Is jinbe gonna witness greatness soon?


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I think Oda can easily justify blackening Enma before Wado since Enma is hypersensitive to Haki and has a greedier, more explosive nature. Blackening Enma is also more relevant to the Wano storyline of opening up the borders. An outsider achieving what Oden could not would be the perfect reason to get rid of the stupid policy so strong travellers like Ace and WB can come and go freely. It also helps that blackening Enma will certainly get Momo, Hiyori and Tengu’s tick of approval as the future ruling class/leading swordsmith of Wano.
 
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I think Oda can easily justify blackening Enma before Wado since Enma is hypersensitive to Haki and has a greedier, more explosive nature. Blackening Enma is also more relevant to the Wano storyline of opening up the borders. An outsider achieving what Oden could not would be the perfect reason to get rid of the stupid policy so strong travellers like Ace and WB can come and go freely. It also helps that blackening Enma will certainly get Momo, Hiyori and Tengu’s tick of approval as the future ruling class/leading swordsmith of Wano.
at the same time it would also call into question why oden had it for many years and was not able to do it .
I really think a black blade belongs to those who have reached the pinnacle of swordsmanship . if zoro can do it now/end of wano, it gives more ammunition to those who believe black blades are not power related as well as those who see mihawk/ryuma's achievements as nothing special.
The point where zoro makes a black blade should be a point where he is just about equal to his prime. I think he still has some significant growth after wano though. of course specific powers have been slightly explained, without said characters unlocking them within the same arc.
doffy explains awakening slightly, katakuri expands on it, luffy is yet to awaken his fruit but it seems like he might soon.
 
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at the same time it would also call into question why oden had it for many years and was not able to do it .
I really think a black blade belongs to those who have reached the pinnacle of swordsmanship . if zoro can do it now/end of wano, it gives more ammunition to those who believe black blades are not power related as well as those who see mihawk/ryuma's achievements as nothing special.
The point where zoro makes a black blade should be a point where he is just about equal to his prime. I think he still has some significant growth after wano though. of course specific powers have been slightly explained, without said characters unlocking them within the same arc.
doffy explains awakening slightly, katakuri expands on it, luffy is yet to awaken his fruit but it seems like he might soon.
It could be that Zoro is a CoA savant and that’s why he will blacken Enma when Oden couldn’t. As in his COA is earth shatteringly strong but his other stats suffer because of it. This does fit with his single minded, battle oriented personality. Zoro is still lacking in mobility (needed Orlumbus to help him cover large distance quickly) and power means little if you can’t hit your opponent (development of COO and FS counter).

Personally I think blackening a blade is a combination of extreme CoA prowess and affinity with one’s sword. Zoro has previously described Sandai as a ‘problem child’ suggesting that they might not be as compatible. Enma on the other hand obeyed Zoro almost immediately and Zoro inherited Kuina’s will (Wado). If he loses Sandai against King he may get Shusui back as the third blade and proceed to EOS carrying Kuina, Ryuma and Oden’s will to face Mihawk.
 
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It could be that Zoro is a CoA savant and that’s why he will blacken Enma when Oden couldn’t. As in his COA is earth shatteringly strong but his other stats suffer because of it. This does fit with his single minded, battle oriented personality. Zoro is still lacking in mobility (needed Orlumbus to help him cover large distance quickly) and power means little if you can’t hit your opponent (development of COO and FS counter).

Personally I think blackening a blade is a combination of extreme CoA prowess and affinity with one’s sword. Zoro has previously described Sandai as a ‘problem child’ suggesting that they might not be as compatible. Enma on the other hand obeyed Zoro almost immediately and Zoro inherited Kuina’s will (Wado). If he loses Sandai against King he may get Shusui back as the third blade and proceed to EOS carrying Kuina, Ryuma and Oden’s will to face Mihawk.
The weird thing about that is
if a black blade is a tell sign of a great degree of armament which it seems to be.
mihawk has one as well as a very solid control of coo as his name seems to suggest. it would seem he is more of a "hakiman" than the fandom initially thought. it would also imply that zoro would have to improve his coo to surpass mihawk eos.
 

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The weird thing about that is
if a black blade is a tell sign of a great degree of armament which it seems to be.
mihawk has one as well as a very solid control of coo as his name seems to suggest. it would seem he is more of a "hakiman" than the fandom initially thought. it would also imply that zoro would have to improve his coo to surpass mihawk eos.
Mihawk is indeed the original Haki man, a guy who goes solo in a world where being alone is to court death or absorption into a larger crew. I personally believe Mihawk, like Ray and probably Zoro has COC but doesn’t use it because A) he lost his ambition and now views it as empty and B) he’s not interested in conquering anything (similar to Ray). If strength in OP worked like video game stat points, Mihawk would have invested almost all of his into COA and COO, being one of the only top tiers to do so. Vivre Card seems to imply that around Vista level, sword skill plateaus and there’s little room to improve meaning that Mihawk/Zoro can specialise exclusively in the combat Haki stats.

To continue with the stat points example, I think Zoro has currently overinvested into COA, allowing him to blacken a blade but also meaning that he has to improve his skill (fire cutting etc), agility and COO. TLDR: Zoro is likely an extreme specialist while Mihawk is more well balanced and Zoro’s post Wano challenges will be to round out his skill set and accumulate combat experience.
 
Imo, forging a black blade is a testament of one's mastery over CoA. Only those who reach the absolute pinnacle of CoA mastery can do it. And for Zoro to do it in Wano is very plausible, considering Enma's lust for Haki, with Zoro seems to be has a great affinity for CoA. After all Zoro already did unlock the "advanced" version of CoA long back then in Alabasta. Added to that, the fact that he spent 2 years to train with Mihawk (who's one of if not the best at CoA mastery), and that the first thing Mihawk teach Zoro is CoA. And not only the basic idea like what Rayleigh teach Luffy, but he was trained to make a hardening. Which is why until this point of story, no one has been able to broke Zoro's CoA or even prove to be a challenge/hindrance to it. While Luffy on the other hand has had his CoA broken by enemies for numerous times. So, for Zoro to reach the pinnacle of CoA mastery thus forging a black blade in Wano is very possible.
 
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