was trying to make df, and had under world alliances which have nothing to do with pk. His secondary goal was to start a huge war which those were for. Bm had a bunch of political marriages, plenty of children, and had a huge information network which had nothing to do with being pk. She had that because she was lookfor ways to make everyone the same size which was her secondary goal to becoming pk. Bb secondary goal is ruling the world his primary goal is pk. That's why he went personally to get the poneglph scrubbings and not with Devon to make sure she copied saturn. His main focus is becoming pk after he wants to rule the world.

 

[Erkan12]

Bb clearly separates them meaning they are 2 different goals of hus. He wants to be pk then he wants to conquer the world. As pk he wants to take over the world not because he's pk he can take over the world.

Luffy nor roger were schemers but like going on adventures and making friends. Kaido had a full on arms factory, was trying to make df, and had under world alliances which have nothing to do with pk. His secondary goal was to start a huge war which those were for. Bm had a bunch of political marriages, plenty of children, and had a huge information network which had nothing to do with being pk. She had that because she was lookfor ways to make everyone the same size which was her secondary goal to becoming pk. Bb secondary goal is ruling the world his primary goal is pk. That's why he went personally to get the poneglph scrubbings and not with Devon to make sure she copied saturn. His main focus is becoming pk after he wants to rule the world.

''Conquer the world''

Where exactly he says conquering world is 2nd? Its same for him. Lmao you make up things here.

He ''personally'' captured 800 Marines and Koby for being allies with Government as well as his goal is to conquer world, he did by himself that too.

If conquering world was 2nd he wouldn't bother with trying to make his island official by kidnapping Marines or copy Saturn before finding Laugh Tale. That debunks your argument, he shouldn't be focusing that before being PK but he does it.

It would be much easier to be PK if he controls Government first.

If he becomes PK before being King of the World, then he would turn into a huge target, not just other Pirates goes after him, the Government would focus on Teach and forgets about other pirates in that moment.

But if he conquers World and becomes King of the World, then his enemies will be much less when he becomes PK.

The smart thing would be trying to conquer world and king of world first.

But since Luffy and Roger are not pirates like that, they don't care about it if its smart or not. But Teach is smart and can go for King of World first.

As for going after Law, of course he will need the Ponegliffs soon, why miss the opportunity lmao.

 

[Robin swan]

''Conquer the world''

Where exactly he says conquering world is 2nd? Its same for him. Lmao you make up things here.

He ''personally'' captured 800 Marines and Koby for being allies with Government as well as his goal is to conquer world, he did by himself that too.

If conquering world was 2nd he wouldn't bother with trying to make his island official by kidnapping Marines or copy Saturn before finding Laugh Tale. That debunks your argument, he shouldn't be focusing that before being PK but he does it.

It would be much easier to be PK if he controls Government first.

If he becomes PK before being King of the World, then he would turn into a huge target, not just other Pirates goes after him, the Government would focus on Teach and forgets about other pirates in that moment.

But if he conquers World and becomes King of the World, then his enemies will be much less when he becomes PK.

The smart thing would be trying to conquer world and king of world first.

But since Luffy and Roger are not pirates like that, they don't care about it if its smart or not. But Teach is smart and can go for King of World first.

As for going after Law, of course he will need the Ponegliffs soon, why miss the opportunity lmao.

1. First do you acknowledge they are 2 separate goals and not 1 in the same?

2. These were events back to back where bb could choose where he wanted to go. Capturing coby has no other parallel at the time to also chasing a pk goal. Bb chose to go wait out to catch luffy kidd or law he didn't chose to go chase the gorosei. Bb actions show he values getting the Maki g sure he got the poneglyph scrubbing over making sure a gorosei was copied.

3. Becoming pk is his dream which he eas ready to give up on if he didn't find the yami. If bb tries to take over the wg He have to let someone else be pk. It's a 3 man race between shanks bb and luffy. If he's going to try to go for taking over the woje has to let someone else be pk. He can't do both at the same time. So you are saying he'd give up his dream to just fight the wg for no reason. No he'd go fight for pk before he tried taking on the wg. Both lufgy and shanks don't like bb. If either win pk he'd be fighting on 2 fronts against luffy or shanks as pk and against the wg. I don't care how big a bb fan you are you can't think bb can win this or he's dumb enough to even try.

4. If he does control the wg it wouldn't be for long as people would start seeing the change in saturn and why there are now suddenly 2 Saturn's. For bb to conquer the world he'd have to destroy the wg not try to control it.

5. Bb is smart which is why he wouldn't set himself up to be fighting on 2 fronts. Bb isn't winning where he has to fight luffy and imu on 2 different sides. Coping saturn does have big influence but the second they starts seeing him act differently then the scam is off. Just coping saturn doesn't mean he already has a wg dead to rights and they can easily still beat bb. Becoming pk would particularly gain most pirates respect and he could control most of the pirates as pk to try and challenge the wg. This isn't to mention what he actually finds on laughtale which could also be a huge help to him.

 

[Erkan12]

1. First do you acknowledge they are 2 separate goals and not 1 in the same?

2. These were events back to back where bb could choose where he wanted to go. Capturing coby has no other parallel at the time to also chasing a pk goal. Bb chose to go wait out to catch luffy kidd or law he didn't chose to go chase the gorosei. Bb actions show he values getting the Maki g sure he got the poneglyph scrubbing over making sure a gorosei was copied.

3. Becoming pk is his dream which he eas ready to give up on if he didn't find the yami. If bb tries to take over the wg He have to let someone else be pk. It's a 3 man race between shanks bb and luffy. If he's going to try to go for taking over the woje has to let someone else be pk. He can't do both at the same time. So you are saying he'd give up his dream to just fight the wg for no reason. No he'd go fight for pk before he tried taking on the wg. Both lufgy and shanks don't like bb. If either win pk he'd be fighting on 2 fronts against luffy or shanks as pk and against the wg. I don't care how big a bb fan you are you can't think bb can win this or he's dumb enough to even try.

4. If he does control the wg it wouldn't be for long as people would start seeing the change in saturn and why there are now suddenly 2 Saturn's. For bb to conquer the world he'd have to destroy the wg not try to control it.

5. Bb is smart which is why he wouldn't set himself up to be fighting on 2 fronts. Bb isn't winning where he has to fight luffy and imu on 2 different sides. Coping saturn does have big influence but the second they starts seeing him act differently then the scam is off. Just coping saturn doesn't mean he already has a wg dead to rights and they can easily still beat bb. Becoming pk would particularly gain most pirates respect and he could control most of the pirates as pk to try and challenge the wg. This isn't to mention what he actually finds on laughtale which could also be a huge help to him.

You make up things again LMAO, exactly where they said this shit in the manga;

''Becoming pk would particularly gain most pirates respect and he could control most of the pirates as pk to try and challenge the wg.''

''Thanks to that title (PK), the whole world (includes other pirates) is after us''

The first thing happened to Roger is that the more Pirates started to go after Roger as they should, since taking down the PK is a bigger accomplishment than taking down other Great Pirates.

Being PK is the opposite of what you think, even more Pirates will go after you.

Roger could never rule those Pirates lmao.

I don't where this retarded myth ''if you become pk you can control other pirates'' came from, lmao.

Thats saying like Mihawk can control other Swordsmen just because he is WGS, and he shouldn't be challenged by other swordsmen? Thats simply the dumbest shit, thats the exact opposite.

Luffy being PK will just make things harder for him as other pirates will attack him more.

So thats why Oda saying One Piece will end once its found makes sense. Government should fall before being PK.

Teach's ships name is Saber of Xebec, not Saber of Roger.

Xebec's goal was to king of the world.

If Teach becomes PK first that would just make things more difficult for him to become King of the World.

If someone wants to be both King of the World and PK, then King of the World should be first.

Because being PK means the whole world (includes pirates) will attack, and that makes it almost impossible to be king of the world after that point.

Its that simple.

 

[Robin swan]

You make up things again LMAO, exactly where they said this shit in the manga;

''Becoming pk would particularly gain most pirates respect and he could control most of the pirates as pk to try and challenge the wg.''

''Thanks to that title (PK), the whole world (includes other pirates) is after us''

The first thing happened to Roger is that the more Pirates started to go after Roger as they should, since taking down the PK is a bigger accomplishment than taking down other Great Pirates.

Being PK is the opposite of what you think, even more Pirates will go after you.

Roger could never rule those Pirates lmao.

I don't where this retarded myth ''if you become pk you can control other pirates'' came from, lmao.

Thats saying like Mihawk can control other Swordsmen just because he is WGS, and he shouldn't be challenged by other swordsmen? Thats simply the dumbest shit, thats the exact opposite.

Luffy being PK will just make things harder for him as other pirates will attack him more.

So thats why Oda saying One Piece will end once its found makes sense. Government should fall before being PK.

Teach's ships name is Saber of Xebec, not Saber of Roger.

Xebec's goal was to king of the world.

If Teach becomes PK first that would just make things more difficult for him to become King of the World.

If someone wants to be both King of the World and PK, then King of the World should be first.

Because being PK means the whole world (includes pirates) will attack, and that makes it almost impossible to be king of the world after that point.

Its that simple.

Roger didn't have a empire and only had 30 ish members with most of those not even being noteworthy. Nobody goes after yonko but hot heads and they die without even seeing the yonko. If bb is pk Nobody going to think they can beat him beat that meant he over came 3 other empires and won. He can gather most pirates under him with the prospect of gamining more power and wealth as pk. Just like once luffy becomes pk theres not going to be a pirates going after him because he'll have allies all over the world and have a vast empire.

Why would bb even want to be pk if it means he gets attacked by everyone? Even if he does take over the wg according to you that means all the pirates will still attack him.

At this point if yall believe bb goes and takes over wg go ahead.